Wayne is not the only problem child. His true believers need to go also. If the NY court finds him and two or three others guilty and they serve jail time, the rest may clean up their act.

Legal fees and years of skimming, outright robbery and mismanagement have bankrupted the association. Programs and services have been gutted. Membership is declining. It is very likely the NRA may lose its tax-exempt status and what NY starts the IRS will finish.

I expect the court will appoint a receiver to manage the association's remaining assets and that the Fairfax HQ and Raton, NM property will be sold to pay substantial fines and to offset the other accumulated debts.

 

The only way the NRA gets better is if the Fudds resign, or get voted out. Or, if they go against their nature, and stand up for the 2nd as it was written and intended, rather than compromising all the time.

 

You're right, and the best way to effect change there is from the membership. I think there has been a steady attempt to educate the older membership, who joined for trapshooting and hunting. And the membership has definitely been changing over the last 20 years or so. You see things in the magazines you would have never seen in the past.

Again, I think there is an opportunity to really change the NRA.

 

Hint:

Just look at Every gun control law passed on the Fed level since the 1920's and admit who you see was behind them all...... The NRA has Always been a Gun Control Org.


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Not only did the NRA support gun control for much of the 20th century, its leadership in fact lobbied for and co-authored gun control legislation.

When the NRA was founded by two Union Civil War veterans and a former New York Times reporter in 1871,


In the 1920s, the National Revolver Association, the arm of the NRA responsible for handgun training, proposed regulations later adopted by nine states, requiring a permit to carry a concealed weapon, five years additional prison time if the gun was used in a crime, a ban on gun sales to non-citizens, a one day waiting period between the purchase and receipt of a gun, and that records of gun sales be made available to police.

The 1930s crime spree of the Prohibition era, which still summons images of outlaws outfitted with machine guns, prompted President Franklin Roosevelt to make gun control a feature of the New Deal. The NRA assisted Roosevelt in drafting the 1934 National Firearms Act and the 1938 Gun Control Act, the first federal gun control laws.

LINK

Not just the Fed level either, when Texas was wanting to make Open Carry the law of the land for everyone who could own a gun, the NRA local- made sure it would only apply to current Concealed License holders- too bad for your sister or someone who needed to be able to legally carry "today" but were without a permit.

Of course this is only a small sample.

 

As long as the leadership is making millions plus benefits then I see them only as a money grabbing bunch. Have them paid between $250-500k a year with just health benefits and no kickbacks or “personal donations” allowed and I bet it would get better quicker.

 

I got rid of them 30 years ago and regret everything I ever donated.

They're one of the worst things for gun owners, IMO.

They've sold out our rights, every, single, time.

It troubles me that most gun owners support them.

I reckon it shows the ignorance of the sheep, and the state of our society.

 

I got rid of them 30 years ago and regret everything I ever donated.

They're one of the worst things for gun owners, IMO.

They've sold out our rights, every, single, time.

It troubles me that most gun owners support them.

I reckon it shows the ignorance of the sheep, and the state of our society.

They have enough money that they could stay in business, definitely a business now, forever based on interest alone.

 

Paraphrasing Ilhan Omar; "it's all about the Benjamins baby".

 

And the point really is what exactly?

My point is that you're doing those liberal gun control fanatics a favor when you badmouth the NRA.

The "gun control crowd" are stupid and clueless about the NRA?

They hate the NRA and they love to see gun rights enthusiasts arguing among each other. That being the case it would be rather obvious that they love it when gun rights enthusiasts chewing out the NRA.

Frankly I couldn't care less what "they think" they're an enemy of our COTUS and country.

And you don't want to make their day, do you?

 

Does anyone care if they get better....???? My dad was a lifetime member and I quite paying my annual about 6 years ago. Done with them. I will only stand on my constitutional rights and if those dissolve... I will continue to stand for my God given rights.

 

Does anyone care if they get better....????

I do, and you should too.

Again, the NRA isn't just a political lobbying group, they are involved with many other facets of firearms, many of them vital towards affecting public perception of guns. Who is going to pick all that up if the NRA goes away? Winning 2A court cases isn't going to do us much good if there's a constitutional amendment changing it, because the public thinks it's a good thing to do.

Your mindset is reminiscent of those who say they won't buy a Ruger firearm, based on it's long dead founder's policies, even if they've all been reversed.

 

They have two big gun right orgs in Canada and all they do is screw around and spend members dues on useless stuff and fight with each other. You folks have a 2nd Amendment and the government still screws you over so you see how hard it is to do anything up here.

 

My point is that you're doing those liberal gun control fanatics a favor when you badmouth the NRA.


They hate the NRA and they love to see gun rights enthusiasts arguing among each other. That being the case it would be rather obvious that they love it when gun rights enthusiasts chewing out the NRA.


And you don't want to make their day, do you?

No one needs to "badmouth" the NRA- calling it exactly as it is = is enough.

gun rights enthusiasts

The NRA is and always has been a Gun CONTROL ORG.
They don't even try to deny it but embrace that fact....

why organizations such as Everytown always badmouth the NRA and why politicians who want to do nothing more than infringe on our 2A rights are so proud of the F grades they get from the NRA.

Pure and simple ignorance.

Facts are facts and they matter to many, many folks who actually care about the illegality of "gun control"

See post #4 - check for yourself.

 

The NRA isn't, and hasn't, been perfect, or even close. They've wasted money and they compromise too much, but they're NOT a gun control organization. That's simply ludicrous. They are the largest lobbying group for gun rights.

I'm a life member, and have been for years, so I don't pay annual dues, and haven't donated to them in years. To be honest, if I wasn't a life member, I don't know that I would be a member paying annual dues with where the organization is at right now. I would actually love if GOA grew to be the largest gun rights organization and took the place of the NRA, as I feel they are a better supporter of gun rights with less compromises.

 

The NRA isn't, and hasn't, been perfect, or even close. They've wasted money and they compromise too much, but they're NOT a gun control organization.

They have publicly admitted it long ago, nothing "ludicrous" about it at all- that is a fact and easy enough to find out IF you are interested in the truth.

But by all means please try to explain WHY they would help draft the the 1934 National Firearms Act and the 1938 Gun Control Act, the first federal gun control laws.

Unless of course they ARE a gun control Org just as former Presidents of NRA have bragged about btw.

Look at where those two Unconstitutional "laws" have gotten gun rights; and be honest about that.

But wait that is "not all" either:

Look at all the more recent "laws" that violate the 2nd Amendment and see how many NRA actually endorsed- didn't fight .

IF the NRA isn't a gun control org. they have a funny way of proving it.

Myself, I'll take the former president's word that they have always been a gun control org.

 

Stakeholders have to hold the NRA accountable for the damage they've done to 2nd Amendment rights. Compromise of a God given right is a violation of God's laws that protect God's creation. There is no higher law and no bigger transgression against God.
This is why "the right to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed".

 

Stakeholders have to hold the NRA accountable for the damage they've done to 2nd Amendment rights. Compromise of a God given right is a violation of God's laws that protect God's creation. There is no higher law and no bigger transgression against God.
This is why "the right to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed".

So are you saying that doing nothing is a better alternative than supporting the NRA? That what the NRA does for the 2A and for gun rights is worse than nothing?

 

"The enemy of my enemy is my friend". Guys, this is a fight to the finish, if not for us it certainly is for them. They want total control of us. Keep this silly crap up and they will win this and you all lose your rights. They see no differences among us, not one ray of sunlight.

If you insist on pursuing this, load up every mag you have and start running movement drills every single day. Thats where that choice ends. Those greedy idiots need to go. Thats our mission.

 

The NRA stands little chance of change unless the membership comes together to choose a direction , puts people in charge who understand that direction and hold the accountable for results.

 

I will agree to disagree. 😉

I won't. Because when you said this:

They've sold out our rights, every, single, time.

You are wrong.

Disagree with them all you want on how they've handled particular things, I do too. But the fact is, the NRA has been successful at opposing a myriad of gun control measures around the country, many before they even got off the ground, without compromising anything. If you had worked on several of them, like I did, you'd know that. They were a huge reason, (30+ million worth), for Trump winning the 2016 election, and both Trump and Hillary said so. The work they do every day with gun clubs, ranges, their women's outreach programs, kids shooting programs, training almost every CCW and LE instructor, TV and radio shows, etc., have gotten a positive message about guns through to millions, that wouldn't have heard anything but left wing media's version. Ask the average person who FPC, SAF, or GOA is, and they've likely never heard of them. I belong and donate to all three of those too, by the way, and all three are doing good work.

Here we have a chance for the NRA to get on a course that many of us want them too, and keep doing all the other "fudd" things that the red meat 2A guys don't think is important to the cause. But like I said previously, the mindset of "boycott Ruger because what Bill did" more than 20 years after he went into the ground and the current management reversed his policies and more, is what keeps the gun folks from being effective as they could be.

We need all segments of gun folks to win this fight for good. Including your Great Uncle Bob the trapshooter. Look at the NRA magazine today, and issues from 30 years ago. The amount of education they've been doing to win hearts and minds of seniors, who mostly don't own AR's, is staggering. Because we need their votes, and donations too. And while the crying caricature meme's of Gavin Newsome or Joe Biden that FPC puts on Instagram, may fire up the millennials, we need "fudd" campaigns as well.

When I saw that Lapierre was out, I figured it would just be a bash fest, here and on other gun boards, instead of an opportunity to get involved and get them on course. That's a shame. Because the more devious of the left, like Newsome, realize they probably can't win the 2A battle in the current courts. Which is why they talk about stacking the courts, or a new constitutional amendment neutering the 2nd amendment.

 

Ok.

I won't. Because when you said this:



You are wrong.

Disagree with them all you want on how they've handled particular things, I do too. But the fact is, the NRA has been successful at opposing a myriad of gun control measures around the country, many before they even got off the ground, without compromising anything. If you had worked on several of them, like I did, you'd know that. They were a huge reason, (30+ million worth), for Trump winning the 2016 election, and both Trump and Hillary said so. The work they do every day with gun clubs, ranges, their women's outreach programs, kids shooting programs, training almost every CCW and LE instructor, TV and radio shows, etc., have gotten a positive message about guns through to millions, that wouldn't have heard anything but left wing media's version. Ask the average person who FPC, SAF, or GOA is, and they've likely never heard of them. I belong and donate to all three of those too, by the way, and all three are doing good work.

Here we have a chance for the NRA to get on a course that many of us want them too, and keep doing all the other "fudd" things that the red meat 2A guys don't think is important to the cause. But like I said previously, the mindset of "boycott Ruger because what Bill did" more than 20 years after he went into the ground and the current management reversed his policies and more, is what keeps the gun folks from being effective as they could be.

We need all segments of gun folks to win this fight for good. Including your Great Uncle Bob the trapshooter. Look at the NRA magazine today, and issues from 30 years ago. The amount of education they've been doing to win hearts and minds of seniors, who mostly don't own AR's, is staggering. Because we need their votes, and donations too. And while the crying caricature meme's of Gavin Newsome or Joe Biden that FPC puts on Instagram, may fire up the millennials, we need "fudd" campaigns as well.

When I saw that Lapierre was out, I figured it would just be a bash fest, here and on other gun boards, instead of an opportunity to get involved and get them on course. That's a shame. Because the more devious of the left, like Newsome, realize they probably can't win the 2A battle in the current courts. Which is why they talk about stacking the courts, or a new constitutional amendment neutering the 2nd amendment.

OK, then I disagree with your opinion.

The fact is, the NRA has caved, or capitulated to, every major infringement on the Second Ammendment. Period.

1934 GCA, 1968 GCA, Reagan bans, Clinton's bans, etc, etc, ad nauseum.

Not trying to argue, but put your feelings aside for a minute and go back and see what they've done for/to us.

Have a good evening.

 

The NRA is really good at running "interference" for GOA. The globalists, fascists, and libs are so focused on using the NRA as a political punching bag that GOA runs down the field and scores legal "touchdown" after "touchdown" without substantial resistance.
I do give Marion Hammer (RIP) of the NRA admiration for speaking in public meetings for constitutional carry here in Florida. Several from GOA were there as well.

 

There have been a few gun bills in AZ that the NRA wasn't behind until it was clear they were going to pass and be signed into law. Care to guess if they took credit?

 

Cool, lets hope this is the demise of the NRA and all the programs they administer.

Good riddance.

 

The NRA has been making this bed for many years. I was a slow learner and it took a while for me to lose faith. They need to compete in the legal world of the 2A until they make it rain with some lawsuits to defend the current scourge of anti-gun legislation, pro bono . They may never recover. I can live with it. I am a life member and get a calendar and a 10 month magazine subscription. I feel betrayed.

Now, I am a GOA member and have donated directly to the Second Amendment Foundation. No more money for the NRA. I bought in and the NRA sold out.

I have been known to hold a grudge, too.

****, I even own an NRA polo shirt.

 

The NRA has helped draft and been heavily involved in both the 1934 and 1986 gun bills. I don't like that, but I'm also not going to get stuck on what they did many years ago, their more recent sins are more relevant to me. Supporting further gun control to make people criminals is criminal itself and should be treated as such.

I haven't supported them since their bump stock issues during 2017 See: https://www.npr.org/2017/10/05/5558...555894008/nra-backs-regulation-of-bump-stocks-as-some-republicans-support-a-ban

I had been fairly ignorant on their past before that, but I'll sum it up as saying I wasn't very happy with what I found in their past involvement with most all gun control measures. In many ways an group who tries to convince you they're a friend but isn't is worse than an group who tells you they don't agree with you.

I think money is better spend giving to the GOA: GOA | The only no compromise gun lobby in Washington

 

The NRA has helped draft and been heavily involved in both the 1934 and 1986 gun bills. I don't like that, but I'm also not going to get stuck on what they did many years ago, their more recent sins are more relevant to me. Supporting further gun control to make people criminals is criminal itself and should be treated as such.

I haven't supported them since their bump stock issues during 2017 See: https://www.npr.org/2017/10/05/5558...555894008/nra-backs-regulation-of-bump-stocks-as-some-republicans-support-a-ban

I had been fairly ignorant on their past before that, but I'll sum it up as saying I wasn't very happy with what I found in their past involvement with most all gun control measures. In many ways an group who tries to convince you they're a friend but isn't is worse than an group who tells you they don't agree with you.

I think money is better spend giving to the GOA: GOA | The only no compromise gun lobby in Washington

I'll wade in on this. Please hear me out.

The NRA is in Washington DC. They get invited to all the cocktail parties. They have those closed door meetings. That puts them in the position to play backroom politics, or chicken, in an attempt to stop various legislation. I believe they rolled the dice wrong on that one, but I think I know what they were thinking. After the Vegas shooting, the antigunners were out for blood. I think when the NRA said the ATF should make a determination on whether bump stocks were a "machine gun", they did it thinking ATF would make the same determination they had before, that they weren't. And that letting the focus be on the stocks, would take the heat off the very real possibility of a more sweeping legislation. Like back in 1993, that got us the AWB, over a much less horrific shooting.

Here, as long as we're quoting leftist antigun press for our info on the NRA, lets see what CNN got out of it.

The NRA’s strategic ploy on bump stocks

"The NRA, as has been revealed through its many legislative victories on gun matters over the years, is not dumb. And the group’s decision to be for further regulation of bump stocks is clearly a strategic move aimed at avoiding any more sweeping or comprehensive attempts at gun control.

Maybe the NRA is also motivated by genuine belief that bump stocks are a bad thing and need to be more regulated. But an organization as politically aware of itself as the NRA is never not keeping an eye on its politics.

Consider first that the NRA is calling on the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms (ATF) to handle the bump stock issue. Why does this matter? Because if ATF takes on the issue, it means that Congress doesn’t.

Congress is filled with 535 members – each of whom has ideas and strategies about how to accomplish their goals related to guns. Putting any sort of legislative proposal before Congress – even one with a very limited initial scope like further regulating bump stocks – poses a major risk for the NRA and other major players in the gun lobby.

It’s the equivalent of opening Pandora’s box – not just in terms of how the legislation might wind up looking but also in terms of public attention being paid to gun laws.

So even as Rep. Carlos Curbelo, a Florida Republican, gears up to introduce bump stock legislation, the NRA swoops in and says essentially: “Isn’t this better handled by ATF?” Several senior GOP sources tell CNN’s Phil Mattingly that the ATF option is the preferred route for leadership in both chambers right now.

Which brings me to the second major reason why the NRA proactively came out in favor of ATF-driven regulations on bump stocks: It allows for a simple – and quick answer to the horrors of the Las Vegas shooting without endangering any of the key elements of what the NRA and its supporters hold dear."

Or the Guardian:

Did we all just get played by the NRA??

"Rather than endorsing a law banning the devices, as Democratic gun control advocates proposed, the NRA said in its statement on Thursday that it was asking the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives (ATF), which had repeatedly ruled that bump stocks did not fall under the regulation of federal firearms statutes, to review its decision.

This is a “pretty small giveback” but “may go a long way to placating people who are demanding action after Las Vegas,” said Robert Spitzer, a gun politics expert at State University of New York at Cortland."

So they played old school politics and lost...or won, depending on how you look at it. I get why folks are angry about it. But to say the NRA is really against bumpstocks would not fit with their actions on the matter since then. Where they have been working to get the ATF to reverse their decision, and filing briefs in the lawsuits.

"No compromise" sounds pretty good in the ads from competing 2A groups, (which I belong to). But what if congress had passed another AWB law in the wake of the Vegas shooting, instead of ATF making an administrative ruling, that is much easier to attack? Does everybody remember we were stuck with that last one, for 10 years? The one that both sides of the house gave us?

Wayne's departure may open the door to the NRA not playing backroom politics, since he was the face of it. Whether we'll be happy with the results if it does, would remain to be seen. There's lots of times that legislation never got to the floor after those backroom meetings, and judicious cash being spread around.

I'm on board with no compromise, even the dodge and fake kind. But I do worry.

 

Unless the entire BOD goes, along with some in other positions go as well......no it will not change. It is a little like Washington. Do you think it will really be better with a change at the top.

 

The NRA is in Washington DC. They get invited to all the cocktail parties. They have those closed door meetings. That puts them in the position to play backroom politics, or chicken, in an attempt to stop various legislation.

Maybe. Or maybe they're fine with "reasonable restrictions" and plan to whittle away whats left of the 2A in the coming years systematically. Maybe it's even less complicated and they just don't care what happens as long as the money keeps flowing in. My bet is more along those lines.

After the Vegas shooting, the antigunners were out for blood

Consider first that the NRA is calling on the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms (ATF) to handle the bump stock issue. Why does this matter? Because if ATF takes on the issue, it means that Congress doesn’t.

You say that like it was some kind of impending problem. 2016 turned the house and senate red and trump was in office. If I can't count on the right to support gun rights I'm voting for someone who does. Gun control is not popular on the right.

It’s the equivalent of opening Pandora’s box – not just in terms of how the legislation might wind up looking but also in terms of public attention being paid to gun laws.

So even as Rep. Carlos Curbelo, a Florida Republican, gears up to introduce bump stock legislation, the NRA swoops in and says essentially: “Isn’t this better handled by ATF?” Several senior GOP sources tell CNN’s Phil Mattingly that the ATF option is the preferred route for leadership in both chambers right now.

The public has a very short memory and everyone in politics knows that. Next week some new thing will come along.

Having the ATF "handle" this is actually a really big problem. Now there's legal president set that the ATF can make laws based on the speed at which a gun fires. Today that means bump stocks, next week that means binary triggers, and next month that means a semi auto ban "because legally they're a machine gun". And magically semi auto and full auto are then redefined to mean any firearm clambering the next round with energy from the previous round. All without any act of congress.

"No compromise" sounds pretty good in the ads from competing 2A groups, (which I belong to). But what if congress had passed another AWB law in the wake of the Vegas shooting, instead of ATF making an administrative ruling, that is much easier to attack? Does everybody remember we were stuck with that last one, for 10 years? The one that both sides of the house gave us?

Giving up everything little by little for nothing isn't winning. We had already fought, and WON the battle for bump stocks with the ATF. We can not keep doing what we're doing now, which is giving away little bits of rights every few years. The easy targets are all used up. Up next is likely ammo regulates similar to CA, or an full blown AWB. Look at all the states already with mag limits. Another AWB will likely includ all semi autos, mainly thanks to the bump stock precedence. Saying well it could have been worse isn't enough. The court cases aren't really about bump stocks. They're about the ability to possess anything other than single shots.

I believe the alternative case here was bills introduced and dead in the senate and house. If I'm wrong on that and by some miracle an AWB originated from, and got through an R majority senate and house, and then got signed by an R president that's a different problem much bigger than the NRA. If that was really the alternative to a bump stock ban pour a few stiff drinks, put on your favorite hawaiian friday shirt and let's get the party started.

This meme sums it up for me

Will the NRA get better? I don't know, but until they adopt a 100% no new laws stance I'm not giving them any more money. Certainly not when there are other better options to fund. I worry too, but giving up something every time someone asks is a 100% for sure way to lose the fight long term. At least make pay the costs of the fight instead of just caving.

 

Maybe. Or maybe they're fine with "reasonable restrictions" and plan to whittle away whats left of the 2A in the coming years systematically. Maybe it's even less complicated and they just don't care what happens as long as the money keeps flowing in. My bet is more along those lines.




You say that like it was some kind of impending problem. 2016 turned the house and senate red and trump was in office. If I can't count on the right to support gun rights I'm voting for someone who does. Gun control is not popular on the right.




The public has a very short memory and everyone in politics knows that. Next week some new thing will come along.

Having the ATF "handle" this is actually a really big problem. Now there's legal president set that the ATF can make laws based on the speed at which a gun fires. Today that means bump stocks, next week that means binary triggers, and next month that means a semi auto ban "because legally they're a machine gun". And magically semi auto and full auto are then redefined to mean any firearm clambering the next round with energy from the previous round. All without any act of congress.




Giving up everything little by little for nothing isn't winning. We had already fought, and WON the battle for bump stocks with the ATF. We can not keep doing what we're doing now, which is giving away little bits of rights every few years. The easy targets are all used up. Up next is likely ammo regulates similar to CA, or an full blown AWB. Look at all the states already with mag limits. Another AWB will likely includ all semi autos, mainly thanks to the bump stock precedence. Saying well it could have been worse isn't enough. The court cases aren't really about bump stocks. They're about the ability to possess anything other than single shots.

I believe the alternative case here was bills introduced and dead in the senate and house. If I'm wrong on that and by some miracle an AWB originated from, and got through an R majority senate and house, and then got signed by an R president that's a different problem much bigger than the NRA. If that was really the alternative to a bump stock ban pour a few stiff drinks, put on your favorite hawaiian friday shirt and let's get the party started.

This meme sums it up for me

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Will the NRA get better? I don't know, but until they adopt a 100% no new laws stance I'm not giving them any more money. Certainly not when there are other better options to fund. I worry too, but giving up something every time someone asks is a 100% for sure way to lose the fight long term. At least make pay the costs of the fight instead of just caving.

Citizens should have access to any kind of gun the police and military have access to. That's what the 2A is all about. Back when the 2A was ratified along with the rest of the BOR muskets and other single shot muzzle loading guns were what the police and military used. Today it's semi automatics and full automatics that the police and military use. As such, citizens should have access to them too.

 

Maybe. Or maybe they're fine with "reasonable restrictions" and plan to whittle away whats left of the 2A in the coming years systematically. Maybe it's even less complicated and they just don't care what happens as long as the money keeps flowing in. My bet is more along those lines.

Yeah, maybe they're actually being run by whoever's been flying those Tic Tac things the Navy was chasing.

You say that like it was some kind of impending problem. 2016 turned the house and senate red and trump was in office. If I can't count on the right to support gun rights I'm voting for someone who does. Gun control is not popular on the right.

You know, gun folks are very optimistic. In the 45+ years I've been active in 2A, there's never been a piece of gun control passed, that wasn't preceded by many guys telling me, "there's no way that's gonna pass". They said that about the first AWB, just before the Senate passed it 96 to 4, with just two Republicans and two Democrats voting No. In the house, 46 Republicans voted Yes, while 64 Democrats actually voted No. The Republicans pushed it over the edge. With the Vegas shooting, I think a bunch of Republicans would have folded again in a vote.

It's hilarious how you demonize the NRA, and think Trump would have been our savior......... Were you around while he was president? You think it was unlikely that any gun control would have been passed? Trump wanted a bump stock law passed, (not just a ruling). The NRA helped talk him out of it.

Here, give a listen to what Trump thought at the time, and hear him praise the justice department's ruling on those terrifying bump stocks:

Trump is an East Coast elitist, who is "pro gun" until it negatively affects his personal position, just like most politicians. His "pro gun" stance was engineered for his campaign.

Again, I'm on board with doing the no compromise plan. But do I think the NRA's deflection of another gun control package being passed for a bump stock ruling, (that they've been working to undue since), was a completely stupid idea? No. I think it was a political tactic, that there was at least some justification for.

 

Still waiting on my hat from NRA for joining,30 years ago.

 

Give me your address, I'll send you one of mine......

 

NRA should get back to its roots. Save the 2A fights to the professionals