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URGENT ACTION ALERT ITEMS!

Democrats delayed getting this information out until Friday afternoon intentionally!

There are a series of extremely bad gun-control bills to be heard on Monday at 8 AM in the Senate Judiciary Committee:

General Assembly Building
Senate Room A
9th and Main Streets in Richmond


ACTION ITEM #1:

We need a large turnout to flood the room with GSL stickers and we need to be there early to get seats! This is where the rubber meets the road!

NEW RULE: GUNS ARE NOT ALLOWED NOW INSIDE THE BUILDING, EVEN IF YOU HAVE A CHP.


ACTION ITEM #2:

We need to absolutely bombard the Judiciary Committee's email! Click on this link to send a prewritten email to the Judiciary Committee:

https://oneclickpolitics.global.ssl.fastly.net/messages/edit?promo_id=7553



ACTION ITEM #3:

Spread this alert and that link far and wide!
 

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Yeah, I got that same email from the VCDL (got my membership card Friday, woo hoo! My membership number was over 123,000. I hope that number is indicative of the membership). I hope they flood that Judiciary Committee. Monday.

I repeat my previous comment, The counties have to form militias NOW. These people will ignore crowds, no matter how large. Virginians needs to make them physically fear them. Force the Feds to step in and tell the State to back off because they are formulating a condition that will lead to violence. It is past time that we need to physically confront them
 

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I used PopVox after Sandy hook to help stop a gun bill .
https://www.popvox.com/


It is a very simple free way to send a message to legislators.
It shows all the bills (and you can read the bill info and who introduced it, who supports and who opposes it), and you can send letters to all of your representatives in congress.
It requires your real name though, to make sure you are a real person and so that it can send your message to the right reps.

What I did was put a message in the comment section of all the gun youtube channels, and any other social media, asking everyone to get on there and make their wishes known and little primer on how to use it.

I put my little message on channels that had millions of views in total.
The very next day, the news said due to a lightning storm of negative mail, the bill will not be presented for consideration.

This bill was going to be pushed in Illinois state legislature .

Killed it dead.
 

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Looks like Virginia plans to push their insanity even further than the UK government..




https://www.naturalnews.com/2019-11...tsi-kickboxing-firearms-instruction-sb64.html
The article is pushing half-truths. The training is only illegal if it is intended to be in furtherance of civil disorder. So if you are training Antifa, its illegal. If you are merely learning it for your own self defense, its perfectly legal. Read the bill yourself:

https://lis.virginia.gov/cgi-bin/legp604.exe?201+ful+SB64
 

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The article is pushing half-truths. The training is only illegal if it is intended to be in furtherance of civil disorder. So if you are training Antifa, its illegal. If you are merely learning it for your own self defense, its perfectly legal. Read the bill yourself:

https://lis.virginia.gov/cgi-bin/legp604.exe?201+ful+SB64
The legislature as written is sensible, interpretation by law enforcement might get tricky.
 

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URGENT ACTION ALERT ITEMS!

Democrats delayed getting this information out until Friday afternoon intentionally!

There are a series of extremely bad gun-control bills to be heard on Monday at 8 AM in the Senate Judiciary Committee:

General Assembly Building
Senate Room A
9th and Main Streets in Richmond


ACTION ITEM #1:

We need a large turnout to flood the room with GSL stickers and we need to be there early to get seats! This is where the rubber meets the road!

NEW RULE: GUNS ARE NOT ALLOWED NOW INSIDE THE BUILDING, EVEN IF YOU HAVE A CHP.


ACTION ITEM #2:

We need to absolutely bombard the Judiciary Committee's email! Click on this link to send a prewritten email to the Judiciary Committee:

https://oneclickpolitics.global.ssl.fastly.net/messages/edit?promo_id=7553



ACTION ITEM #3:

Spread this alert and that link far and wide!
This needs to go directly to the Supreme Court -- STAT!
 

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The article is pushing half-truths. The training is only illegal if it is intended to be in furtherance of civil disorder. So if you are training Antifa, its illegal. If you are merely learning it for your own self defense, its perfectly legal. Read the bill yourself:

https://lis.virginia.gov/cgi-bin/legp604.exe?201+ful+SB64
Once the criminal gang passes illegal gun control laws and militia organization increases, militia training will be said by the same traitors that passed the gun control laws to be "intended to be in furtherance of civil disorder," since the patriots will be intending to bring the criminal gang to justice for their crimes. Do you really think that those who can read the 2nd Amendment and think their gun control laws are ok will say militia training is not being done to promote criminality?

This needs to go directly to the Supreme Court -- STAT!
I do not have faith in the Court to uphold the law; I think that body has been totally corrupted. But if this does go to the high court, I would rather it be done after Ginsberg dozes off for the last time and is replaced by Trump with a loyal American. Even then though I have little faith in the Court to uphold the law. (But I hope I'm wrong.)

Likewise, I do not think our political system can restore freedom in America. I think while patriots slept a committed enemy built a powerful political war machine, and patriots simply do not have the numbers to stop it. If freedom is ever restored in America, it will come by the hand of the militia.

Any government entity that passes or imposes illegal gun control edicts is in violation of the law and is therefore not a legitimate lawmaking entity; it is in effect a criminal gang, and as such it has no legal authority.

Patriots have a right and duty to arrest the criminal gangs and bring them to justice. And if the cold war between liberals and patriots turns hot, as appears likely when a spark is lit in Virginia, patriots must do their duty. If they don't, you can be sure that the American Republic will die a slow and painful death.

We should remember that an attack against the Virginia militia is an attack against all patriots. As the saying goes, we either hang together or we hang separately. If this treason is allowed to stand, it will grow, until it engulfs the entire nation.
 

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I do not have faith in the Court to uphold the law;
This is part of the reason we are in the trouble that we are seeing today. The Supreme Court is supposed to be the deciding factor as to what is constitutional and what is not. That means that it is their job to interpret the law and the Constitution and say whether that law is either Constitutionally sound or it is not. The problem arises because they are supposed to be unbiased and leave politics out of it. But just by the very first Gun Control law, You can see that is not the case. They are as much traitors as those that would design all Unconstitutional laws to begin with. Politics have no place in the Supreme Court.
 

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This is part of the reason we are in the trouble that we are seeing today. The Supreme Court is supposed to be the deciding factor as to what is constitutional and what is not. That means that it is their job to interpret the law and the Constitution and say whether that law is either Constitutionally sound or it is not. The problem arises because they are supposed to be unbiased and leave politics out of it. But just by the very first Gun Control law, You can see that is not the case. They are as much traitors as those that would design all Unconstitutional laws to begin with. Politics have no place in the Supreme Court.
I think the origin of the Supreme Court corruption was the passage of the 17th Amendment. Once the Senate became a political body it became a foregone conclusion that the Court would follow suit.

But even without the 17th Amendment, enough fools willing to elect lawless legislators will ultimately lead to the same end. Those who have no respect for the law and who see the law as a barrier to their agenda will not appoint or consent to judges who will uphold the law.
 

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When Democrats won control of Virginia’s state government for the first time in 26 years in November 2019, they pledged to pass a series of standard gun control laws, including universal background checks and bans on military-style “assault weapons” and high-capacity ammunition magazines. The agenda was no surprise: state Democrats had run for office on a platform of gun violence prevention, backed by funding from national gun control groups.



Some of these activists have warned of violenceif Democrats push forward with gun control. Multiple Democratic lawmakers have reportedly received threats, including death threats.

https://www.fauquier.com/news/deleg...cle_0d035899-26be-5a70-af0c-acce5175375f.html

At heated public meetings across the state and in long social media comment threads, some gun rights supporters are openly discussing the possibility of civil war. Many have warned of the need to fight back against “tyranny” or have compared Democratic lawmakers to the British forces during the revolutionary war. “I really do think we may be on the brink of another war,” one speaker told a crowd of at least 800 people in Pulaski county, the Roanoke Times reported.

Here’s the thing, though. This talk of a civil war isn’t new. We’ve been talking about this for years as a warning that if anti-gun zealots come after our guns, they’re going to have a bad time of it.

This is nothing new.

However, it’s also important to note that we’ve also been pretty clear that there’s a line in the sand and, thus far, no one has crossed it. Right now, bills have only been proposed. Nothing’s passed and nothin’s signed. It’s just a lot of rhetoric. As long as Northam and company bear in mind that this is a topic that yes, a lot of people will go to war over, we shouldn’t have a problem.

We on this side have been clear about what will set us off. The problem is that Northam and company don’t seem to really care to listen. There’s been nothing from his side to tell Virginian gun rights activists that their concerns will be accounted for. Instead, we’re seeing a lot of “we won, you lost, suck on it.”

Yes, there are warnings of civil war, but that war isn’t inevitable. It’s up to Northam, though, to decide if he really wants to push people so far that they don’t feel they have any other choice. It’s all on him and his allies in the legislature.

It’s not too late to settle things down.

https://bearingarms.com/tom-k/2020/01/11/warning-civil-war-this-isnt-new/
 

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When Democrats won control of Virginia’s state government for the first time in 26 years in November 2019, they pledged to pass a series of standard gun control laws, including universal background checks and bans on military-style “assault weapons” and high-capacity ammunition magazines. The agenda was no surprise: state Democrats had run for office on a platform of gun violence prevention, backed by funding from national gun control groups.



Some of these activists have warned of violenceif Democrats push forward with gun control. Multiple Democratic lawmakers have reportedly received threats, including death threats.

https://www.fauquier.com/news/deleg...cle_0d035899-26be-5a70-af0c-acce5175375f.html

At heated public meetings across the state and in long social media comment threads, some gun rights supporters are openly discussing the possibility of civil war. Many have warned of the need to fight back against “tyranny” or have compared Democratic lawmakers to the British forces during the revolutionary war. “I really do think we may be on the brink of another war,” one speaker told a crowd of at least 800 people in Pulaski county, the Roanoke Times reported.

Here’s the thing, though. This talk of a civil war isn’t new. We’ve been talking about this for years as a warning that if anti-gun zealots come after our guns, they’re going to have a bad time of it.

This is nothing new.

However, it’s also important to note that we’ve also been pretty clear that there’s a line in the sand and, thus far, no one has crossed it. Right now, bills have only been proposed. Nothing’s passed and nothin’s signed. It’s just a lot of rhetoric. As long as Northam and company bear in mind that this is a topic that yes, a lot of people will go to war over, we shouldn’t have a problem.

We on this side have been clear about what will set us off. The problem is that Northam and company don’t seem to really care to listen. There’s been nothing from his side to tell Virginian gun rights activists that their concerns will be accounted for. Instead, we’re seeing a lot of “we won, you lost, suck on it.”

Yes, there are warnings of civil war, but that war isn’t inevitable. It’s up to Northam, though, to decide if he really wants to push people so far that they don’t feel they have any other choice. It’s all on him and his allies in the legislature.

It’s not too late to settle things down.

https://bearingarms.com/tom-k/2020/01/11/warning-civil-war-this-isnt-new/
I guess we will know in a few short hours....

The governor has stated MANY times in OPEN PRESS that he intends on taking this to the max! And his attorney general has also said that he WILL "enforce" these UNCONSTITUTIONAL and ILLEGAL "laws" to the max! Even USING LETHAL FORCE to back them up! (state police and national guard).

NOW is the time for no more talk. NOW is the time to see if the Socialist party will do what they have been threatening. And THIS will be the catalyst that sets things in motion ALL OVER THE NATION.
 

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(..from the other thread:

..Time to make a stand.
^ THIS. Because, I'm sure ya'll know this one: '..It may be that your highest purpose in life is to serve as a Warning to others'.. ;) Well... LEARN FROM US, out here in the - Once Great Republic of CA...

...You've GOT to Fight this with ALL YOU CAN, cause, once it's "law", it will be Very hard to de-entrench (just look at Us - and NO! - we did NOT all 'just let this happen' / deserve it - any more than Virginians did / do! The Enemies of Freedom that - somehow - managed to get themselves "elected" :rolleyes: on Both Coasts (..and, now, they're shooting for 'filling in the middle'..) are Who concocted / schemed / hoodwinked and sold this Totalitarian Propaganda ('common sense gun control' :rolleyes: to everyone - it's NOT 'all Californias fault'!

...There are, literally, MILLIONS of us, out here, that Abhor what was rammed down Our throats / what's become of this State / so many (otherwise) Good People out here (and the Proof of that, is the simple existence of the whole 'S o J 51' Movement - at All..) But, in spite of that, well.. Here we Are, with some of the Most draconian, Constitution-flipping-off Regs going (...and the 2A is the 'finger in the dike', against All the rest..) So...

..DO ALL YOU CAN TO FIGHT THIS... 'You could learn a lot from a dummy'.. :cool:

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Once the criminal gang passes illegal gun control laws and militia organization increases, militia training will be said by the same traitors that passed the gun control laws to be "intended to be in furtherance of civil disorder," since the patriots will be intending to bring the criminal gang to justice for their crimes. Do you really think that those who can read the 2nd Amendment and think their gun control laws are ok will say militia training is not being done to promote criminality?


I do not have faith in the Court to uphold the law; I think that body has been totally corrupted. But if this does go to the high court, I would rather it be done after Ginsberg dozes off for the last time and is replaced by Trump with a loyal American. Even then though I have little faith in the Court to uphold the law. (But I hope I'm wrong.)

Likewise, I do not think our political system can restore freedom in America. I think while patriots slept a committed enemy built a powerful political war machine, and patriots simply do not have the numbers to stop it. If freedom is ever restored in America, it will come by the hand of the militia.

Any government entity that passes or imposes illegal gun control edicts is in violation of the law and is therefore not a legitimate lawmaking entity; it is in effect a criminal gang, and as such it has no legal authority.

Patriots have a right and duty to arrest the criminal gangs and bring them to justice. And if the cold war between liberals and patriots turns hot, as appears likely when a spark is lit in Virginia, patriots must do their duty. If they don't, you can be sure that the American Republic will die a slow and painful death.

We should remember that an attack against the Virginia militia is an attack against all patriots. As the saying goes, we either hang together or we hang separately. If this treason is allowed to stand, it will grow, until it engulfs the entire nation.
I fully agree that everyone in D.C. is corrupt from one degree to another. But the Court is currently and mostly "Conservative" (even if in name only) and is likely the best chance Virginians have. In reality ... I trust zero individuals in government to fully comprehend, follow, and uphold the Constitution. We've seen even the most "Conservative" of them compromise on gun rights. Some push the red flag laws. Some ban gun accessories. Some push for stricter background checks. None are trustworthy in the long run.
 
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