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Can someone tell me why a crime involving whites against blacks is called a hate crime or racially motivated but when it is blacks against whites it is just a crime.

http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/D/DRAGGING_DEATH?SITE=INLAF&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT

The above link is of a story that happen in Sept. 16 and the lead sentence reads: An East Texas grand jury indicted two white men Thursday in the racially charged hit-and-run death of a black man who was dragged beneath a pickup truck.

Was the reference "two white men" actually needed in this story? I mean you can plainly see the two guys are white in the mug shots. It says the crime was not racially motivated because the men had been friends for 10 years but that statement angered the family of the slain man. I guess they wanted it to be a hate crime or something.... I wouldn't have to do much searching to find all kinds of so called "hate" crimes.

But I wonder what the following news article's highlight? They don't seem to be labeled "hate crimes". So, what is it?

*NOTE* If you have a weak stomach you may not want to read the following story link. Please take warning, it isn't for the faint of heart because the deaths are described in detail.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murder_of_Channon_Christian_and_Christopher_Newsom

The above murder was never considered a hate crime and I didn't see Mr. Al Sharpton or the Rev. Jesse Jackson in Knoxville, TN marching around or protesting. It got very little attention on national media and you hardly heard anything about it. Nothing like the Jena Six got let me tell you that.

I don't mean to offend anyone, and if I do I apologize. It is I just get sick and tired of every time a homicide or some other crime takes place which involves whites on blacks it is a hate crime or racially motivated. But when the shoe is on the other foot, it is just a mere homicide.

So can someone tell me what makes up a hate crime and why all of them of white vs. black has to be racially motivated all the time? I would really like to know.
 

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What they have begun to call black on white crime is a "bias crime".

White people = hate crime
Black people = bias crime

It's our PC society and the media at work in an attempt to put black crime against whites in a "better" light (as if theres a difference).
Liberal whites feel better when they can pretend that black racism doesent exist and simply are able to rename "hate" and simply call it "bias".
It just sounds so much nicer to people to think that they became victims because of the perpertrator's "personal preferences" rather than facing the idea that their head got bashed in because the perp hates them because of their color.
 

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In our modern "politically correct" society The Caucasian male is the epitomy of all evil, the "blue-eyed white devil"...We are responsible for all the ills of the entire world according to our non-white brethren and our own turncoat liberal (guilty cause im white crowd)...Sadly, If it weren't for us blue-eyed white devils the world would still be in the stone age.......and yes I am proud of Northern European heritage.....................
 

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It's social conditioning. Psychological warfare on whites.

When you think of serial killers you always think of some crazy white guy with 40 dead bodies under his house. Well this video should change that perception.

 

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i got in a fight with my brothers boyfriend at a family function we where haveing he was drunk and acting stupid i told him to calm down and he threw his beer at me and then rushed me well after the paramedics came and picked him up i was arrested for a hate crime

i went to court i had the fight on video tape the only thing keeping that got me off the hook was the fact after i knocked him out i stopped hitting and i even picked him up and put him on the sofa inside that little act of kindness saved my skin

this country is to p.c anymore and it will be our down fall
 

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Can someone tell me why a crime involving whites against blacks is called a hate crime or racially motivated but when it is blacks against whites it is just a crime.
. . .because only WHITES are racist?

. . .because we are being "paid back" for all the bad things we have done? (I don't believe this, but I've heard it said)

It's plain wrong. But I really doubt it will change.
 

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. . .because only WHITES are racist?

. . .because we are being "paid back" for all the bad things we have done? (I don't believe this, but I've heard it said)

It's plain wrong. But I really doubt it will change.
I guess your right, we are all racist towards those of a different color. If we didn't vote for Obama we are racist, it we are against paying restitution we are racist and so on. If we smack a person of color around or a gay white we are carrying out a hate crime. I just don't know what the future holds for the white American's. I never hear the Indians calling foul on what happen to them. If anybody should be given something it is the Native Americans.
 

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A friend forwarded this article to me after the election. Interesting...


WHITE GUILT IS DEAD

By Tom Adkins


Look at my fellow conservatives! There they go, glumly shuffling along, depressed by the election aftermath. Not me. I’m virtually euphoric. Don’t get me wrong. I’m not thrilled with America ’s flirtation with neo socialism. But there’s a massive silver lining in those magical clouds that lofted Barak Obama to the Presidency. For today, without a shred of intellectually legitimate opposition, I can loudly proclaim to America : The Era of White Guilt is over.

This seemingly impossible event occurred because the vast majority of white Americans didn’t give a fluff about skin color, and enthusiastically pulled the voting lever for a black man. Not just any black man. A very liberal black man who spent his early career race-hustling banks, praying in a racist church for 20 years, and actively worked with America-hating domestic terrorists. Wow! Some resume! Yet they made Barak Obama their leader. Therefore, as of Nov 4th, 2008, white guilt is dead.


For over a century, the millstone of white guilt hung around our necks, retribution for slave-owning predecessors. In the 60s, American liberals began yanking that millstone while sticking a fork in the eye of black Americans, exacerbating the racial divide to extort a socialist solution. But if a black man can become President, exactly what significant barrier is left? The election of Barak Obama absolutely destroys the entire validation of liberal white guilt. The dragon is hereby slain.


So today, I’m feeling a little “uppity,” if you will. From this day forward, my tolerance level for having my skin color hustled is now exactly ZERO. And it’s time to clean house. No more Reverend Wright’s “God Damn America ,” Al Sharpton’s Church of Perpetual Victimization , or Jesse Jackson’s rainbow racism. Cornell West? You’re a fraud. Go home. All those “black studies” programs that taught kids to hate ******? You must now thank ******. And I want that on the final.


Congressional Black Caucus? Irrelevant. Maxine Waters? Shut up.. ACORN? Outlawed. Black Panthers? Go home and pet your kitty. Black separatists? Find another nation that offers better dreams. Go ahead. I’m waiting. Gangsta rappers? Start praising America . Begin with the Pledge of Allegiance. And please…no more ebonics. Speak English, and who knows where you might end up? Oh, yeah…pull up your pants. Your underwear is showing. You look stupid.

To those Eurosnots who forged entire careers hating America ? I’m still waiting for the first black French President.


And let me offer an equal opportunity whupping. I’ve always despised lazy white people. Now, I can talk smack about lazy black people. You’re poor because you quit school, did drugs, had three kids with three different fathers, and refuse to work. So when you plop your Colt 45-swilling, Oprah watchin’ butt on the couch and complain “Da Man is keepin’ me down,” allow me to inform you: Da Man is now black. You have no excuses. No more quotas. No more handouts. No more stealing my money because someone’s great-great-great-great grandparents suffered actual pain and misery at the hands of people I have no relation to, and personally revile.


It’s time to toss that massive, obsolete race-hustle machine upon the heap of the other stupid 60s ideas. Drag it over there, by wife swapping, next to dope-smoking. Plenty of room right between free love and cop-killing. Careful…don’t trip on streaking.. There ya go, don’t be gentle. Just dump it. Wash your hands. It’s filthy. In fact, Obama’s ascension created a gargantuan irony. How can you sell class envy and American unfairness when you and your black wife went to Ivy League schools, got high-paying jobs, became millionaires, bought a mansion, and got elected President? How unfair is that??? Now, Like a delicious O'Henry tale, Obama’s spread-the-wealth campaign rendered itself moot by it's own victory! America is officially a meritocracy. Obama’s election has validated American conservatism!


So, listen carefully…Wham!!! That’s the sound of my foot kicking the door shut on the era of white guilt. The rites have been muttered, the carcass lowered, dirt shoveled, and tombstone erected. White guilt is dead and buried.


However, despite my glee, there’s apparently one small, rabid bastion of American racism remaining. Black Americans voted 96% for Barak Obama. Hmmm. In a color-blind world, shouldn’t that be 50-50? Tonight, every black person should ask forgiveness for their apparent racism and prejudice towards white people. Maybe it’s time to start spreading the guilt around.


Tom Adkins is the publisher of CommonConservative.com
 

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I may be mistaken, but all crime is some form of a "hate" crime. If you speed, it is because you "hate" driving the speed limit, therefor you hate the speed limit.

I you rob someone, you obviously hate working, therefore robbing anyone, regardless of color, race, religion, etc, is a hate crime.

All crimes are hate crimes!

Am I guilty of a "Hate" crime simply because I "hate" crime?
 

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Its the brainwashing of a culture. This garbage is taught in colleges now. One of the logical fallacies being put out as a excuse is that only whites can be racist because they are the majority and have the "power". Any other race in America is a minority and therefore doesn't have the power to back up any racist motives. They are all just victims in a white mans world.

Going into this crap further is the ideal that all whites are by default racist because they grew up in the majority and don't realize how racist they are. This is actually the subject material that was being taught at a college in my state before it made the newspapers and was ended (without an apology). As far as I know the people involved in the program are all still employed at the college.

People like Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton perpetuate the most dishonest slanted views of reality and simply ooze with racism. Unfortunately their views are ones held by many others and only serve to keep the black race filled to the brim with excuses for their lack of success rather than to lift them up. You'll never hear either one come to the aid of a white person who is wronged ever, this I guarantee!

So long as people hold on to these views the whites will always be the devil and all other minorities will continue to be "victims". It doesn't work the other way around.

The media pushes this type of crap in its reporting of sensationalized news. Its unbalanced and completely dishonest but makes great headlines.
 
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One of the logical fallacies being put out as a excuse is that only whites can be racist because they are the majority and have the "power". Any other race in America is a minority and therefore doesn't have the power to back up any racist motives. They are all just victims in a white mans world.

Always wondered if all minorities were placed together would whites still yet be the majority?
 

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Ya blacks get away with all there crime. Thats why the prisons are full of white ppl.

Are you saying the judicial system refrains from convicting whites because they are just that, white? Are prisons extremely populated with blacks because they get a raw deal in our court system, and the system is unfair and unjust toward blacks?
 

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I work in the courts. there's plenty of every race represented by all these hammer-heads in court. stupidity does not know racial boundaries....
 

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From the FBI website:

Defining a Hate Crime
A hate crime is a traditional offense like murder, arson, or vandalism with an added element of bias. For the purposes of collecting statistics, Congress has defined a hate crime as a "criminal offense against a person or property motivated in whole or in part by an offender's bias against a race, religion, disability, ethnic origin or sexual orientation." Hate itself is not a crime—and the FBI is mindful of protecting freedom of speech and other civil liberties.
http://www.fbi.gov/hq/cid/civilrights/overview.htm
 
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