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I just spent a few days in the Asheville area, it was a big break from the down east heat and humidity. I’m considering a 2nd residence to double as a BOL and considering many factors. I like Asheville, but don’t want to be too close to it, there are far too many ex hippie, leftist weirdo, Maynard G Krebs type beatniks there now. I also don’t want to be too close to interstates. I don’t want my property to be contiguous to a national or state park or game land because hikers and hunters have a bad habit of going wherever they like in those areas. I know people who own land next to parks and they constantly complain about trespassers. To me the best areas seem to be West Jefferson, Sparta, Franklin, Murphy to name just a few. Any pros and cons from people who live there now?
 

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I just spent a few days in the Asheville area, it was a big break from the down east heat and humidity. I’m considering a 2nd residence to double as a BOL and considering many factors. I like Asheville, but don’t want to be too close to it, there are far too many ex hippie, leftist weirdo, Maynard G Krebs type beatniks there now. I also don’t want to be too close to interstates. I don’t want my property to be contiguous to a national or state park or game land because hikers and hunters have a bad habit of going wherever they like in those areas. I know people who own land next to parks and they constantly complain about trespassers. To me the best areas seem to be West Jefferson, Sparta, Franklin, Murphy to name just a few. Any pros and cons from people who live there now?
we are in the process of bidding on 10 acres of bare land for sale near asheville.
We lived in canton, just outside asheville, for a few years, and really liked it.

There is lots of freshwater streams pretty much everywhere and the weather is awesome.
As you noticed, during this heatwave we are having, it was a nice break once you got up in the mountains. My mom still lives there, and NEVER runs her a/c to cool the house, and they have an insert in the fireplace that blows hot air into the house during the winter...and the winters are very mild.

Also, dont discount the hippies. Lots of them are into living off the land, and they know what grows in that area, how to grow it, harvest it, cook it, etc...
They even have classes on edible plants and such...

as a survivalist, much of this info can be pretty helpful.

While I may disagree with them politically, I have found them to be humble, intelligent, and experts at "living small".

We are planning on moving up to our land, whereever we end up purchasing, in a few years.

I can think of no disadvantages to living in that area
 

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It's always in Vogue to dump on the "hippies" isn't it. Like they are the cause of all your problems or something. As an ex-hippie turned country squire living in the woods in WNC for the past 35 years (unlike a bunch of you wannabe survivalists) am a living example that you have no idea what you are talking about but are just trying to separate yourself from what you consider the low class. It's the suit and tie people that are killing this country in case you haven't looked.

No, you shouldn't come around here. There are plenty enough ******** as it is.
 

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As an NC'er myself, former Weaverville resident, north of Asheville, and now a Charlottean, and avid fly fisherman, AVOID ASHEVILLE AT ALL COSTS!!!! :D:

The city is known as San Francisco in the mountains....great place to vist, but not live and work..very anti growth/business.....the cost of living is no less than Charlotte, and in some ways, more expensive...

Jobs are hard to get that pay well, and are taken by retireees with phd's willing to work for peanuts.....

might be good for self employed folks....

If it were me, i'd go for farther out in WNC like you suggest.....

I love it out there, perfect BOL sites.......
 

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Only thing about mountainous areas is that a lot of the cheap land is at 45 degrees to the earth. Kinda hard to farm that.
And because of that, most of the people have literally been funneled into valleys where towns are.

Also, cooler climate = shorter growing season.

Otherwise, beautiful area.
 

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It's always in Vogue to dump on the "hippies" isn't it. Like they are the cause of all your problems or something. As an ex-hippie turned country squire living in the woods in WNC for the past 35 years (unlike a bunch of you wannabe survivalists) am a living example that you have no idea what you are talking about but are just trying to separate yourself from what you consider the low class. It's the suit and tie people that are killing this country in case you haven't looked.

No, you shouldn't come around here. There are plenty enough ******** as it is.
+2, I would hope they're talking about the multicultural diversity of youth living downtown, which would be hard to label. I for one admire the backwoods people in your area, hard working true grit kind of folks.

That's a tough choice Admiral Nelson, I'm familiar with both. I might be more inclined to live near Jefferson just because it's further out from large cities. Both areas have been flooded with outsiders which is frowned upon by the locals. It's nothing like it was 20-30 years ago, have you thought about Montana?
 

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Only thing about mountainous areas is that a lot of the cheap land is at 45 degrees to the earth. Kinda hard to farm that.
And because of that, most of the people have literally been funneled into valleys where towns are.

Also, cooler climate = shorter growing season.

Otherwise, beautiful area.
You forgot to mention all the rich summer homes and retreats being built all over them.
 

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As an NC'er myself, former Weaverville resident, north of Asheville, and now a Charlottean, and avid fly fisherman, AVOID ASHEVILLE AT ALL COSTS!!!! :D:

The city is known as San Francisco in the mountains....great place to vist, but not live and work..

That really cracked me up! Thanks for the mental picture.
From this point forward the concert is free but the Brown Acid is bad!:upsidedown:
 

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I am stuck on the outskirts of Asheville - and though I love the scenery, love the current day 'ambience' of our overgrown, log cabin'ed property (which was my aunt's place till she died a number of years ago), and many of the down to earth true locals are wonderful, resourceful and full of survival knowledge - I would do almost anything to leave this particular area of WNC and go MUCH further out into the hills (to where the more practical and sane people live) or MUCH further north. I definitely dislike being this close to Ashville.

The hills do have their issues though. Meth is a real problem out there I hear. And, I know from trying to grow in my own temperate jungle on a hillside, that farming is not easy (as was mentioned above) on an incline.
 

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It's always in Vogue to dump on the "hippies" isn't it. Like they are the cause of all your problems or something. As an ex-hippie turned country squire living in the woods in WNC for the past 35 years (unlike a bunch of you wannabe survivalists) am a living example that you have no idea what you are talking about but are just trying to separate yourself from what you consider the low class. It's the suit and tie people that are killing this country in case you haven't looked.

No, you shouldn't come around here. There are plenty enough ******** as it is.

I'm chuckling, because I was about to put in my post about how if any segment of the population you should be concerned with it is some of the backwoods, uneducated, ******** who would just as soon slit your throat for your food as say hello.

Of course, that is only a portion of the ********, as most are really good people.

but the hippies are very peaceful, and would more likely help you than hurt you.
 

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and many of the down to earth true locals are wonderful, resourceful and full of survival knowledge - I would do almost anything to leave this particular area of WNC and go MUCH further out into the hills (to where the more practical and sane people live) or MUCH further north.
I think you just summed you why I love North Carolina..the true locals are wonderful, down to earth - simple down home living done in the southern way. :thumb: :thumb:


 

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I'm chuckling, because I was about to put in my post about how if any segment of the population you should be concerned with it is some of the backwoods, uneducated, ******** who would just as soon slit your throat for your food as say hello.

Of course, that is only a portion of the ********, as most are really good people.

but the hippies are very peaceful, and would more likely help you than hurt you.
LOL! As for the backwoods, you'll be ok as long as you don't mess with their dog or their land :thumb:
 

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I love Asheville, and without a doubt, SF is the most beautiful city in the world!! That said, I wouldnt wanna bug out anywhere within 25 miles of it, maybe even more.

My BOL is in WNY.
 

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LOL! As for the backwoods, you'll be ok as long as you don't mess with their dog or their land :thumb:
yeah, I want to be careful and not summarize the backwoods ******** in a negative way. Vast majority are really good people.
We had 5 acres and all of our neighbors were native to the area, and all were very nice.
At first impression, they may seem unintelligent by the way they speak or that they dont talk much...but once you get to know them, you find they are in fact a wealth of knowledge.
and most like to shoot, and dont mind if you shoot on your property with a proper backstop.
they wont complain if you have a junk (spare) old car on jackstands on your property, or are doing some digging, etc...unlike the HOA's in my area here in florida :rolleyes:
As I said, I like the population, both hippie and *******, and think that area is a great place to live.

There is lots of steep land in the mountains, but we plan to grow most of our veggies in raised planters and pots, so not a problem for us.
There are acres and acres of crops being grown in WNC, so I think the grow season is plenty long. When I go on my road rides, I see thousands of acres of corn, for instance.
 

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I love wnc.

Read william forstchen's book One Second After for some semi fictional insight into wnc.

We are currently looking for a small farm property in wnc, but probably in Yadkin or wilkes county. They are close enough for me to work but far enough from both the nuclear plants (50 miles) and coal plants (30 miles) to be fairly safe from the pollution put out by them. Also they have less population in Wilkes county then the small city I currently live in.

I also like Asheville. Old hippie / cowboy at heart. :thumb:
Good luck.
 

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WNC is gorgeous, no doubt. I have a great many miles of running, hiking, backpacking, mountain biking, road biking, and motorcycling there. The prices are very high for land and the politics at the state level are quite liberal. This is a problem for many in the prepper community.

Get away from Asheville unless you are interested in that specific cultural scene. Keep heading west. Find a place you like, either before OR after you hit the Mississippi River!
 

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yeah, I want to be careful and not summarize the backwoods ******** in a negative way. Vast majority are really good people.
We had 5 acres and all of our neighbors were native to the area, and all were very nice.
At first impression, they may seem unintelligent by the way they speak or that they dont talk much...but once you get to know them, you find they are in fact a wealth of knowledge.
and most like to shoot, and dont mind if you shoot on your property with a proper backstop.
they wont complain if you have a junk (spare) old car on jackstands on your property, or are doing some digging, etc...unlike the HOA's in my area here in florida :rolleyes:
As I said, I like the population, both hippie and *******, and think that area is a great place to live.

There is lots of steep land in the mountains, but we plan to grow most of our veggies in raised planters and pots, so not a problem for us.
There are acres and acres of crops being grown in WNC, so I think the grow season is plenty long. When I go on my road rides, I see thousands of acres of corn, for instance.
Oh I understand, there's nothing wrong with the backwoods people - it's simple down home living done in the southern way. And no they wont complain if you have a junk (spare) old car on jackstands on your property, or are doing some digging, etc...unlike the HOA's. They have a genuine belief in property rights, all rights for that matter. It's the simple things in life that matters and thats what they value the most....all this other stuff is just trash. I promise if you earn the confidence of some of the old timers you will learn a wealth of knowledge. It's a hard land for hard people but you can still farm it and raise cattle..worse comes to worse you could always plant christmas tress..lol. :D:

I do think it's unfare to describe Ashville as hippyville as some do. Sure there's hippies but also there's rastafarians, gays, bible thumpers, satanist, wiccans, communist, socialist, capitalist, pro government, anti-government, anarchist, patriots, militia, roman catholics, Russian Orthodox, tree huggers, ********, blacks, whites, yellow, browns and reds, just to name a few. WOW! This place is a powder keg waiting to go off....good luck!
 

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Oh I understand, there's nothing wrong with the backwoods people - it's simple down home living done in the southern way. And no they wont complain if you have a junk (spare) old car on jackstands on your property, or are doing some digging, etc...unlike the HOA's. They have a genuine belief in property rights, all rights for that matter. It's the simple things in life that matters and thats what they value the most....all this other stuff is just trash. I promise if you earn the confidence of some of the old timers you will learn a wealth of knowledge. It's a hard land for hard people but you can still farm it and raise cattle..worse comes to worse you could always plant christmas tress..lol. :D:

I do think it's unfare to describe Ashville as hippyville as some do. Sure there's hippies but also there's rastafarians, gays, bible thumpers, satanist, wiccans, communist, socialist, capitalist, pro government, anti-government, anarchist, patriots, militia, roman catholics, Russian Orthodox, tree huggers, ********, blacks, whites, yellow, browns and reds, just to name a few. WOW! This place is a powder keg waiting to go off....good luck!
yes, that is what I love about the place...it's the variety of people, and the fact that they all seem to get along so well. There really is very little crime in this area.
There are meth labs, but even these usually dont result in violence, and they are more common in rutherfordton county than madison, buncombe, haywood, etc...
My wife is vegetarian and we love that we can shoot into town and find some really world class restaurants like doc chey's, for instance.

One day in canton I glanced out my window and saw an old 4x4 toyota driving up the path behind our property. I go out and meet an older gentleman who walked and talked with that quiet confidence of someone who had been there and done that. Turns out he had originally owned my land and had built the house back in 64 with his own hands. The house was a 2000square foot brick home on full basement and was quality. I was a home inspector and general contractor at the time, and knew what I was talking about. Anyways, he said he was looking for some young hemlocks, I think, to transplant onto his current property.
I told him he was welcome to whatever he found on my land.
He then told me that I must have had some mountain man in me (referring to the fact that I treated my land as not something I owned, so much as something I was temporarily inhabiting ;))
Made my head swell a little...
anyways, lots of interesting folks out there in them mountains.
 

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Before I chose to move to Oregon.......I researched the Asheville area in North Carolina as a potential place to move to. Everyone, who already lived there, that I talked to was working two jobs just to make ends meet. It's an expensive area to live in. Housing and property costs are high. (This may have changed, some. I was looking before the housing crash.) The state tax situation is not great. There is a state income tax, ranging from 6 to 8%. Property is assessed at 100% of appraised value. There is a homestead exemption IF you are living on the property as your primary residence. Locals are not all that thrilled with newcomers moving in, either.

No question that it is a beautiful scenic place to live. But, you might want to check out some other states before you make your final decision.
 
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