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CNN - America for sale
It's not just Wall Street bailouts. Foreign ownership of U.S. assets is accelerating - and that's a worrisome trend

Foreign buyers set a record last year by purchasing $414 billion of U.S. assets



Businessweek - America for Sale
Foreign companies emboldened by a weak dollar are on the prowl for undervalued U.S. assets, and more deals are likely in the pipeline



LA Times - Mortgaging America
America's for sale. Just ask Treasury Secretary Henry Paulson.
...Paulson just spent four days touring the Middle East, hat in hand,...and encouraged them to buy American businesses.
This is economic globalization in its most raw form...

Phyllis Schlafly - Is America For Sale?
A federal agency known as CFIUS (Committee on Foreign Investment in the United States) is supposed to be guarding our national interests when foreigners seek to buy U.S. properties. CFIUS operates in secret, so the public is in the dark about its procedures.

CFIUS is apparently also in the dark about what the American public thinks and didn't foresee that the Dubai Ports deal would be controversial. Foreign purchase of U.S. infrastructure has been proceeding at a rapid pace both before and after the Dubai Ports flap.

The scholar Frank Gaffney discovered that "out of more than 1,500 cases of foreign acquisitions reviewed since 1988, CFIUS has only formally rejected one." Homeland Security admits that 80 percent of our 3,200 terminals nationwide are operated by foreign companies and countries.

In June, a Spanish firm paid $1.3 billion for a 50-year lease to operate a 10-lane toll road through the heart of Texas. The same month, an Australian company bought a 99-year lease on Virginia's Pocahontas Parkway.

Also in June, an Australian-Spanish partnership paid $3.8 billion to lease the Indiana Toll Road for 75 years. Last year, Chicago sold a 99-year lease on the eight-mile Chicago Skyway to the same buyer for $1.8 billion, and the tolls are expected to double.

Almost weekly, we learn about other American properties that have been sold or leased-long-term to foreign companies. The tolls from the U.S. side of the tunnel between Detroit and Windsor, Canada, belong to an Australian company.

Why the rush to sell our transportation systems to foreigners? Like most actions that are hard to understand, "follow the money" explains all.

State and local governments pocket the money up front and get to spend it here and now, so politicians can cover their runaway budget deficits and enjoy the political rewards of spending for new facilities. They ignore the fact that U.S. citizens must pay tolls to foreign landlords for the next two or three or even four generations.

The foreigners like the deals because they know that, unlike the rest of the world, American law enforces contracts and the U.S. government doesn't nationalize industries. The foreign companies can raise the tolls without having to cope with objections from local customers.

These deals leave a lot of unanswered questions. Texas ranchers are concerned about the use of eminent domain to cut a wide swath through their properties in order to build a very-limited-access corridor on which foreign trucks and trains will transport Chinese goods in sealed containers, uninspected until they reach Kansas City.

The Texas governor is already talking about more toll roads through Texas, north and south, east and west.

Indiana legislators are concerned that the Spanish firm could rake in $133 billion over the 75-year life of the Indiana toll road lease for which Indiana received only $3.8 billion.

The Indiana Governor is now seeking an I-69 toll road from Evansville to Indianapolis which critics claim will destroy vast Hoosier properties: 5,100 acres of farmland, 1,600 acres of forest, 140 acres of wetlands, 400 homes, 76 businesses, and 135 existing roads. A foreign company could collect tolls for decades into the future.

Orange County, California, was burned by its contract with a French company that bought part of state Route 91 for $130 million. When Orange County found that the fine print in the contract prohibited it from building more roads, it had to buy back the lease for $207.5 million.

The U.S. government blessed this rush to sell off American infrastructure on April 30, 1992, when the first President Bush signed Executive Order 12803 called "Infrastructure Privatization." It directed federal departments and agencies to encourage state and local governments to "privatize infrastructure assets."

Infrastructure assets were defined to include "roads, tunnels, bridges, electricity supply facilities, mass transit, rail transportation, airports, ports, waterways, water supply facilities, recycling and wastewater treatment facilities, solid waste disposal facilities, housing, schools, prisons, and hospitals."

Bush's order didn't put any restrictions on who the purchasers could or should be, American or not, or friend or foe. The second President Bush is now acquiescing in European Union demands to open up U.S. airlines to foreign ownership. Is America for sale?
'Fraid so. It's being sold right out from under us.
 

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Anhueser Busch was sold off to Belguim owned inBev. Now they are the largest brewer in the world. Next up, the Auto Industry.
 

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My favorite is..."Spanish firm could rake in $133 billion over the 75-year life of the Indiana toll road lease for which Indiana received only $3.8 billion."

That's like selling a house worth $1,000,000 for $28,000.

So we're paying foreign conglomerates to drive on our own roads built maintained and payed for by our own money.

This government is selling off what they don't own. Who do they work for again?
 

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From another thread:

"dilusion" you say? well if the United States is not the most powerful country in the world....then who is, hmm?

the last time America had a Democratic White House, the nation finished with an economic surplus and a military with it's highest retention rate since before WWI. you think the world doesn't remember that? you think the world doesn't look to America to not only fix the problems created by the Bush Administration and the problems the world faces today? when a country is in economical, or para-military distress, who do they turn to?

That's what I meant by "Powerful" - I was using the term politically. Actually having the ability to quickly create political impact around the world. Though the Bush Administration got it wrong, nations all across the globe rest easy with the confidence that the Obama Administration will get it right. Look at the videos of citizens in Kenya, India, China, Thailand, Nepal, even Uganda - one of the most economically distrought civilizations known to man - dancing in the street when "globalists" took over the white house. those celebrations took place because their people have confidence in "one-world conglomerate" they've apparently seen on the horizon.

Merriam-Webster dictionary defines power as "the ability to produce an effect; capacity for being acted upon or undergoing an effect". that's what i meant by "powerful".

where did you study politics? oh that's right, you didn't say. nevermind.

By the way, I joined the Army on May 3, 2005 an commissioned as an officer on May 10, 2008. Those "American patriots" you speak of joined the military of their own free will, without mental reservation, or draft. they served just as freely, and chose to unconditionally serve the Commander in cheif just as I have. the Army - military might for that reason - is all politics. even you should know that. and signing your name on that line means you relinquish you political power to the President regardless of the situation.
Let's step back and take stock of where we are as a nation today shall we?

Who really owns the US?



52.37% is owned by the Federal Reserve...the Fed owned and controlled by INTERNATIONAL bankers.

25.52% owned by other foreigners and international holdings.

So the United States of America is a mere 22% owned by Americans...and dropping.

You talk about "the most powerful nation on the planet"....who really wields that power? Americans? No.

George W. Bush got NOTHING wrong. People assume stupidity and incompetence. This is too kind an assessment. GWB IS a globalist who follows the globalist agenda. Remember daddy's NWO speeches?

Is "The Patriot Act" a piece of legislation intended to benefit the American people? Or does it undermine the American Constitution? IT BENEFITS THE GLOBALIST AGENDA.

Does NAFTA benefit the American people? IT BENEFITS THE GLOBALIST AGENDA.

Do open borders benefit the American people? IT BENEFITS THE GLOBALIST AGENDA.

Does the sale of our industry, businesses, property and roads benefit the American people? IT BENEFITS THE GLOBALISTS.

Democrat or Republican matters not. They are both inundated with the globalist agenda, as proven by their actions. They didn't tell you that in Political Science class did they?

The "American patriots" I speak of are ALL Americans who are willing to defend their country, military uniform or not.

Do you really believe we would have a prayer if China decided to invade? Even with millions of armed Americans, China has a standing army of 100,000,000, they are organized and we aren't, and they have the bulk of our manufacturing base and tooling (thanks to the globalists in DC). Yes, we have the nuclear capability to destroy the world many times over, but we nuke them, they nuke us, game over, nobody wins. God forbid they team up with Russia.

Put a fork in it buddy. We're just about done.
 

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Do you think that you own the land that you live on....even if you have a deed?
You don't. You have the privilege of usage....with a fee...property taxes. And the taxes are, what ever they say it is. And you will pay it, or they will take it.

If you want to build a house, put up a shed, or a barn or drill a well for water....you will be obligated to get permission from the masters and pay a fee for that permission. If they say that the land does not meet their criteria, then you will be denied permission to drill your well or build your barn. And the beauty of it is that they create the requirements. They make the rules and can change them on a whim to suit their purposes.

Then your land will be improved.....for their benefit and they will charge you more to live on that land in the way of a new assessment on that property...higher taxes because it has now become more improved for them.

If you try to make a living off of that land....you will be taxed on any income you obtain from your labor. Because your labor is their business and you should only be making money for them and not yourself.

Make no mistake about it. Our land has new Kings, and we are serfs. We will be obligated to fight their wars. If we do not join voluntarily we will be coerced and finally conscripted.

We will be obligated to accept their laws or face fines and imprisonment if we don't.

We will pay homage (taxes) to our masters for the privilege of using their roads. Serfs need only travel within a 25 mile radius of where we live anyway. If you don't believe that, just look at how difficult they have made air travel.

We are obligated to educated our children in schools where the lessons will be what 'they' chose in a time and place designated by them. Education is what they say it is.

America is bankrupt. Financially, morally and spiritually. WE OWN NOTHING....but we owe everything. We have sold our souls to the middle men who are nothing more than mouthpieces for the devil...the money makers, the bankers in exchange for Mcmansions and Starbucks. The ONLY collateral America has is LAND. That's it. And eventually the devil will come to collect...he will call in our debts. And our land will be divvied up amongst other nations.

We are a people without a nation to call our own.
 

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"dilusion" you say? well if the United States is not the most powerful country in the world....then who is, hmm?

... "Powerful" - I was using the term politically. Actually having the ability to quickly create political impact around the world. Though the Bush Administration got it wrong, nations all across the globe rest easy with the confidence that the Obama Administration will get it right. Look at the videos of citizens in Kenya, India, China, Thailand, Nepal, even Uganda - one of the most economically distrought civilizations known to man - dancing in the street when "globalists" took over the white house. those celebrations took place because their people have confidence in "one-world conglomerate" they've apparently seen on the horizon.

when a country is in economical, or para-military distress, who do they turn to?
Merriam-Webster dictionary defines power as "the ability to produce an effect; capacity for being acted upon or undergoing an effect". that's what i meant by "powerful".

So, by political power, you mean the ability to excite the citizens of third-world counties?

Other governments know we're broke - hell, they own us. They know who holds power in the 'financial security' sense.

Were the citizens "dancing in the streets" for thier confidence in a one-world conglomerate exactly? Does your formal education bring you to that conclusion?

You make an argument for political power, disregard other governments views of our stability as a political power, then support your opinion with statements about the citizens of third-world counties and your presumed reasons for their celebration.

Do you think the average citizen is as well-advised politically as it's government as to what's "truly" going on in their own country, much less in the United States and it's position [of power] globally?

Few Americans even realize the dire straits our own country is in!

where did you study politics? oh that's right, you didn't say. nevermind.
If you bothered to come down off your high-horse and actually read some of his posts, you discover he's quite the student indeed.
 

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The financially strong eat the weak. Its capitalism.
Now it backfires..

I am glad we have a protectionist government that place limitations on foreign purchases of norwegian industry and natural rescources.
 

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The financially strong eat the weak. Its capitalism.
Now it backfires..

I am glad we have a protectionist government that place limitations on foreign purchases of norwegian industry and natural rescources.
yeah but your country is "communist and socialist and no good"

america is wonderful because of our great tax system and capitalism.

haven't you been listening to the mouthbreathers on the forum?
 

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yeah but your country is "communist and socialist and no good"

america is wonderful because of our great tax system and capitalism.

haven't you been listening to the mouthbreathers on the forum?
His country doesn't have as many deadbeats as America does.
 

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The financially strong eat the weak. Its capitalism.
Now it backfires..

I am glad we have a protectionist government that place limitations on foreign purchases of norwegian industry and natural rescources.
We used to have those protections in place as well. The downfall of our Republic isn't due so much to "capitalism" as it is allowing international banking interests to gain control of our currency, run our economy, and in so doing gain lordship over us. We were fattened up and now being fleeced and sold to the highest bidder.
 

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We used to have those protections in place as well. The downfall of our Republic isn't due so much to "capitalism" as it is allowing international banking interests to gain control of our currency, run our economy, and in so doing gain lordship over us. We were fattened up and now being fleeced and sold to the highest bidder.
Well, actually.. That is capitalsm..
Protectionism are socialist properties.. Capitalists don't like stuff like that..
Capitalism isn't about national interest, peoples well being or any other crap like that. Capitalism is about creating dividend for the share holders, and nothing else!
 

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Well, actually.. That is capitalsm..
Protectionism are socialist properties.. Capitalists don't like stuff like that..
Capitalism isn't about national interest, peoples well being or any other crap like that. Capitalism is about creating dividend for the share holders, and nothing else!
Capitalism, (or private wealth ownership) works fine in a Republic, as we proved over the last 200 years, as long as the Republic contains certain protections against corporate monopolies running amok. As, in a Republic this IS something that must be guarded against. As I said, once foreign interests gain control of the republic, the nation is kaput.

"I hope we shall crush in its birth the aristocracy of our moneyed corporations which dare already to challenge our government to a trial of strength and bid defiance to the laws of our country."
Thomas Jefferson

"I see in the near future a crisis approaching that unnerves me and causes me to tremble for the safety of my country...corporations have been enthroned and an era of corruption in high places will follow, and the money of the country will endeavor to prolong its reign by working upon the prejudices of the people until all wealth is aggregated in a few hands and the Republic is destroyed. I feel at this moment more anxiety for the safety of my country than ever before, even in the midst of war."
Abraham Lincoln

This is the downside of Capitalism.

The upside is competition, free thought, invention, and prosperity to those who excel.
 

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I believe TOM Jefferson said something along the lines warning America about the dangers of central banking that our children will end up homeless on the shores of this country,bought and paid for in blood by their forefathers, if we ever let merchnts and bankers sieze control of goverment for their only loyalty is to gold. If i have mispoke please feel free to correct me of my Ignorance.
 

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I believe TOM Jefferson said something along the lines warning America about the dangers of central banking that our children will end up homeless on the shores of this country,bought and paid for in blood by their forefathers, if we ever let merchnts and bankers sieze control of goverment for their only loyalty is to gold. If i have mispoke please feel free to correct me of my Ignorance.
You are correct sir. Here is the exact quote.

"I believe that banking institutions are more dangerous to our liberties than standing armies. If the American people ever allow private banks to control the issue of their currency, first by inflation, then by deflation, the banks and corporations that will grow up around [the banks] will deprive the people of all property until their children wake-up homeless on the continent their fathers conquered. The issuing power should be taken from the banks and restored to the people, to whom it properly belongs."

Thomas Jefferson
 

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For those of us who are libertarian and pro free market, what is wrong with this privitization as long as the states were getting fair deals? I don't like the idea of foreign ownership, but if you embrace freedom and capitalism, can you really scoff at who owns what if it is a fair and square deal?
 
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