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Vitamin C Is About To Be Made Illegal In Canada! Nutritional Supplements Banned In Canada! Bill C-51

So you want to take Vitamin C, how about if it was illegal to take that vitamin C, what if it was so illegal that you could be thrown in jail for up to 2 years and fined up to $5,000,000! Sounds like fiction doesn't it?

Well it's about to become reality unless people become aware of what is going on. The Canadian Government is trying to pass a bill known as Bill C51. This bill has already passed its second reading and it is flying under the radar, it is very close to becoming law and some powers that be DON'T WANT YOU TO KNOW! This bill would give entire control of supplements over to drug companies by only allowing MDs to "Prescribe" them as they see fit. Of course we know here in this country the government controls the doctors and the pharmaceutical companies tell the government what laws they want inorder to make more profit. What this means is that if you want to take a multivitamin or some Omega-3, you have to book an appointment with your doctor, go in and try to convince your doctor that you are in need of these supplements. If you doctor doesn't approve or better yet decides a certain drug would be better off for you then you unfortunately won't have access to your supplements anymore.

On top of this the entire natural supplement industry will collapse on itself, thousands of jobs will be lost and even more stress will be placed on our already crumbing over-stressed medical system. Imagine waiting over a month to get in to see your MD just to request if you can take some oregano oil for a cold that has now come and past, only to have your request denied anyway.

The irony of all this is that MDs who are NOT trained in the use of herbs and supplements for the most part will have full control over what you can and CANNOT TAKE. To summarize:

- No More Supplement Stores!

- Supplements are made illegal unless obtained through a prescription and 70% of all current supplements on the market will be removed!

- Prices for obtainable supplements will be higher than they are currently due to the monopolization, and being made into prescriptions!

- Restrict research and development of safe natural alternatives in favor of high risk drugs!

- Punish Canadians with little or no opportunity for protection or recourse for simply speaking about or giving a natural product without the approval of government!

- Fines of up to $5,000,000.00 and/or seek 2 years in jail per incident of being caught breaking any of these newly implemented laws. This includes USING OR SELLING SUPPLEMENTS WITHOUT GOVERNMENT APPROVAL!

- YOU WILL LOSE ALL YOUR RIGHTS AND FREEDOM OF CHOICE REGARDING YOUR OWN PERSONAL USE OF SUPPLEMENTS and NATURAL MEDICINE IN CANADA!

No More Vitamin C, No More Omega-3, No More Oregano Oil, No More Natural Multivitamins, No more natural sleep aids, NO MORE HERBS, VITAMINS, MINERALS. No more choice in what YOU want to do for YOUR HEALTH!

It has been said that these kinds of actions were the first things to happen before the NAZIs gained power. Even if you aren't interested in taking supplements yourself, you should realize that these kinds of actions are leading our society away from democracy and into some kind of dictatorship run government where people are losing their personal power and allowing the government to do anything they want.

Some rumors surrounding bill C-51 is that it is being pushed ahead by pharmaceutical company funding that want complete control of the supplement market by making them prescription only. It's ALL ABOUT THE MONEY! They're VERY interested in you taking supplements, because if you do odds are less likely you'll need THEIR DRUGS. On top of this rumor has it that the Canadian minister of health himself has very large investments in pharmaceutical companies, further backing Bill C-51 so he himself can profit from it! The worst part is he is going out and telling the ill informed that it is in their best interests. People out there need to know the truth!

What can you do?
Let people know, the best thing you can do is spread the word about this issue. When major media begin to take this seriously and cover the story more, then we can prevent these very negative changes. Start a petition or sign one of the current ones going around. This is really happening people and if we don't try to stop it now we'll be paying for it in the years to come.

Help STOP BILL C-51 before it passes. ITS NOT TOO LATE! This is a very scary reality that would allow pharmaceutical drug companies complete control over the Canadian Health System. It will be the end of the entire natural health industry, and the end of peoples choice in how they want to take care of their own health!

Visit http://stopc51.com and http://nhppa.org to find out how you can stop this bill before it's too late!
 

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On the other side, people seem to not know better than to take those so called multi vitamins and expect them to make them healthier. A true vitamin deficiency should be treated by professionals, since the OTC stuff is too weak for that anyway. And taking vitamins without a deficiency will probably shorten your lifespan.
 

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I left Canada in 1980 because after 11 years of good old Pierre Elliot (commie)Trudeau the county was screwed. Dual languages, government wanted to own everything(petroleum industry, GST, etc. etc.). The hospitalization system may seem cheap compared to USA but keep in mind if you don't live in a city you practically have to have everything done in a city. My Mother who is 84 had to drive 225 miles to a major city to get an operation she had waited for 6 weeks. The government(Canada) has to have total control. What is this little boondoggle going to cost the tax payers? Will this be just like their 3 million dollar gun registration plan, which turned into 3 billion dollar tax payer black hole. The system was so screwed up even the government finally threw the towel in. What's next socialized snack food industry regulations, by prescription only?
 

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On the other side, people seem to not know better than to take those so called multi vitamins and expect them to make them healthier. A true vitamin deficiency should be treated by professionals, since the OTC stuff is too weak for that anyway.
No, a true vitamin deficiency should not be treated by professionals unless it gets to the point where you are severely ill. 'Professionals' tend to shove harmful chemicals into our possession because they 'work' (ie: anti-depressants, sleeping pills, tranquilizers). Unless you go to a natural nutritionist, you are only setting yourself up to be drugged.

It should be treated by eating healthy and supplements can aid in that. What you should not do is take supplements such as One a Day or Centrum. Anything that adds all of those extra additives to it is not going to make much difference (if any) to your health. Proper vitamins, in the correct amounts, can be quite beneficial. What people need to do is get off their fat lazy asses and start doing research for themselves instead of relying on the medical community to give them the right information. Remember, those doctors get bonuses for selling you drugs...

And taking vitamins without a deficiency will probably shorten your lifespan.
I'm interested to see where you get that information. What kind of vitamins were the tests done with? How long were people on those vitamins that they could determine it could shorten their lifespan. What kind of eating habits did these people have? Whatever you can give me on your findings, I would be very interested to read. I agree there is such a thing as overtaking vitamins but most of our foods are so lacking in vitamins/minerals nowadays due to the soil lacking nutrients and chemicals that are sprayed on the foods. Unless you are growing all you eat, it is doubtful that you are completely without deficiency.
 
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The information comes from JAMA, so I guess you don't see it as valid.

Where you live must be really different from here, because most doctors here will NOT prescribe sedatives and sleep meds, even if you need them badly! My country is benzophobic big time.

I've had a B12 deficiency, and that does not stem from food intake, but lack of uptake. The lowest dosage you need 1000 mg a day. A health store might be able to provide you with 100 mg pills best case. Also they tend to be much bigger than the pharmaceutical type. Taking 10 of those giant pills a day, no, I pass! Also, I wouldn't know about the deficiency if I hadn't been tested. I would just wonder why I was sick. And no, they actually just treated the vitamin thing, they didn't give me anything else.

A lot of the food is fortified, and despite this, people take the same vitamin in pill form. If you think OD'ing on vitamins is healthy, it's your choice.

It's true that modern food is rather washed out of nutrients. But if you want to take vitamin supplements I suggest you really think about what you already get through food, and what you really need to take in pill form. A multivitamin doesn't cover your true needs. It will most likely OD you in some areas, and under treat you in others.
 

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The information comes from JAMA, so I guess you don't see it as valid.

Where you live must be really different from here, because most doctors here will NOT prescribe sedatives and sleep meds, even if you need them badly! My country is benzophobic big time.
No need to get so defensive :eek: Put your socks back on ;) I simply wanted to know where you got your info from. I would like a link. I've never heard of JAMA so I wouldn't judge whether or not your statement was valid until I did the research. I'm not dumb and I'm not naive either so I like to see proof of things before I buy into them as truth. I'm sure you're the same way.

And yes, in American and Canada, doctors are drug happy. If you go to them with a vitamin deficiency, they will have you walking out with something else to treat some imaginary disease or 'problem' they think you have as well. It is very hard to find a doctor here who isn't motivated mostly by the drug companies rather than actually making their patients well.

A lot of the food is fortified, and despite this, people take the same vitamin in pill form. If you think OD'ing on vitamins is healthy, it's your choice.
I did mention overtaking vitamins. That is never wise either. However, I don't eat hardly any 'fortified' foods. Most of my food is fruits, vegetables, meat, and some starch/breads (but not much). The vitamins I take are fruit and vegetable based with no additives like a good majority of vitamins have in them. That is why I said people need to do their research and help themselves by eating healthy before relying on the medical community to fight simple deficiencies.

As for the B12 issue, I've known people with that problem and it makes them feel exhausted all the time. That is a somewhat common problem which I am convinced there is a natural fix for (it just hasn't been discovered yet). Since that is one that the natural fix hasn't been discovered, I would recommend getting the B12 shots so that the vitamin goes to where it needs to instead of just running out of your body as waste.
 

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we have 1000mg B12 here at the grocery store. good quality products. www.naturessunshine.com has some of the highest quality herbs and vitamins available. yes our dr.s do get compensated for prescribing unneccesary drugs all the time, especially anti depressants and anti-psychotics, and a big problem with that is that if you have been diagnosed with some of those things you can't buy a gun! you can eat more beef to get B12 btw...however if it isn't locally grown i would bet it has hormones added.
 

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we have 1000mg B12 here at the grocery store. good quality products. www.naturessunshine.com has some of the highest quality herbs and vitamins available. yes our dr.s do get compensated for prescribing unneccesary drugs all the time, especially anti depressants and anti-psychotics, and a big problem with that is that if you have been diagnosed with some of those things you can't buy a gun! you can eat more beef to get B12 btw...however if it isn't locally grown i would bet it has hormones added.
LOVE Natures Sunshine. I used to be a distributor but moved and couldn't get the customers anymore.

Vitamin supplements don't work for people like Speedofl33t though. There is a problem with the way she processes the vitamin. Instead of it being sent through the correct channels in her body, it gets disgarded as a waste. That's why I said that there has to be a natural fix to it. I wish I knew what that was because I've known others with that same problem.

Speedofl33t, you are vegetarian aren't you?
 

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http://jama.ama-assn.org/cgi/content/abstract/297/8/842

When I was a kid the attitude was more the better, vitamins can never harm you. I know some people still live by that and never analyzed their true intake. For once, milk here is fortified with vitamin A! I know that is not common elsewhere, but stuff like that makes me shudder. They are trying to see if that huge intake, people here consume a lot of milk, has anything to do with our areas tendency for osteoporosis. I don't mind if well educated people take supplements. But the general attitude about vitamins as ttally harmless has to go.

On the other hand, really dangerous stuff like Tylenol, is sold OTC. No one would like to take that away. Still, it's one of the most dangerous things to OD on.
 

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I am a..... what?

No way!

Hahaha. Ok. I thought I had read somewhere that you were. I guess not :D

And thanks for the link. When I have a little more time I'll have to read over the tests. There were a lot of links to other tests at the bottom.
 

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What you want man? I got A, C, E, B12 and E. You ain't a cop are you?

Word in some circles, commonly considered tin foil hat circles, is that by 2012 nutrients will be classified by the WHO and other government run health organizations as being poisonous and harmful and thus banned. There is no doubt in my mind this may very well happen. I can see the idiots at the FDA buying into some study that says so. Afterall, it is the FDA that allows rat poison to be sold under the name of Aspertame as a sugar-free sweetener.

When the time comes that nutrients are banned I expect to be able to buy them just as easily as any other banned drug. Dealers have won the war on drugs and I expect the banned nutrients to be available through every corner dope boy.
 

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It's really weird about aspartame. Market here tries to stay ahead of the trend though, and is replacing stuff with aspartame with other more natural sweeteners. I ran into someone who drinks 3 liters of aspartame coke a day. But I think that is a whole new thread...
 

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Where you live must be really different from here, because most doctors here will NOT prescribe sedatives and sleep meds, even if you need them badly! My country is benzophobic big time.

Yet here they hand out speed and downers like they were chewing gum......



Follow the money on the Vitamin C thing....they want to regulate it here too.
Been tried.
 

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It's weird thought that sedatives are prescribed readily, since most of them are old and without patent. Like for instance Valium, that is dirt cheap. The real profit is in new meds where they can easily want 3 dollars a pill!
 
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