[hotwater]

There was a great drought in the country and two men who were farmers wanted to plant a crop, but only one man prepared his fields.
Both farmers wished for rain, but only one man did something about it.
Which man was prepared the most.

You are not equipped to support 10 or more people with 5 acres.
The robbers and squatters will clean you out almost as fast as your family would.
Screw em - if they cannot put anything into the pot, then they don't deserve to be there.
Anyone foolish enough to think that it is cruel not to take on dead weight when you are drowning is not the type of person / people that I would want to prep with.
Each time you add two people you divide your resources by 4.
What was 1 years worth of food for 2 people has now become less then 6 months worth for 4 and less then 3 months worth for 6.
Because the other people has nothing invested into this - the first couple of months a lot of the food you prepare will be wasted. People will complain - is this all you have, and fighting will take place.. You even have to consider animals - since many of them would probably bring along their family pet - which would be an additional burden to your already over stressed resources.
I think prepping has a lot more to do with survival then it does just squatting in a hole someplace and hoping that the bad times will just blow over...

tell them to get their own place to squat!

 

[hotwater]

I tell no one that I am a prepper. All my family knows is that I have a lot of food stored in the cellar and I own a lot of guns and I have a lot of tools and I have a lot of antenna's in the air at my house. The truck is always full of gasoline. The fuel cans in the shed are always full. The generator has been serviced and maintained. There is welding equipment and lot's of junk piles and donor vehicles in the yard. I have certain clothes that I wear and certain clothes that are put away for emergencies and I can stay on my own for extended periods of time with no other human interaction. My needs are very basic and I can support myself for now with my hunting and fishing and woodsman skills.

Most people won't come for very long to hang out because I ask them how they are going to prepare for the future or I put them to work doing something and they usually leave because they don't want to work. You don't work, you don't eat! I couldn't put up with leeches - just living off all my hard work - after they laughed at me when I was investing my money for the future, while they were going out to eat in fancy restaurants, living in nice houses, driving new cars, wasting their money on booze and wild women and acting like big shots and putting me down. If I deemed someone worthy, I would let them stay as long as they worked, but I wouldn't let in people just because they had no place to go.. Most people would starve or succumb to the pressures of the outside world in short order because they couldn't live without their social media or cell phones anyways.

 

[hotwater]

I'm thinking that from the logistics point of view that no one on this forum is thinking about the long run. Everyone makes it sound like it would just be a sleep over.

Before any NASA journey, the engineers would first have to decide upon which types of food to take and how much sewage they would have to deal with.

Lets say your house was designed for 4 people and you invite 20.
Within a couple of weeks, the septic tank would be full and the well water would be dry and you would be in worse shape then if you did not prepare at all.
You have to decide how much of everything to put away and how much to use and what impact it will have on your environment

A person would need to contribute 1.5 times as much as what they demand.
If it takes 1 cord of wood to heat the house per a week, then a 5 acre lot would be devoid of trees in about 2 winters. That is if there was timber on the property. Pioneers sometimes ate 2 or 3 lbs of meat per a day!
The question now has to be how much vegetables can you grow and what do you do in the winter when nothing grows?

No one seems to be thinking long term here.