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Like the title says, What's the best mess kit?

I have a Boy Scout style kit I purchased from Wal-Mart many moons ago which is steel with a copper plating on the bottom of the frying pan. While it works great and I have never had any real issues with it, I would like to know if there is anything better, more light weight, with more utensils. I am curious as to whether any are made that would incorporate a fork/knife/spoon combo in the package. I would like to have something that would carry everything I need in one compact unit.

What do you use, or what would you suggest?
 

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Thanks for the replies. But I haven't seen anything that impresses me yet. I looked around the net before asking the question, and was hoping that somebody here would have a suggestion I haven't run across yet. Maybe I'll just stick with what I got for now.

I've actually got a real nice little butane stove as well as the BSA mess kit. I picked up a Brunton Raptor last year, and have been really impressed with it, though I still prefer cooking over an open fire. I've also got a compact roll up grill for use over a Dakota Fire Hole, and a good sized ceramic coated pot with lid and four nested bowls.

As you can imagine, all this stuff is rather bulky since it doesn't all fit together in one unit. I rarely use the large pot, in fact, I never take it with while hiking. It's only for when I camp close to my vehicle. But I could feasibly put a fuel can, my stove, and my eating utensils inside the pot, which will take up less space. It's just too large to put in a backpack.

Anyway, thanks again for the suggestions. I really appreciate it!
 

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I typicaly use charcoal and a little but of water. The only coating I know that would be damaged is teflon. But I don't use teflon for my cookware.
I have used ashes out of the fire pit on occasion with good success. This will only really work if you are cooking things like bacon. The fat mixed with ash makes a natural soap because of the lye found in wood ash.

Most often though, due to not cooking fatty meats, I use a little sponge scrub pad I found in the camping isle of Wal-Mart. It's about half the size of the ones used in the kitchen, and they come with soap already in them. Pretty handy to have in a pack, and light weight too. Scroll down to my pic of the roll up grill. I have the package with one of these scrubbers in it so you can see what brand it is.

I have also on occasion, carried a small travel sized container of dish soap, about the size of the shampoo bottles found in motels. In fact, these work great to carry dish soap in. And a few years back I found some camping towels in a gas station that are really awesome. I have no clue who makes them, or where to find them today, but I thought they were so cool, I bought half a dozen of them.

These towels are super compressed and wrapped in heat shrink plastic, sandwiched between two cardboard disks. The package is about the size of a half dollar, and maybe half an inch thick. To use them, you open the package and drop it in water. As it soaks up the water, the towel becomes uncompressed, quickly turning into a full size washcloth. I haven't found out how to put them back in their packages yet though. :(

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I decided to see if I could find a link for these towels. I found one:

Amazon.com: Camp Compressed Towels, 4 Pack

Now back to the original subject

I don't mean to sound rude to all of you who have been so kind as to share your input with me, but seriously... plastic utensils is all you suggest to carry with you?!? Why do so many of you suggest plastic kits as a mess kit? How do you fry an egg on that?!?! That can't agree too well with a camp stove, now can it?

Well, I finally found the time to snap some pics and upload them to share with everyone so you can see what I am dealing with. What follows is a series of pictures of my cooking/eating tools, and why I am looking to find something better. So without further adieu, I give you, The Mess Kit:



This kit is just too much to pack in on my back, so I usually just take the BSA kit with, along with some other items stashed away inside the pot. Here is what the kit consists of:



As you can see, there is quite a bit of stuff here. The standard BSA style kit is self explanatory,, so I will explain the pot. It contains four nested bowls, four double sided spice shakers, one isobutane canister, a folding fork, spoon, and spatula(my knife stays on my side), a Brunton Raptor cook stove with piezoelectric-electric ignition, and a fire starting kit. The fire starting kit consists of tinder and char cloth,(real)flint, steel striker, a magnesium bar with flint rod on the side, and a razor blade.

When I camp close to my vehicle, I like to use this grill:



It's sturdy, and it makes a mean steak. It's also great for holding my pots and pans so I can cook my stew, fry bacon and eggs, or whatever else I feel like cooking. If I am hiking into the back country, Which I do more often than not, I like to use my roll up grill:



As you can see, it seems rather flimsy. And for all practical purposes it is. I have considered making a pair of steel rods that will snap into it to give some support along the sides, but it usually works good enough for what I cook on it. The trick is to use it in soft soil over a Dakota Fire Hole. Make the hole small enough to fit easily between the legs, then stick the legs into the ground while the grill is stretched to it's most stable position. It's strong enough to hold the blue pot filled with stew, so that's good enough for me. I have also used it quite successfully with the BSA style kit. This is how the grill rolls up:



I wrap it in a towel to keep the soot from getting all over everything, then I stuff it inside it's orange bag and toss it in my backpack.

Now, I know what you're thinking, this is outrageous overkill. I am packing too much stuff with me, and I could just as easily use a few rocks to set my pots and pans on while cooking. I should utilize my surroundings to do my cooking, thus lightening my load. In a SHTF situation, I'd wear myself out after a mile if I was running for the hills. Well, that's why I am asking what the best kit is. I know I have too much. I know I am over-prepared. I want to break this stuff down to only what I need.

But like I said, I'm not always carrying everything with me. I do pick and choose what to take, depending on where I am going and what I am doing. I'm just hoping there is some kind of kit out there that is light, compact, and will be able to carry everything I need to cook and eat with. But you can't cook on plastic. I'd just like to maintain the abilities of this kit while being able to hold all of the same items. I guess what would be optimal for me would be a kit similar to the way the BSA kit packs up, but with a pot similar in size to the blue one I have.

I would like to see a large pot with a nested plate and smaller pot like the BSA kit has, a drinking/measuring cup, a lid for both pots, and a frying pan that can be turned over and latched to the top of the package. Optimally, I would like this kit to have enough extra room to store my stove, fuel, and utensils. I'm sure I am asking way too much though. I have yet to run across anything like this that doesn't cater to four or more people.
 

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I do wish the OP has said, "here's my mess kit, how can I improve it?".
Instead of wasting a page of help.
Maybe you missed my first post, where I specifically said:

I have a Boy Scout style kit I purchased from Wal-Mart many moons ago which is steel with a copper plating on the bottom of the frying pan... I would like to know if there is anything better, more light weight, with more utensils... What do you use, or what would you suggest?
And in my third post, I was able to also provide pictures:

Maybe I am misunderstanding your statement, but I don't believe that a page of help was wasted at all. I asked a question which I thought was clear and concise, that being "What mess kit would be better than the BSA mess kit that I am currently using?". Help was offered, but instead of offering suggestions of suitable replacements for my mess kit, people mistook my request and suggested a series of plastic containers that could never replace the frying pan and pot I currently use to cook with. While I truly appreciate the suggestions that these people have offered, and recognize that they were only trying to help, I do not understand the idea behind plastic as a replacement to such cooking utensils as a frying pan. Plastic is not better, but worse than what I have now.

Now, I don't know about you guys, but I refuse to eat freeze dried foods that I have to pay exorbitant prices for. I like meat. And fresh vegetables. I like to cook stew over an open fire, grill thick cuts of steak, enjoy scrambled eggs and pancakes in the morning. I like to cook brown rice with Sautéed mushrooms and shaved carrots, grilled asparagus and portabello's over an open fire. I enjoy cooking AND eating food way too much to move to preservative filled, precooked meals packed into vacuum sealed plastic bags that only take a cup of hot water to be ready to eat.

In my opinion, that ruins the entire object of camping outside, sitting next to a warm fire under the tree tops, and enjoying a moment of living in a rustic and rudimentary manner. To me, the most appealing part of camping is doing things the hard way. When you move away from something as simple as preparing and cooking your food over a bed of hot coals, to tearing open a plastic bag so you can dump a cup of hot water over a bunch of brittle and dried out nuggets of what might have once been food, you take away everything that makes being outdoors appealing. You may as well just stay home on your couch and microwave yourself some leftovers in that plastic container, because you aren't experiencing anything different, except maybe a rock or two under your sleeping bag.
 

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OK if I ever come to the USA I want to come camping with you as all that food you mentioned sounds really goodand now Im hungry and need to go eat.

By the way I like your fire kit,I spy a traditional flint striker which is my favourite fire starting method.

Heres a photo of the traditional fire kit that I put together,The steel strikers and belt buckle striker I forged myself.
Yep, I like to eat good food. I am an experienced cook, and worked for two and a half years in a resort in Montana's Glacier National Park. If you've never been there, you need to stop by for a visit. You'll love it!

Since I made yer belly grumble, here's a recipe I like to cook when I'm out in the backwoods. It's a recipe I cam up with for stew. It's great because none of the ingredients need refrigeration, meaning you could pack it in with you on a long hike and still enjoy a great, filling meal.

http://www.survivalistboards.com/showthread.php?t=95842

That's a really nice fire kit you got there. Much like mine in fact. I like to have as many ways of starting a fire as possible, so I have the flint and steel and the magnesium fire stick. I also have a nice little fire piston that I have used a few times, but it's kind of hard ot get used to. Most often though, I just use a Bic lighter, because it is convenient. The other stuff is just to make sure I ALWAYS have fire.
 
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