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1. Accepted part time up to 40 hrs a week when desparate after 7 months. Not on unemployment but holding our own.
2. Pay is LOW like really LOW. Barely covers utilities, food, car insurance,phone, minimal Internet, gas, and meds
3. Job training has been intense for this. Can't believe how little the job pays for what must be learned.
4. About a week of training left and at the end really learning OJT will be not so entertaining.
5. Tough customers to sometimes deal with.
6. Routinely scheduled to work 6 days per week to approach 40 hours. Sometimes from start time of 5 am. Micromanaged to the the max.
7. WOULD YOU START LOOKING NOW? One of my fellow trainees are thinking about it also.
Any opinions appreciated..... Getting exhausted with this after barely 6 weeks.
 

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what the heck job are you training for?
Much as I hate to admit this after having a successful career, this is a customer service job. Yes.... I was getting desparate to find anything as the job market is tough. Part of the training has been classroom and part OJT but not enough of that. Few of us feel very prepared and one that I know of may move one. One quit early on. The hours spread out over 6 days wears you out.
I have a small retirement (early semi retirement) that covers house, car and medical insurance.... Thank the Lord.
I think I should begin a new job hunt given the stress, crappy hours and the pay is embarrassingly low with 38 years work exp including 8 years as a veteran. My group seems unemployable and the stats say that most are under employed when work is found.
My work schedule is driving me and my wife nuts.
 

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Until I retired I worked a full time job and had one or two businesses that kept me busy 7 days a week. I would love to have kicked back to a 40 hour week.

While you are earning keeping looking out for a better job and keeping your eye out for a unfullfilled need to start your own side business.

Think positive and keep your eyes open for new oppurtunities. Sorry to say that customers are sometimes a big pain in the butt but they keep the cash flowing.

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When the American corporate and employment environment started to change in the mid-1980's (more freelancers and contract employees being hired) my work search and networking became full-time, even though I HAD a full-time job.

That should be everyone's practice now and going forward. It will only get worse. We are widgets in the machine now, so we must protect ourselves by become free agents who can leave a job on short notice. The employers do it to us, so they must learn that we can and will do it to them as well.

1. Accepted part time up to 40 hrs a week when desparate after 7 months. Not on unemployment but holding our own.
2. Pay is LOW like really LOW. Barely covers utilities, food, car insurance,phone, minimal Internet, gas, and meds
3. Job training has been intense for this. Can't believe how little the job pays for what must be learned.
4. About a week of training left and at the end really learning OJT will be not so entertaining.
5. Tough customers to sometimes deal with.
6. Routinely scheduled to work 6 days per week to approach 40 hours. Sometimes from start time of 5 am. Micromanaged to the the max.
7. WOULD YOU START LOOKING NOW? One of my fellow trainees are thinking about it also.
Any opinions appreciated..... Getting exhausted with this after barely 6 weeks.
 

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Pixelguy quote "That should be everyone's practice now and going forward. It will only get worse. We are widgets in the machine now, so we must protect ourselves by become free agents who can leave a job on short notice. The employers do it to us, so they must learn that we can and will do it to them as well."

Amen....well said and my thoughts exactly.
 

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Right now employers are having a heyday. People are begging for work who would never have entered their doors two years ago. They are getting top notch people for minimum wage and treating them like crap in the process.

this is a job you would not even have applied for in the past, now you are wondering if you should move to something better?

If you can not make this decision by yourself in about 2 seconds you are right where you need to be. They have already broken you.
 

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Customer service/retail jobs are the most widespread, but they do tend to make you work a lot more for the pay. The "customer service" bit adds an extra stress factor depending on your industry, i.e. dealing with waves of customers during rush hour, or getting the "crappy shift" every so often.

I do IT support work at a datacenter, and since we are a 24/7 support shop the schedule is the big killer for us. IT support is often called a "gray collar job" because the technical prowess you need is higher than in a lot of other industries, but the pay can still be surprisingly low for the skillset you need.

It's no secret at my current workplace that the pay the NOC technicians get is quite low considering what you need to know to do the job. However, the experience you get here has its own value that makes you more marketable later.

I'd say if you are in retail or low-pay customer service, always keep looking. Low pay customer service jobs are generally the first cut when economic conditions worsen.
 
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any job is better than none. Hethedad and I do hard physical labor every day in our very late 50's in a job just over minimum wage and with no benefits. He is looking for something else, but of course pickings are slim to none. Nothing wrong with looking while pulling down whatever $$ you can. Many of us would jump at the chance for a job like the one you describe. I would rather work 2 jobs if I could get them than not pay my bills. Did that for many years. Hang in there. It will feel better once you get used to the routine. Any new job is stressful and if you are not used to the hours, you will get used to them. You can and will develop new ways to adapt.
Look at it as adaptiveness training for SHTF! Good luck to you and keep us posted. I'd like to hear from you again in about 2 months!
 

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For many years till i retired i worked 60 hour plus weeks usually 7 days a week......Do the best you can....Hang in there...
Thanks for thoughts. My previous career nearly killed me creating heart trouble. Cardiologist x 2 said it was the job. I need to find something easier on me if I can find something else. No job...no amount of money is worth dying for. I like being above ground.

Something to consider. My Dad was retired 13 days and passed away.
 

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Absolutely look for another job. Employers get away with what ever they can. If they mistreat good people like yourself, they have to settle for substandard people OR face a turnover problem. High turnover in a job that requires extensive training gets expensive and they ultimately have to pay better to get and keep good employees. I have been out of work since November. We are paying the bills, so I may just retire early. No point shoveling coal in a socialist country, when there are far too many riding the train.
 

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If I were you I would keep the job that you have, but keep looking. I will also be honest with you. As a business owner myself I don't really like hiring people that are older then I am. I tend to have a harder time with older people because they are extremely hard to retrain. They seem to be set in there ways and do not adapt well. They also generally have problems with what the pay is. I understand you made a lot more at your old job, but you have to realize that with the way the economy is just be happy you have a job.
 
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