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This is essentially what I suggested with my comment about the citizens getting involved. The citizenry knows who the local and state enemies of our nation are and they must be dealt with! As was told to the Israelites of the Old Testament..... “Kill every man, woman, beast of the field, then salt the earth”! I submit this to mean that if you do not eliminate them, you will have to deal with them later! Very harsh....but, reality! memtb

QUOTE: I don't think civil war as it's been defined is what will happen. I think it will be guerilla warfare such as the Irish "troubles".

Bombings, assassinations, government troops, tit-for-tat, walls, fences, political migration ...
 

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when the supposed POTUS has already declared a "battle for the soul of the nation" and Claimed The Lord is on their side, I would say that's a pretty specific allegation, if you are not in alignment with the communists and globalists then you are against God.
It looks like a declaration of war to me.
 

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I've wondered if Conservative, Right-wing Patriots would start a war.

I've wondered if Socialist Libs would start a war.

It is a Cold War right now....

And I wonder if our Govt just fired a shot????



“We have seen a growing threat from those who are motivated by racial animus, as well as those who ascribe to extremist anti-government and anti-authority ideologies,” Olsen said.

So... If you aren't woke... is the Govt going to come knocking?
So... if you don't believe in Poopy Pants Ideology.... is the Govt going to come knocking?
So.... if you speak against the FBI going after school parents after a school board meeting.... is the Govt going to come knocking?


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I read most of this thread, nothing new on here, but your response is the only one so far that makes sense.
As long as nobody is starving, there is still law enforcement in most places, and the power is still one, nobody is going to start a war, or revolution. People complain if their favorite box of pasta or soda is not available at the store, and stuff costs more. A few people ( percentage wise) protest against the way thing are now. The vast majority does nothing other than try to life their lives.
People start civil wars and revolutions when their children are starving and they have literally nothing to lose. That hasn't happened yet.
Thank you for the kind words.

We Americans are nowhere near any sort of CWII. We have it way too good and many of us have never felt real pain, sacrifice or hardship. Fat men on couches watching TV and eating Doritos are not the material of the warrior class.

I saw what "SHTF" looked like in Iraq. What struck me the most that even in the midst of the most devistated areas, there were still pockets of normalcy. You'd see an old lady sweeping a sidewalk next to a bomb crater. Truly surreal stuff.
 

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And when you bring ideas about God into the debate, you open up a level of convolution no one can unravel.

In almost every major conflict you can name, two or more sides were yelling "God is with us!"

That's the problem. No entity sees themself as the villain unless they are intentionally and knowingly being the bad guy. Where there is any level of ambiguity, there is more than one side convinced they are in the right.

When we deride stuff like Biden's comments that God is one the side of fighting for the soul of America, think about whether you are gut reacting to Biden or the words.

I don't know about you, but I hope that in the battle for Canada's soul, God is on our side. I don't care who the leader is or who says it, because as long as it is true we are going to turn out fine.

Americans SHOULD be probably thinking the same.
 
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I recently rewatched Christopher Titus' "Amerigeddon" comedy special. He made an awesome point in it.

He pointed out the US Constitution does not say "Us and Them the People", it says "WE the People".



That is a powerful thought. The writers of that document had been through a lot, including fighting among themselves, when that was written. They saw the importance of a nation, with all its people's differences, being a unified entity.

The only people who win by dividing the national public is the guys ACTUALLY in charge.

I don't care if you voted Trump, Clinton, or Santa Claus.

The important thing is not fighting the fights THEY want us to. Don't focus on the media and political power driven lines of division; they are unreal and distractions.

Nothing is as strong as a people united. Find common ground and work from there. Let go of hate for hatred's sake and anger fueled by those who benefit from keeping us angry at the wrong targets.

Canada's document is not the powerhouse The Constitution is. I envy some of what you have as declared rights and defenses.

Don't look so closely at the words you lose the meaning in all the scribble. "We the People of the UNITED States, in order to form a MORE PERFECT UNION, establish justice, ensure domestic tranquility, provide for the common defense, promote the general welfare, and secure the blessings of LIBERTY to OURSELVES AND OUR POSTERITY, do ordain and establish this Constitution of the United States of America".

United... something was once said about that in relation to standing or falling.
More perfect....meaning it wasn't.
Union... I think we all know more than one person makes up a union.
Liberty to ourselves and posterity... not just some, but all Americans.

I think that if people were able to forgive after some of the trials your country has been through, pulling together after an election should be manageable. Just don't forget what you are doing it for....

And don't forget who it is that REALLY wants us all divided...Americans, Canadians,... there are people who benefit from us fighting each other instead of the real enemy.
 

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Playing term warfare, a "civil" war is a breakdown in a civil compact - though the official definition is a war between factions or regions of the same country.
Based on the original delegation of power, at least pursuant to the Declaration of Independence, American governments are instituted to secure Creator endowed rights.... YAY
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AS soon as one gives consent to be governed, as a subject citizen, mandatory civic duties abrogate those endowed rights. WHOA
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What this means, is that since FRAUD was used to persuade millions that they were "born citizens" bereft of their endowed rights, and only left with the privileges accorded to them ("civil and political liberties"), it is entirely possible that the United States of America have been in a "Civil" war since 1933, when the "State of Emergency" bypassed the USCON.
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Our institutions taught (or indoctrinated) us to believe we were free, when the law said we were subjects.
(Think about it - only citizens have mandatory militia duty - the obligation to train, fight, and die on command. If that's not an abrogation of one's life and liberty, just ask a Draft Dodger from the 1960s.)
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So if the majority of Americans are acting like they're "the boss" when, in fact, they're Bantha Poodoo, thanks to "mandatory" Socialist InSecurity. It really stretches the rubber band of cooperation to the breaking point.

The irony -or bad joke - is that the "wiener" of that 1933 revolution, the Peoples Democratic Socialist Republic, hasn't violated the promise of the republican form - so few that hold the status to claim protections under it. But "the Powers That Be" are accelerating the collapse of the last vestiges of the old government, so that they can get rid of that pesky guarantee in Art .4, Sec. 4, USCON. (Oh yeah, it's their big goal. Just read the UN charter on human rights, and you'll see that the republican form is eradicated.)

In essence, this so-called "Civil War" is an on going operation to destabilize and destroy the unity of the States, and their people, so it will be a simple matter to swap out the republican form for the glorious socialist democratic form (loud acclaim from the muggles and sheeple!)

The very last thing that the PTB/PDSRA want is the American people to read law, decide to withdraw consent, and restore their Creator's endowment that gubmint is obligated to secure - not tax, regulate, nor trespass - lest the gawful consequence mentioned in the Declaration comes into force : "Alter or Abolish".

Think about it - as long as the PDSRA appear to comply with the republican form - no grounds to "alter or abolish" their reign exists. BUT if enough people withdraw consent from the socialist democratic form, that also eviscerates their reign. If they seek to break "their agreement" THEY become the rebels, and the whole nation can turn against them and their allies, minions, quislings, and henchmen. So they're playing the "long con" and want us to shoot ourselves in the foot, so "they" can claim innocence.

A disobedient "voluntary" slave fomenting a "slave revolt" gets the Spartacus treatment.
Whereas a sovereign American who is served by government, regardless of its internal form, is not in violation of any law, nor is to be molested in person or property. Remember, no American government instituted to secure Creator endowed rights can tax, regulate or otherwise diminish them. Only government privileges are taxable and restricted. The servant merely kept silent, and failed to instruct the master's children in government controlled indoctrination centers about the true nature of America's legal history.

No "official" organ of propaganda will ever divulge that Americans gave consent to be governed when they claimed to be US Citizens / Residents, enrolled into FICA and got "their" Number (of the Beast?), and contracted for usury (via Federal Reserve banking).

They trapped us good with Socialist InSecurity. Thanks to socialist taxation, tax-shift inflation, and confiscation of surplus, the average American is wholly dependent upon the scraps tossed from the public treasury (aka "entitlements" aka "public charity" aka "pauperization."). Few Americans can dare to walk away from a lifetime of "contributing" to their own enslavement (Federal Insurance CONTRIBUTIONS Act). And few, if any Americans ever read the "Rules of the Bank" that they agreed to obey, when they signed the "Signature card" when they opened their personal bank accounts.

Civil War?
Hah hah hah hah.
It's been burning down the nation since 1933.
Americans are divided into "takers" and "makers", old versus the young, majority versus minority, and so on.
That is so far from the original document wherein ALL MEN ARE BORN EQUAL AND HAVE CREATOR ENDOWED RIGHTS. There are no partisan divisions under the republican form. All that democratic clap trap is for the servant gubmint, which the FOUNDERS designed to be cash strapped and with minimal power.

How do we know this?
Before 1820s, a citizen / elector (in addition to consent) had to be a property owner, tax payer, militia man, obligated to perform to a higher standard of behavior, and if elected, post a hefty surety bond just in case he misbehaved and someone had to sue for restitution.
As you can imagine, few volunteered under those conditions. Which was exactly the intent of the Founders. They knew the "secret rule" of all governments - grow or die. NO matter what form, a government will seek to spend more, tax more, govern more, meddle more, indebt more, because the opposite is less revenue, less power, and career suicide.
After the 1820s, those strict prerequisites were eased, and any warm body could be a citizen / elector (well, almost anyone). The shift to the democratic form led to that unfortunate fracture of the perpetual union by the "Confederacy."
Only in a democracy can a majority legally persecute a minority.
The Founders are spinning in their graves when public servants spout that Americans should make the world safe for democracy.
 

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I recently rewatched Christopher Titus' "Amerigeddon" comedy special. He made an awesome point in it.

He pointed out the US Constitution does not say "Us and Them the People", it says "WE the People".
Mr Titus was dead wrong.
At the time of the USCON, not all Americans could vote and ratify the compact. Ergo, the People of the United States did not refer to the people of the united States of America.
NO compact can impose its terms on people who are not parties to the compact.
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The Preamble is quite cleverly written. It does make the distinction between the United States and the USA. It did refer to two separate groups.
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If you don't believe me, go read Art I and II, of the Articles of Confederation. You'll see exactly what parties are the united States of America and who are the United States. And since the USCON was enacted under the authority of the Articles and did not redefine terms, they stand.
(Yeah, even Patrick Henry "smelled a rat" about the CONstitutional CONvention.)

Articles of Confederation (1777)
I. The Stile of this Confederacy shall be "The United States of America".
II. Each state retains its sovereignty, freedom, and independence, and every power, jurisdiction, and right, which is not by this Confederation expressly delegated to the United States, in Congress assembled.

"But, indeed, no private person has a right to complain, by suit in Court, on the ground of a breach of the Constitution. The Constitution, it is true, is a compact, but he is not a party to it. The States are the parties to it. And they may complain...."
- - -Padelford, Fay & Co. vs. Mayor and Alderman, City of Savannah, 14 Ga. 438, 520 (1854) Supreme Court of Georgia

Who are the "People of the United States" who are parties to the compact, if not the private people?
The compact is between the States united and the United States, in Congress assembled.

Wuh Woh, Scooby.
 

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The initial quote I put in quotations was his. The rest is mine.

I in no way was implying people are not individual entities. I was making the point that a union is stronger than an individual.

I was trying to make the point that letting the things that only appear to matter divide the whole is exactly what the REAL problem causers want.
 

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jetgraphics, 👍 Extremely well written and oh so accurate! The first shots fired by the socialist in the war against The Republic were fired during the Wilson administration! They’ve been reloading and growing in numbers ever since! memtb
 

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I've wondered if Conservative, Right-wing Patriots would start a war.

I've wondered if Socialist Libs would start a war.

It is a Cold War right now....

And I wonder if our Govt just fired a shot????



“We have seen a growing threat from those who are motivated by racial animus, as well as those who ascribe to extremist anti-government and anti-authority ideologies,” Olsen said.

So... If you aren't woke... is the Govt going to come knocking?
So... if you don't believe in Poopy Pants Ideology.... is the Govt going to come knocking?
So.... if you speak against the FBI going after school parents after a school board meeting.... is the Govt going to come knocking?


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How about if the asterisk president calls Republicans domestic enemies?


What if conservatives took that accusation to heart?
 

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Lagnar.......We’ve been domestic terrorist since the Obama regime! memtb
 

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Lagnar.......We’ve been domestic terrorist since the Obama regime! memtb
The difference is that the asterisk "president" actually came out and said it. I don't recall the o-hole actually saying the words, he usually had his flying monkeys do it.

The media (spit, spit, spit) has been hiding the domestic terrorist label the left has slapped onto parents who confront school boards over crt and its other woke indoctrination agenda. Once normal™ people (those who get their "news" from the TV) become aware of what the left is doing, there will be hell to pay. I hope.
 

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The U.S. military will be conducting an exercise in 25 counties of North Carolina and parts of South Carolina. That is one quarter of the counties in the state of North Carolina. It is a geurilla warfare exercise against a mock enemy called the "Pineland Resistance". Milita's and civilian role players will be participating. So why is our military preparing for guerilla warfare against "resistance"? Resistance to what? Vaccinations or other related compulsory compliance? Here is a link to just one article of several I've seen on this topic.

 

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From a VERY BRIEF half viewed MSM on a major network over the air "News" this evening, the "bit" was over the "uptick" in homemade "bombs"...

Was on a family phonecall, so didn't pay it much attention. Just happened to see some of the scrolling "information"...

"They" are likely trying to UP the "domestic terror" "threat" for all the "useless idiiots"...
 
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You know, what if they gave a war and nobody showed up to play?

Not to harsh on the Op, but this CWII question has been beaten to death.

NOT going to happen.
Agree... when tge supply chain fails we are all in this together. Food and other essential will require all our efforts. Staying alive will be the priority.
 

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The first shots fired by the socialist in the war against The Republic were fired during the Wilson administration!
Go to your county courthouse law library and READ law for yourself. If I told you what you will find in the law, you wouldn't believe me. Shucks, if I went back in time, and told myself, I wouldn't believe me, either. But if you do go to the courthouse, remember to wear knee pads and "Depends" (adult diapers) ... you may fall to your knees, weeping, or pee yourself.
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No, it wasn't Wilson that started the downward slide. It was during Andrew Jackson's administration. (!)
In the 1820s, the states eased the stringent prerequisites for citizens / electors, and began the shift from the republican form to the democratic form (and later, to the socialist democratic form).
It's no coincidence that Jackson's supporters instituted the DEMOCRATIC PARTY (1828).

Of course, the propaganda ministry paints him as a populist and great statesman. Meh.
And the "claim" he paid off the national debt is questionable, because it was only for one year. The red ink immediately resumed, the following fiscal year.
The worst thing was to evict the Cherokee (1830) from their lands, and force march them to modern Oklahoma. . . because there was GOLD in them thar' hills.
Gold strikes in Villa Rica (1826) and Dahlonega (1828), Georgia, were the impetus for the land grab.
The irony is that the Cherokee were known as the "civilized tribe" practicing agriculture and not raiding other people's property. So much for "All men have Creator endowed rights"...
 
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I recently rewatched Christopher Titus' "Amerigeddon" comedy special. He made an awesome point in it.

He pointed out the US Constitution does not say "Us and Them the People", it says "WE the People".



That is a powerful thought. The writers of that document had been through a lot, including fighting among themselves, when that was written. They saw the importance of a nation, with all its people's differences, being a unified entity.

The only people who win by dividing the national public is the guys ACTUALLY in charge.

I don't care if you voted Trump, Clinton, or Santa Claus.

The important thing is not fighting the fights THEY want us to. Don't focus on the media and political power driven lines of division; they are unreal and distractions.

Nothing is as strong as a people united. Find common ground and work from there. Let go of hate for hatred's sake and anger fueled by those who benefit from keeping us angry at the wrong targets.

Canada's document is not the powerhouse The Constitution is. I envy some of what you have as declared rights and defenses.

Don't look so closely at the words you lose the meaning in all the scribble. "We the People of the UNITED States, in order to form a MORE PERFECT UNION, establish justice, ensure domestic tranquility, provide for the common defense, promote the general welfare, and secure the blessings of LIBERTY to OURSELVES AND OUR POSTERITY, do ordain and establish this Constitution of the United States of America".

United... something was once said about that in relation to standing or falling.
More perfect....meaning it wasn't.
Union... I think we all know more than one person makes up a union.
Liberty to ourselves and posterity... not just some, but all Americans.

I think that if people were able to forgive after some of the trials your country has been through, pulling together after an election should be manageable. Just don't forget what you are doing it for....

And don't forget who it is that REALLY wants us all divided...Americans, Canadians,... there are people who benefit from us fighting each other instead of the real enemy.
Most major American corporations are run and managed by liberals and "woke" people, we see this every day, people lose their jobs if they hold contrary views to the leftists dogma
The mega-media is exclusively run and owned by leftist globalists and the policies are geared to censor any right conservative opinions or dissenting information on major news outlets, and this is spoon fed to the masses after subjugating it to the filters of the leftist editors
We cannot even count on the judicial branch of our government to review cases objectively and constitutionally without bias and have become overrun with politicians legislating from the bench, most judges sitting on the bench are appointees from clinton and obamas administrations and behave as such.
Our government is corrupt to the point of the lines are blurred between the oligarchy and industry, and as such we see the influences of the institutionalized leftist presenting as conservative right, (RINO romney et al.)
The leftists have abandonded all pretenses of adhering to Rule of Law, coddle the extremist groups like BLM and ANTIFA, they persecute anyone who dissents or points these facts out in public, AKA cancel culture
The supreme Irony is I see these people driving cars with "resist" stickers. News flash, you are NOT the resistance , you are the establishment.
It is our duty now, then to Subvert the dominant paradigm
It is ironic
 
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