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#1 ·
Is she a real nurse?

There are a lot of people out there offering survival preparedness advice. Most all of them, we know their real names (Dave Canterbury, Christopher Nyerges,
Dude McLean, Thomas Elpel, Tom Brown etc..)

Then there is patriot nurse. Who is she? what is her past, what is her name, and is she someone who actually can be listened to for real medical prep advise?

My best friend, is an ER nurse with 12 years experience. The bulk of that was at one of the busiest ERs in the country; and saw more traumas during her time there, than Iraq saw at it's peak. So, when she speaks, I listen, because she is in the elite of her field.

Then there is Patriot Nurse? What Kind of nurse is she? How long has she been a nurse? Does she even practice? or just do seminars for the prepper community?
 
#3 ·
Is she a real nurse?

There are a lot of people out there offering survival preparedness advice. Most all of them, we know their real names (Dave Canterbury, Christopher Nyerges,
Dude McLean, Thomas Elpel, Tom Brown etc..)

Then there is patriot nurse. Who is she? what is her past, what is her name, and is she someone who actually can be listened to for real medical prep advise?

My best friend, is an ER nurse with 12 years experience. Some of that was at one of the busiest ERs in the country; and saw more traumas during her time there, than Iraq saw at it's peak. So, when she speaks, I listen, because she is in the elite of her field.

Then there is Patriot Nurse? What Kind of nurse is she? How long has she been a nurse? Does she even practice? or just do seminars for the prepper community?
While I personally don't know, I am sure the info is out there. Go to her website and email her for her general bio or background. I do know she is very well respected in this community.
 
#4 ·
Is she a real nurse?

There are a lot of people out there offering survival preparedness advice. Most all of them, we know their real names (Dave Canterbury, Christopher Nyerges,
Dude McLean, Thomas Elpel, Tom Brown etc..)

Then there is patriot nurse. Who is she? what is her past, what is her name, and is she someone who actually can be listened to for real medical prep advise?

My best friend, is an ER nurse with 12 years experience. Some of that was at one of the busiest ERs in the country; and saw more traumas during her time there, than Iraq saw at it's peak. So, when she speaks, I listen, because she is in the elite of her field.

Then there is Patriot Nurse? What Kind of nurse is she? How long has she been a nurse? Does she even practice? or just do seminars for the prepper community?

Whats your point? Who are you?

If you dont like the video dont watch, or better yet have "your" ER nurse watch them and comment. And maybe actually have a reason for your post.
Again, whats your point?

Im coming back and adding to this, Did you see something in her videos you thought was incorrect? The other people you named are in it for the money, this is youtube for info ( yes I know there is money to be made but not the same). I just have a hard time seeing the reason for this post without some reason?

And as far as your friend being an ER nurse ( which by the way is pointless to bring up, duh my brothers a doctor, my sisters a brain surgeon,my dads a rocket scientist) Who would you really rather take recommendations from for antibiotics? An ER nurse or a general practitioner nurse?

Again, is there a part of her videos you have a problem with?
 
#5 ·
Whats your point? Who are you?

If you dont like the video dont watch, or better yet have "your" ER nurse watch them and comment. And maybe actually have a reason for your post.
Again, whats your point?
I never said I don't watch, or like them. I watch and like Ann Barnhardt too, but I also looked her up and found she was fined like 500K for defrauding her clients not too long before she shut her brokerage down; claiming it was not ethical to be part of a corrupt system that would eventually harm and defraud said clients.

So umm, who is Patriot Nurse again?


Oh, and my friend has seen her videos...told me to come direct to her for advise, rather than watch jibberish from someone who does not appear to be a nurse at all; or is at best a midwife somewhere.

I mean no malice, just repeating what I was told, and asking some important questions here. If we are all to put our trust in things that people, who set themselves up as experts, and charge good money for seminars say, I think it is only fair we know who that person is, and what their credentials are.

I like being able to Carfax a used car before I buy it. This is no different.
 
#6 ·
Again, is there a part of her videos you have a problem with?


What is the point of the thread?

Is the whole Ann Barnhardt thing a smokescreen?

Who are you and what are your credentials to refute her? Man youtube and the internet has all kinds of crap on it ( just like this site does ). I just dont see why you would call her out specifically with no reason?

I dont know her but seem to think in at least one of her videos or somewhere she isnt hiding who she is much. I mean I know where she is from by watching .

And I believe she has disclaimers to not believe her as an end all. Hardly setting herself up as an expert. And certainly not charging good money in seminars. Maybe your problem is with Ann Barnhardt and your taking it out on patriot nurse? wtf?
 
#10 ·
Again, is there a part of her videos you have a problem with?


What is the point of the thread?

Is the whole Ann Barnhardt thing a smokescreen?

Who are you and what are your credentials to refute her? Man youtube and the internet has all kinds of crap on it ( just like this site does ). I just dont see why you would call her out specifically with no reason?

I dont know her but seem to think in at least one of her videos or somewhere she isnt hiding who she is much. I mean I know where she is from by watching .

And I believe she has disclaimers to not believe her as an end all. Hardly setting herself up as an expert. And certainly not charging good money in seminars. Maybe your problem is with Ann Barnhardt and your taking it out on patriot nurse? wtf?
Shes not?

http://thepatriotnurse.com/
 
#8 ·
Or maybe someone is just asking questions to get a better view of the picture. I don't see a problem with getting a bit more background info, especially if it can be pertinant to the topic at hand.

I agree with one of the above posters. Why not send an email. It dosn't have to be about specifics, or locations. I don't see how it would hurt anyone.
 
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#15 ·
I have not seen anything I have a problem with either..but i don't have the education to know anyway. That is why I want to know some credentials, beyond the unverified claims she has made.

Lots of people worship Ann Barnhardt too...and look what she turned out to be.
 
#20 ·
Yes I'm sorry I just edited my post to reflect that I missed the part where she was charging for her classes.

I get due diligence and all that. But like you said stuff on the internet is often not as it seems such as in the scoops case. So even if she did post of credentials why should you believe them? A better idea would be to get your RN friend to take a look at her info and tell you what's up.
 
#28 ·
**** I'd better break out my ERB and military orders along with supporting certificates and awards so people won't think I'm a lair.

Or maybe I don't care because I expect people to not believe every thing to read or hear about regardless of what some one says about them selves. Sad reality is with some time and photo shop I could prove on the internet that I'm really a rocket scientist and that every one should listen to my rocket making plans and try them out their selves.

Now with any luck some one would call me out on it and see that I was full of ****. But it does go along with not believing every thing you find on the internet.
 
#29 ·
Well her name is out there, her credentials are out there, her website is out there. I dont think she is hiding.

AGAIN, do you have any problem with the info she has posted? If not WTF is your point?

And AGAIN, why not ask everyone who offers advice here their credentials then? Im just having a problem in why you started this? Its just the internet dude, call out everyone.
 
#30 ·
What is her name then? I have never seen it. It's not on her page, youtube or in any interview ever conducted with her ever. She has nothing verifiable out there at all. She could be the woman that runs the hospital cafeteria for all anyone knows.

Most people who set themselves up as experts are not this mysterious. Even Ann Barnhardt was open and available, scars, warts and all. It was a simple matter to check and see that she was in fact a licensed broker, with an actual NFA registered brokerage. Not making fake claims (about her background anyway), or hiding behind a pseudoname.

You simply cannot do this type of independent due diligence with Patriot nurse, because she is hiding. Not even a name to look up.
 
#32 ·
She never returned my e-mails. So asking her apparently does no good.

What do you, and several others here, have against wanting someone, who has set herself up as an expert, and is actively charging money for her teachings, to be verifiable?

It's a pretty simple thing. Or do you all think it's a good idea to just blindly accept what anyone says and never question anyone?
 
#33 ·
Who are you? and everyone else here? And everyone who post youtube videos?

AGAIN, do you have ANY reason to question her info? Tell us.

What does she say that is wrong? Ask your "ER" friend. I mean come on, educate us without your credentials.

If she is putting out bad info and you know then tell us. If she isnt then whats your problem?
 
#35 ·
Why so defensive? I have no problem. You guys are getting all worked up for no reason that I can see.

Maybe you value being naive and gullible? You never question anything that anyone says, and are foolish enough to buy whatever it is you are being sold.

However, to the rest of us, someone that is presenting themselves as an authority, should be able to back that up.

Someone selling snake oil has to hide who they are. Someone legit puts their name on their product and stands behind it.

Patriot nurse NEVER puts her name behind anything. All we have is an internet pseudoname. There is nothing to set her apart from anyone else selling snake oil.

And you guys are just OK with that? Shes selling life or death information, and you just suck it up like fools without even a name you can research to see if shes actually a nurse at all? and you give me grief?

Really, how naive are you anyway?
 
#39 ·
Hahaha you taken things way out of proportions OP and seem to be the only one really worked up. The rest of us are all saying that you are correct no one should blindly follow what some one says on the internet.

How ever if the information is good (which I honestly have no idea if it is or not this is the first I've ever even heard of the women) then who cares if she's a sheep farmer in Antarctica.

So she doesn't answer your emails (which I will give you props for sending) who cares. I'm sure she is busy and being a women probably gets a lot of emails from males wanting to know more about her.

My point this whole time has been look at the info not the person. I've so called laymen have some very good information, and I've seen AT death dealer CIA operatives not know how to execute a proper punch.

Look at the information, if your not sure about it then do your research. Who cares about the person putting it out.
 
#43 ·
I am just asking who she is. No one knows. There is nothing to even confirm she is a nurse at all. Yet so many, place her in such high regard....with no support at all.

Anyone can go on the internet, and claim anything they want. How does anyone know shes not just a house wife who could not hold a nursing job in the first place? She has put forth no verifiable credentials...not even a name.

As for the info itself, yes, it is a stand alone issue. However, much of it requires an expert education to verify also. My ER freind can easily do so....but I can't.

Being able to verify she actually IS a nurse would go a long way to justify what she says is worth my time. It should not be such a big huge argument over something so simple.

If I was buying a car, I could carfax it from my phone and know the entire vehicle history easier than even knowing this womans name...and the car is not dealing in potentially life or death information.

Suppose someone, believing her to be a real nurse, tries one of her ideas in real life, and someone dies because of it...then we find out she never actually even completed nursing school?

My friend the ER nurse has her name, right on her uniform. Her patients can verify her credentials, any disciplinary history and professional background easily.

What is Patriot Nurses name? Surely her name is not Patriot Nurse.


Even Ann Barnhardt put her name out...and she defrauded a client out of 500K (which looks to be the real reason her brokerage went under)
 
#50 ·
Wait you are sugesting people try first aid out from some one with no credentials to see if it works.

Rather than find out first if that person is full of crap or not.

The point is that If I am not a qualified nurse I doubt OP is. I would want the information from someone who is. This is why we go to experts in the first place. So credentials and background is important.

You have tried to change the argument OP did not say she was wrong he said he did not know who she was and what her background is.

By the way baging your head on a wall cures herpies. Now I have no credentials and you did not pay for that one so who am I hurting right?
 
#45 ·
What is your friends name? and credentials? Till you tell us she is just fictional. If info is true who cares if they have "credentials"?

By your own standards any info you have given on this site is BS.

If you would just simply tell us what info she gives out is untrue then this thread would have a purpose.

What is your name and your "friends"?
 
#46 ·
If she has real credentials, that would go a long way, so far as knowing if she is worth listening to. If she is some nut case who just flunked out of nursing school, better to just ignore her and spend our resources on more credible information sources.

As far as my freind goes, you are not her patient. If you were, she certainly would not expect you to just accept an internet pseduoname like a naive fool....which is exactly what Patriot nurse is doing.

BTW, I never said she has said anything untrue. Dont put words in my mouth. I am simply looking for verification of her claims of being an actual nurse...which you, nor anyone else can prove.
 
#47 ·
Dude are you really that dense? I dont think you are for real. Just give what info patriot nurse gives that isnt true. Simple task.

You are using your 'friend' to alledgedly say she is wrong, give credentials and example. If nothing she says isnt true then really what is your problem?

Why would you believe anything anyone says here is true? And why would you think we should believe anything you say is true?

You read and double check, credentials dont mean ****. As our government should have shown you long ago.

And are you patriot nurses patient? Nuff said then, by your own words.
 
#54 ·
My freind never said she was wrong. Said she sounds like a midwife. Why she said this, I don't know. Then she told me not to go to the internet for advise. Instead come to her directly.

There is NOTHING WRONG with wanting to verify a source, before using it.

I don't really know why you are being so defensive here.
 
#48 ·
"Who is PAtriot Nurse?"

A quick google search on the question and I found that she has run afoul of a pro vaccination group because of her public stance on not vaccinating small kids due to the risks. (another story for another thread)

http://autismum.com/2012/01/25/the-patriot-nurse-a-letter/

I for one think she puts out a lot of good information.
 
#55 ·
Ya know...I finally decided to see if she was hiding her identity. hell an above link has her name.
http://thepatriotnurse.com/about/[/Qoute]

No it does not. Her name is not anywhere on her page, let alone THAT page. Only name I see on there is on the poto, and it looks like it is the name of the photographer.

http://www.michellenicoleproductions.com/#/about/

Want more?

http://teapartyhandbook.blogspot.com/2013/06/the-patriot-nurse.html

I really never thought her name was an issue, and it isnt. It wasnt important to me but it should have been to you.
Same name as the photographer on her web page....not her.
 
#51 ·
I really do not understand the hostility toward the OP's question. Nor the accusations that he has "called out" anyone, or insulted anyone, or said anyone lied about anything. He's not the one getting agitated imo.

VN, if you want a good source for shtf first aid, I recommend the Doom and Bloom Survival Medicine Handbook (the new edition). Very respected in the survival and preparedness community and their names and credentials are right on the book!
 
#58 ·
She never said, only "STOP going to the *internet* for information, come to me directly." And she commented that PN talked like a midwife. Why she said that, I have no idea.

She worked the bulk of her 12 year career in the ER of a level I trauma hospital. Always did the busiest 12 hour weekend shifts with all the gang shootings, stabbing multiple blunt trauma injuries from beatings and all that.

The ER she is a charge nurse at now is much slower. It runs the gambit of typical things from colds, to car crash victims etc...

She's pretty much seen it and done all. Maybe shes just jealous that I was looking at another nurse when she is in the elite of her profession, and one of my best friend's?
 
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