Just one more reason friends don't let friends shop at chinamart.

 

Amen, broseph.
Now SHE sees it too, which is good.

You know the bitch of it, I TRY to buy American. Do you know how hard that is? It's ridiculous.

I have avoided China_Mart most of the time if I could, but it's just too much BS now.

You know when Sam Walton was alive, he would have a sign announcing American made products, and there was a "made in the USA" sign on stuff that WAS.

He would be ****ed if he saw what his store has become.
He used to make FUN of some of the stuff that they are doing TODAY in stores that bear his name.

 

I understand your frustration but I also say that yo are over reacting. I shop at COSTCO. They check every cart leaving. That's to prevent shoplifting. Same with some Walmarts. Sad, but true today.

Your beef is not with a store that is trying to keep costs down and fight thieves but with those thieves.

 

I see your point, but.
I have to respectfully disagree with you.

No.
BUll$HIT. I WORKED in retail security, and 3/4 of their losses are INTERNAL.

I am tired of it. The "keep costs down" argument is messed up.

That's the same logic that brought us the "patriot act" and Gun Control. "Just give up a LITTLE Liberty for a LITTLE safety"
Then a LITTLE more.
Then a LITTLE more....

negative.

 

OK I'm ROFL, not at you but just at the thought of you rolling around on the floor with someones grandma because you wont expose your bag in front of her, Ok thats not what I meant so get it out of the gutter, We go through that in K-Zoo but believe it or not we don't go through it when we shop at the WM in portage, different demographics you see. I think its more of the sign of the times than something personal. However it would be fun to just bolt from the cashiers stand and run nervously out to my car to see who is chasing me.... hmmmm watch the news

 

I can see them checking if the alarm goes off, but sometimes they just go overboard. I bought a box there once, the kind that is broken down and is totally flat. You have to pop it out into box shape, tape it up and mail things in it. They wanted to check it even though it was totally flat.

 

dirt fisher, you are right. waldo-mart is really becoming to "corporate" and not what sam had first thought of.

 

I always ignore and keep walking, the manager at one store told me that it wasn't necessary to stop and even if we had stolen something the most they could do is ASK for it back...unless someone actually sees you conceal it they can't do anything.

I 've never stolen from anywhere but I'll be d'd if I will just let some nilly willy look through my stuff cause they have the greater than though attitude.

 

I avoid Walmart at all costs. I don't like supporting the Chinese economy. However, I've lived in small towns (Great Bend, KS and Nevada, MO) where Walmart was about the only place you could buy anything. Going to Walmart was the weekend entertainment. However, now that I'm in the Denver area, I have some choices. I've never experienced a "gestapo" attitude at Walmart but I have at a southern California K-Mart once.

 

hey also remember boys and girls if you shop at Sams club your shopping at walmart too, and we don't have a costco here in MI that I know of. Just sayin

 

Two Costco's in Grand Rapids. Wilson at 44th (closest) and 28th by I-96. You're welcome!

 

I'm not feelin the love for wong-mart either, but you gotta make a trade off. It might be that you find yourself five miles down the road with Ofc. Royd breathing down your neck, asking what your malfunction is. You know how one thing leads to another sometimes.

Or they might just ask you not to come back. That might not be a big deal depending on your locale. But for some, it can turn a last minute stop on the way to the B-Day party into a 20 mile, hour-long foray into the next town.

Best play it by ear.

 

I frequent 5 different Walmarts. I've never had a problem. I periodically get checked and although internal theft was bad, now shopping theft if much worse.

Food consumption on the premisis is very bad. They sure can't check for that either.

What kind of zoo fn places do you live in? I've purchased only 5 items in the last 6 months "NOT" made in the US. Sneakers, a video, and 3 pairs of shorts.

I stop by at least every other day to check on ammo, like a convenioence store, and always walk out with something it seems.

In out fast American made. Besides the lady at the seasonal counter has great legs.

I get treated the same in each one. Maybe I just act right and appreciate the service they give me.

Remember these people are your family, friends and niebors. If you don't respect them why should they respect you and what is it saying about you and your attitude.

Or, maybe it's regional?

 

Please...

Have some compassion for the little people only trying to make a living. Most of them I have talked to and joked with aren't thrilled to be working there. Sure they aren't degreed folk, but beating them up for what they are told to do is wrong.

I do agree with you though, and most of the time when I leave a Fry's electronics I blast right past them and ignore their hails. Never really get checked at Walskart.



I do not shoot the messenger.




Sierra Dave

 

Have some compassion for the little people only trying to make a living. Most of them I have talked to and joked with aren't thrilled to be working there. Sure they aren't degreed folk, but beating them up for what they are told to do is wrong.

I do not shoot the messenger.

As much as I wish I could do that, that is bull.
I WORKED there, and I know what kind of people they hire, it wasn't that way when I worked there.

I don't buy the 'just doing my job" line either.

I'm sure the Nazis took that argument to their graves, and because you are told to do something doesn't make it right.

That is not an excuse, and I do not and WILL not take being treated like a thief lightly, nor will I be subjected to unconstitutional and unwarranted searches, harassment or being detained against my will.

 

You guys are getting too serious over tripping a Walmart alarm and the poor little rent-a-cop trying to feed his 8 kids and dirty, unkept wife...

A couple of years ago, as my wife and I were leaving a Walmart the alarm sounded. Without missing a beat I looked to my wife and said, "NOW what did YOU do?" This caught both my wife and the security guy off guard and we all laughed a bit. He checked over our list and our products and then waved us through with no trouble at all. Of course, my wife did slap me a little when we got outside...

Humor, folks. That is the key to defusing many situations which can be annoying under some circumstances. If you don't have a sense of humor, then when survival situations come at us, life will be hard. You've got to laugh a little and have some fun. Not all the time. But, occasionally, look at a situation and smile.

 

so wearing your cameos in full face grease while carrying your M-16 would be a bad thing?

 

Forgot to add...

Yes, the receipt checking is for theft prevention. Not for shop lifting per se, but stuff not rung up at the register, by maybe inside collusion. They have cameras watching, but something slid across the bar scanner may not actually get rung up.



Sierra Dave

 

"so wearing your cameos in full face grease while carrying your M-16 would be a bad thing? "

Well, not in some areas... Camouflage clothing and appropriate firearm are expected in Arkansas, Alabama, West Virginia, Tennessee, Georgia and Mississippi. Except on Sundays when you are expected to wear your best Sunday-go-to-church bib overalls, wear a handgun on your hip, carry a Bible in your hands and use a spit cup... Isn't tradition grand???

 

Actually...YES. Tradition is great. I'm sure north of the Manson/Nixon line, they'd probably call SWAT if you did that. :thumb:

 

This happens at almost every store in WA. If people would stop stealing they wouldnt have to do this and like it was posted earlier people do make mistakes while ringing things up. Alot of stores have self checkouts to. Which I think its stupid. It wont help the theft situation. They just think its nice cuz they dont have to pay for a clerk to ring stuff up. Just relax and dont be uptight about it. Are you going to do the same thing at an airport when they check your bags and scan your body? Now if laws werent strict we wouldnt have a stealing issue. I would walk into walmart with my gun and if i saw someone stealing well it would be one less thief on this earth. We need rough justice. If 20 people got killed for stealing at walmart i can guarentee everyone would stop. In Singapore and the middle eastern countries nobody steals because you will lose a hand or be killed. But this could go wrong to and someone innocent could get shot just because someone didnt like them. There is no perfect way to any system. We just have to wait for God to come and clear it all out.

 

The other day, the GulfFoxtrot and I.

Ha ha ha! That's classic.:
Yeah, Walmart security is absurd. One of them actually placed his hand on my hundred pound wife's shoulder last year and I slapped it off.

 

I also live in Michigan. The few times I have been to Sam's Club (owned by Walmart) they have looked at my receipt every time on the way out. I don't shop at Walmart either.

Why did you make such a big deal about this? They are just trying to do their job. Do you make a big deal at airport security too? If you make a big deal with the TSA (Totally Suck A$$) you will miss your flight. I'm not hatin on the job TSA was meant to do, I'm frustrated that they are incompetent in their jobs and unable to think for themselves. I respect the INTENT of the TSA, but the IMPLEMENTATION leaves a lot to be desired.

 

The point that I was taking away from DF's post is THIS is another barely perceptible creep towards total control of our lives. Like that quote about America going Socialist and wouldn't even know it until it was too late. We all know that door guys are just doing their jobs and that also we have choices in where we shop and can express our views at that time (nicely).

It sure seems ironic now that Sam Walton copied Fred Meijer's idea of these stores because the crafty old Dutchman wouldn't sell out to him. Now Meijer's has to try to outdo Wal-Mart for stupidity and has made a formerly wonderful merchant into an also-ran. It they had stuck to their original policies they would have blown Wail-Mart away.

 

Wal Mart special ninja security task force warrior

This is good:thumb:

 

Security

I remember a few years ago some Walmart employees tackled a shoplifter in the parking lot.

It was in Texas (Houston?) in the summer. I've lived in Houston in the summer and you could cook an egg on an asphalt parking lot.

The Walmart geniuses held the suspect down while he begged for his life.

By the time the police got there, the guy was dead. He cooked to death on the hot pavement.

He was survived by a wife and children, as I remember it. But then, my rememberer never was as good as it used to be.

I remember trying to follow the story after that, but couldn't find anything.

I remember this for sure (I think), the store motto (when Sam was still alive) was, "We buy American whenever we can, so you can too".

My beloved country is so screwed. It becomes more like China every day.

When I was living on the island of Maui three years ago, a young Chinese man named Shang Shau Wei was my friend and next door neighbor.

One night when we were talking about China, I remember him asking me, "America strong now, right?"

I nodded my head.

He said, "Maybe China be strong someday".

 

I think Walmart's security procedures vary based on the pilferage level (either internal or external). or maybe it varies by state law. We used to have to buy electronics in the electronics departments in the MA and ME stores, but no longer. The MA stores (but not the ME ones) sometimes have a civilian clothed person at the exit door, but they just stand there and don't do anything.

But from what I have read Michigan is in very tough shape - I imagine crime must be rampart.

However, I'm wondering about a communist (Chinese) owned store (Costco) that always uses Nazi tactics checking all purchases (the fact that they don't supply shopping bags helps) versus an American one that may use Nazi tactics in some places. What's the difference between Walmart's and Sam's Club?

Do any stores in Michigan have self-checkout? Most supermarkets stores and Home Depots here do.

Personally I like BJ's myself.

 

Personally I like BJ's myself.

I have to leave that one alone....

I rarely go into Wal-Mart but I have been stopping in about once a week to check on the ammo supply. The local one is dismal for that however, small section and not much in the case. There seems to be two greeters, one going in and one going out. The store is always somewhat crowded so they are not hurting for business. Anyway, from my limited experience I have never been hassled one way or the other. Not sure what my initial reaction would be however, it would depend on my mood of the day.

I try to shop at a more local level but that does not always work so I am familiar with Lowes and Home Depot as far as 'Big Box' stores go. Never hassled there either.

I can't think of a CostCo around here and the local BJ's is just too much of a hassle to drive to for me.

 

I do shop at walmart but one thing I have to point out is that almost everything I buy is food, so how is that supporting the chinese? Is our milk, bread , eggs and meat coming from china?

Dont think that just because someone shops at walmart they are buying a lot of general merchandise. Even if you do pick up clothes there, its no different than almost anywhere else you shop. The vast majority of clothes are not made in the US.

 

I work at a Sam's Club and they do that in order to make sure you haven't been over/under charged and to check high ticket items so that people didn't do a upc switch ect. We aren't being buttholes, we're doing our job. If you can't handle someone asking for your receipt don't shop there. There electronics guy was over the top, however.

Thread fail.

 

Ability to read the thread and discuss intelligently fail.

 

Yup, their store, their rules. I am not up on the law as respects when transfer of ownership takes place (although seemingly it would be right after you paid for it regardless of whether you are still in the store or not), but it just seems to me that if you know that they do this you have a choice - shop elsewhere or accept the check. I think if you owned the store and were losing a lot of money to shoplifting you might feel different about it. Shop lifting increases the price for all of us.

As for buying Chinese made goods (clothes or otherwise) I have no problem if they are safe, quality products - the problem is that many are not and it is difficult to tell.

 

Aside from my website I work as an under cover loss prevention agent. Just walk out of the store next time. They cant even touch you, and if they do you can sue them! They have to physically see you take the item, conceal it, and leave the stores property before stopping you. Oh and they have to have "eyes on" the entire time. If they loose site of you even for a minute, they cant detain you.

 

you're over-reacting. if you don't like there procedure, shop elsewhere. as long as you are in there building, you go by there rules. they check everybody's receipt. you're not special.

 

See that's the problem. THEY DON'T check EVERYONE'S receipt.

THAT is the problem.