Local dog hunters said lion are easy to kill and they use a 22lr pistol. The key is putting the projectile in the right spot. Of the pistols that you listed carry the one you shoot best. At night you may wish a good shotgun and buck shot. I had an issue with a wild boar who was bothering my pigs. I took the scope off the 454 casull and took it out as it was late in the evening and getting dark

 

I would stay with a full sized automatic .40 cal or 10 mm. solid bullet.

 

Might be a good choice, but I don't want to buy any more guns just now, especially one that I don't have others of, I'm trying to narrow/consolidate my calibers/bullet needs....

 

I probably opt for a .357 mag, but you should use whichever you can shoot best.

 

I'm ok with either, the .45 probably has less kick.....although with a M Lion charging I may not be able to hit the broad side of anything....

 

What 9 mm guns do you have?

I think it is more important to have a bunch of quick follow on shots because the odds are you will miss with a few shots. (small fast target, excitement, adrenaline etc. )
I think a 9mm would do the job with solid ammo.

 

Good point!

Springfield XD
Berreta 92
Sig P226

 

Keep your 9mm if that's what you practice with and comfortable with , just get some decent rounds and you'll be fine.

 

I found an article detailing several bear attacks and posted it in one of the bear attack threads. That might be helpful. It showed that the 9 mm was actually one of the best answers for bear attacks.

I think this was the article.

https://www.ammoland.com/2019/03/pi...3/pistols-or-handguns-used-to-defend-against-bear-attack-95-effective-63-cases/

 

Cougars are not aggressive and generally just want to be left alone. Joggers who get attacked act like prey and do not maintain situational awareness. The same thing would happen to them in the city from a 2-legged predator.

Back in the day when I hunted the cats a .22 WMR Ruger Single Six was plenty. Let the dogs tree the cat, pop him in the head and game over.

These days I have more respect for four-legged predators and I am generally on their side unless they are killing livestock.

Any decent personal defense load in 9mm, .38 Special +P etc. will do the job if a genuine threat, but city people do not understand animal behavior and the great majority of times YOU are the intruder in HIS territory and he is just being a cat.

Sorry if I don't seem sympathetic. As I get older I don't enjoy killing critters that don't need it. That is a sin.

 

Cougars


These days I have more respect for four-legged predators and I am generally on their side unless they are killing livestock.

Sorry if I don't seem sympathetic. As I get older I don't enjoy killing critters that don't need it. That is a sin.

Its Mountain Lions

I have no wish to kill one of these creatures, trust me.....but I have to attend to our animals at night and do not want to be killed over it, just want to carry some protection just in case....

 

If it's a double action .357 then load up some hardcast and you're good imo.

 

Lions (cats) are mostly ambush hunters, not chargers. Either handgun will work, pick the one you're most comfortable with. Mostly watch your 6 or work in pairs.

 

Being Old I've got a lot of time pulling the trigger on revolvers. The 180 grain .357 Mag loads should be pretty effective at discouraging a M. Lion. from returning. But since my favorite .357 is the Old L-Frame, perhaps you should consider the New S&W L-Frame .44 Mag. Downside is it only holds 5 rounds, yet many only carried 5 rounds on the Old Exposed Firing Pin six round .357 Mags. JMHO.

 

Anything less than a .454 casull and you'll just **** em off.

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A 300 gr projectile in a 454 will do a lot of damage. You need to make your first shot count. It is very difficult to shoot rapid fire double action. So is a 357. The dog hunters tell a story of a 22 mag going through a bears head and leaving a very large exit hole. The size of the hole has increased over time but the bottom line was it killed the bear in the tree. Again, when protection is important, use what you shoot best. The armchair guys will go for bigger is better but a round in the "X" ring is what counts

 

I was forced to deal with a black panther several times the first year I lived here. While I know and trust my revolvers, these cats always showed up at night (or early before dawn) and I could not figgure out how to mount a weapons light to a revolver.

So I bought modern semi auto and mounted a Streamlight. Another option would be mounting a light to shotgun, or semi carbine.

You cant shoot, what you cant see.

 

You Can't shoot what you can't see. Answer NVS:

 

Out of everything you mentioned I'd take the 9mm over the revolvers. More chances to hit with the 9mm plus you can attach a light.

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The Beretta and Sig should both be quite capable of 147gr +P JHP, such as Winchester Ranger, Federal HST, etc. SG Ammo and Bone Frog Gun Club both generally have those or something comparable in stock. As far as off-the-shelf factory loads go, that's about the most damage you can do with 9mm. A lighter bullet will get you higher velocity for marginally more penetration, but we're not talking head shots on a grizzly.

 

The Beretta and Sig should both be quite capable of 147gr +P JHP, such as Winchester Ranger, Federal HST, etc. SG Ammo and Bone Frog Gun Club both generally have those or something comparable in stock. As far as off-the-shelf factory loads go, that's about the most damage you can do with 9mm. A lighter bullet will get you higher velocity for marginally more penetration, but we're not talking head shots on a grizzly.

No, it actually won't....


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Taurus tracker or raging bull in 454 casull

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Daggone right.

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It never ceases to amaze me how many people don’t read the original post or who don’t understand it.

 

Thank you......sigh......

 

Too many variable to initiate a good shot. Darkness, moving target, might not see the target until it's too late. I think i would opt for a 12g with 00 buck. Sling it if you must...

 

Something in .41 magnum or 10mm.

 

9mm is fine.

Most grown catamounts weigh in 75 to 125ish so its not like elephant hunting. What you'd use on a human attacker works on them. Chances are unless your stock or dog smells them you'll never know their around.

 

You're in greater need of lightning protection than you are of mountain lion protection.

 

My son was walking on a trail behind the barn, maybe 200 yards from the barn and encountered a lion on the trail. The lion was as frightened as he was and ran. He did get a photo on his phone. He chose his enfield (303) to carry on walks. I loaded some 180 grain cast projectiles for him. He feels safe with it. The main predator we see and hear are coyotes. I use a 22 mag or 22 centerfire on them. When I'm out in the field I carry a 38 or a 22. Both revolvers.

 

Where I live we have hogs, bear, and mountain lions. I always carry a rifle even if it's only 22 magnum and a handgun. No rifle? I carry my Glock 40 cal. or Ruger Redhawk with 5 1/2" barrel. Prefer carrying the Glock because in my 57 years I have never been attacked by anything but women! Which are still illegal to shoot it seems. Confrontation is very rare. YMMV however!

 

This message was posted by one of our neighbors, it happened last night around midnight...


“About a half hour ago my dogs were going crazy and the goats came up to our porch, looking behind their pasture, towards the big rocks and the mountain to the East.
I looked towards where the Cattle dogs were barking, and sure enough, a big Mountain Lion was goin from rock to rock.
I ran in the house, grabbed my shotgun and some double 00 shells, ran back outside, fired a couple rounds, ( I knew he was out of range for my shotgun ), to scare him off, and he didn't even run away, he just kinda walked fast towards my neighbors place.
I called her up, and she said she had just lost 15 of her chickens, and had seen him behind her house on a rock .
She put a spotlight on him, and he just sat there licking himself, looking into her light...he is unafraid....scary to say the least.
I have my shotgun right by the door with 00 buck shells at the ready....hope I don't have to use them....but just in case, I don't want to lose my goats, or my dogs..”

 

That leaves me with .357 or .45 LC....any thoughts?

.357 would be my choice. Double Action harder punch.