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I voted for pro gun but the brits have gone wacky they dont want their rights back 53 percent said no to guns. But as a pole fore yesterday 83 percent thought the school should punish a kid for cutting a vw logo in his hair.

Sorry I think the nanny state has taken the responsibility to self away from the citizens.
 

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Shotguns & rifles (including semi-automatic). I believe the average person can purchase a semi-automatic rifle or shotgun in the UK, unlike here where you have to own land, be a hunter, farmer etc.

I was also told that they have no mag limit restrictions. Not sure if that's true or not.
Semi-auto in 22 or semi-auto shotgun. Don't need to own land, you just need a secure location to store it (gun cabinet) and somewhere safe to use it.

There are mag limits on shotgun certificates (3 rounds). On firearms licences (shotguns, rifles etc) there are no mag limits for any calibre.
 

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Is there absolutely no way for a civilian to obtain a handgun legally in the UK? I've heard certain older models are still legal.
You can own any type of handgun in Northern Ireland, The Channel Islands and The Isle of Man, there is no ban in these places. In the rest of the UK (England, Scotland and Wales), blackpowder handguns and long barrel pistols are still legal. Modern handguns can also be owned for humane dispatch of livestock.
 

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I left England ten years ago to get away from the liberal nanny state. It seems to be trying to follow me here to the USA. If I am not mistaken you can have an AR for example but you have to remove the gas system and cycle the bolt for each round.
 

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Semi-auto in 22 or semi-auto shotgun. Don't need to own land, you just need a secure location to store it (gun cabinet) and somewhere safe to use it.

There are mag limits on shotgun certificates (3 rounds). On firearms licences (shotguns, rifles etc) there are no mag limits for any calibre.
Thanks for the info. How long does it take to buy a firearm there?
 

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You can own any type of handgun in Northern Ireland, The Channel Islands and The Isle of Man, there is no ban in these places. In the rest of the UK (England, Scotland and Wales), blackpowder handguns and long barrel pistols are still legal. Modern handguns can also be owned for humane dispatch of livestock.
I've heard that Northern Ireland has lenient firearms laws. How does buying a firearm work there? Is there a waiting period like here, or can you just go into a gun shop and purchase one?
 

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I've heard that Northern Ireland has lenient firearms laws. How does buying a firearm work there? Is there a waiting period like here, or can you just go into a gun shop and purchase one?
The Northern Ireland licencing system for a firearms certificate is more or less the same as the rest of the UK. You have to demonstrate a "good reason" for each firearm you wish to own, i.e target shooting, hunting, collecting, in rarer circumstances personal protection. Once the authority for said firearm has been granted on your certificate, it is simply a matter of going into a shop and buying that type of firearm. No waiting period per se, besides waiting for the police to process your firearms licence (which varies greatly depending on the individual police force and how much of a back log they might have).

One thing that is significantly stricter about Northern Ireland compared to the rest of the UK, is that crossbows and air guns require a firearms certificate (they are unlicenced in England, Wales and Scotland and can be bought by anybody over the age of 18).

Also the Northern Ireland licencing system differs slightly in that it has only one licence catergory, where as the rest of the UK has two catergories. As follows:

NI

- Firearms Certificate - Covers rifles (single shot, bolt action, lever action, .22 semi auto), all shotguns, handguns, air guns (including paintball guns iirc), crossbows, black powder weapons.

- No licence - Bows, slingshots, airsoft guns, blank firing guns.

Eng, Scot, Wales

- Firearms certificate - Covers rifles (single shot, bolt action, lever action, .22 semi auto), high capacity and detachable magazine shotguns, short barrel shotguns (<24 inch barrel, not semi-auto or pump action), high power air rifles (above 12ftlbs), black powder handguns, long barrel handguns, cannons with a bore over 2 inces (Yeah, you can't own a little .22 pistol, but you can own a cannon...)

- Shotgun certificate - Covers single/double barrel shotguns, semi-auto/pump/lever/bolt action shotguns with a non-detatchable magazine and a capacity of 3 or less rounds, smooth bore muskets, cannons with a bore less than 2 inches.

- No licence - Air rifles (<12ftlbs), air pistols (<6ftlbs), crossbows, bows, spearguns, slingshots, paintball guns, airsoft guns, blank firing guns.

Note, shotgun certificates are simpler to get than a firearms certificate, and the conditions upon them are less stringent, most notably, once you have a shotgun certificate, you a free to purchase as many of the firearms it covers as you like. You don't need to demonstrate any "good reason" for each gun, though registration is required.

So that's pretty much the basics of British/Northern Irish gun ownership, as far as I understand it (there are other details surrounding antiques/obsolete calibre weapons, and various exemptions and ambiguities in the law which I won't get into right now). Hope I haven't confused anybody too much.
 

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The Northern Ireland licencing system for a firearms certificate is more or less the same as the rest of the UK. You have to demonstrate a "good reason" for each firearm you wish to own, i.e target shooting, hunting, collecting, in rarer circumstances personal protection. Once the authority for said firearm has been granted on your certificate, it is simply a matter of going into a shop and buying that type of firearm. No waiting period per se, besides waiting for the police to process your firearms licence (which varies greatly depending on the individual police force and how much of a back log they might have).

One thing that is significantly stricter about Northern Ireland compared to the rest of the UK, is that crossbows and air guns require a firearms certificate (they are unlicenced in England, Wales and Scotland and can be bought by anybody over the age of 18).

Also the Northern Ireland licencing system differs slightly in that it has only one licence catergory, where as the rest of the UK has two catergories. As follows:

NI

- Firearms Certificate - Covers rifles (single shot, bolt action, lever action, .22 semi auto), all shotguns, handguns, air guns (including paintball guns iirc), crossbows, black powder weapons.

- No licence - Bows, slingshots, airsoft guns, blank firing guns.

Eng, Scot, Wales

- Firearms certificate - Covers rifles (single shot, bolt action, lever action, .22 semi auto), high capacity and detachable magazine shotguns, short barrel shotguns (<24 inch barrel, not semi-auto or pump action), high power air rifles (above 12ftlbs), black powder handguns, long barrel handguns, cannons with a bore over 2 inces (Yeah, you can't own a little .22 pistol, but you can own a cannon...)

- Shotgun certificate - Covers single/double barrel shotguns, semi-auto/pump/lever/bolt action shotguns with a non-detatchable magazine and a capacity of 3 or less rounds, smooth bore muskets, cannons with a bore less than 2 inches.

- No licence - Air rifles (<12ftlbs), air pistols (<6ftlbs), crossbows, bows, spearguns, slingshots, paintball guns, airsoft guns, blank firing guns.

Note, shotgun certificates are simpler to get than a firearms certificate, and the conditions upon them are less stringent, most notably, once you have a shotgun certificate, you a free to purchase as many of the firearms it covers as you like. You don't need to demonstrate any "good reason" for each gun, though registration is required.

So that's pretty much the basics of British/Northern Irish gun ownership, as far as I understand it (there are other details surrounding antiques/obsolete calibre weapons, and various exemptions and ambiguities in the law which I won't get into right now). Hope I haven't confused anybody too much.
Thanks for that. Appreciate it. Apart from the handgun restrictions in England, Wales and Scotland, the UK's and Northern Ireland's laws sound better than ours.
 

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I'd ask anyone reading this thread to vote pro gun on the daily mail site, its very unusual for a british political leader to be pro gun and Nigel Farage needs our support .

This also effects the states or australia because our anti gun people are linked with your anti gun people .

We need to start rolling back these sort of laws, not just wait for the bastards to bring in new ones taking away our rights all the time
 

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I don't see why anyone would NEED a hand gun in the UK unless for animal dispatch. I say banning hand guns is a good thing before we have insanity in our schools like in the USA. I don't want to see children having to carry/wear Kevlar/bullet protective vests etc to go to school.
 

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I left England ten years ago to get away from the liberal nanny state. It seems to be trying to follow me here to the USA. If I am not mistaken you can have an AR for example but you have to remove the gas system and cycle the bolt for each round.
My father did the same thing around 35-40 years ago and has the same impressions, when I was young and enticed by the idea of world travel I moved there and was enamored with living abroad, but after all of the shine of being abroad wore off and I began truly assimilate I became aware of the stark contrast in beliefs of America and Britain, way of thinking if you will, needless to say i hopped on a plane and came back home with a much greater appreciation of where I was born and why my dad had left, it's sad to see America now following the way the UK has been for a long time and am reminded of it every time I return for work or family. ..I guess long story short I feel for those of you still there and who have a sense of self reliance and personal drive and accomplishment, I really hope you get your rights back and that the government shows trust in its people and no longer rules to the lowest common denominator. I support you guys whole heartedly.
 

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Here is a great youtube from an Englishman on the topic.
he is pro gun by the way. Smartest guy on youtube in my humble opinion.


I'm an American. Not sure if I'm allowed to post here or not. If not, please feel free to delete my post.

Love this guy.
Steve Lee - Aussie singer .

Best of luck England. :)
 

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