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I foster children for the county and we have had a increase in children coming in because parents are slapped with a neglect charge for not providing proper nutrition. I have 3 in my care now for just that charge. The 3 were malnourished, they ate constantly for 2 weeks once they come to live with us. The parents received food stamps but they are only able to afford junk food that does not meet the childrens nutriotional requirments. Both of the parents lost there jobs when there company moved over seas, it is sad to see these childrens family ripped apart just because they can't afford food.

The mother of the children is frusterated and doesn't know what to do. Should she allow her children to be adopted (she asked us if we would consider it) and know that they will be taken care of -or- does she take custody back and struggle to support them and risk them be taken again-meaning that there lives will be a constant struggle not knowing which end is up. Adoption is what usally takes place after these situations, but sadly the parents often make a choice to have another child to "replace" the child that they have "lost" -bringing another child into the same situation that the first was taken out of.

Many blame the foster parents for providing a place for the children. Should we as foster parents just turn the other cheek and not care to provide a safe place for these children to go until there parents can provide better? Are we the bad guys? The state pays foster parents $400+ to care for each child that comes into care, some ask why not give that to the parents to care for there own children-asnwer is most would not provide the nutrition needed and most likely spend it on there own needs and not there childrens. We as foster parents are constantly being checked on (each child's care coordinator must check in on them once every 3 weeks) and we must have food on the premisses to porvide for the children. We are required to provide appropriate attire for each child and each child must have there own bed and linens ( siblings are not allowed to share beds or linens).

There has to be another solution, states should help these family get back on there feet (if they have a legitimate reason for not being able to provide for there children).
 

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Now I really am crying. A lot these are better off with foster parents. I drove a cab for 5 years and I saw it all. People used to try to give me food stamps as cab fare or sell them to me for half price, while their kids were right there saying they were hungry. I had one woman bring her daughter with her while I drove her to the project to get her drugs. A lot of times it was when I was eating my lunch while driving. Guess who got my lunch? Her daughter was taken away from her and I read in the paper that the woman died. What REALLY pi$$ed me off is I used to get people in the cad who bragged about owning homes in Peurto Rico but came here for the welfare and sent money home. All the US fault. We took them over so they are citizrens. Keep up the good work RN. You're doing a great thing.
 

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them were the good old days before we had dangerous "socialism"!
You're a real piece of work FX. Actually, the Federal Reserve Act was one of the first pieces of legislation that went counter to the Constitution...a cause of the Great Depression.

Back to the thread...

That really is sad. Kudos to you for providing a good place for these kids to live. I hope you know what a great impact you are having on their lives rncmom!
 

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The parents received food stamps but they are only able to afford junk food that does not meet the childrens nutriotional requirments. Both of the parents lost there jobs when there company moved over seas, it is sad to see these childrens family ripped apart just because they can't afford food.
Crock.
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Sh*t.
I don't know how much NC gives in food stamps to a family with three kids but if all they were buying was junk food it's simply a case of the state giving morons money.
What happens when you give stupid people food stamps?
They buy junk food.
Either that or they sell them to get cash for McDogcraps.
I went through all of this with my niece several years ago.
She was getting $300 in food stamps in Tennessee when they were there.
She cried the same tune. Too much month not enough food stamp.
Crap.
50 # bag of flour $16.
2# bag of yeast $3.73
50# bag of white rice $30.
50# bag of pinto beans $22.
25# salt $ 4.59
10# sugar $5.00
Flat carton 20 eggs $3.59.
5# ground beef $8.88
6 pack 16 oz canned fruit cocktail $6.48
That's about $102.40 so far.
There's no junk food there.
Looking locally at whole chickens .99 #

I breifly looked at the amount of Federal food stamps a family can get there in NC and only found for a family of three is $408 monthly.
I can't imagine a family of five(3 kids) would get less.
I could feed three kids a well balanced three a day for $408 no problem.
And you are going to try and say all they could buy was junk food?
Give me a break.
Did the WIC program suddenly say for Spaghetti-os only?
Actually here they are restricted as to what you are allowed to buy with food stamps. Junk is off the list.
Maybe learn to fu**ing cook?

No, if those kids were malnourished the parents are too stupid to keep them.
 

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but sadly the parents often make a choice to have another child to "replace" the child that they have "lost" -bringing another child into the same situation that the first was taken out of.
That pisses me off.

some ask why not give that to the parents to care for there own children-asnwer is most would not provide the nutrition needed and most likely spend it on there own needs and not there childrens.
Exactly. It is not really a matter of money. A mojority of these parents could have plenty of money and still not care for their kids.

We as foster parents are constantly being checked on (each child's care coordinator must check in on them once every 3 weeks) and we must have food on the premisses to porvide for the children. We are required to provide appropriate attire for each child and each child must have there own bed and linens ( siblings are not allowed to share beds or linens).
Not to try to take away from what you do but I don't see why the people who monitor you could not monitor the parents.


[quote(if they have a legitimate reason for not being able to provide for there children).
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Oh they do. Obviously there are some people who have a string of bad luck. They should be helped in my opinion. But OFTEN they are uneducated ******** who come from a long line of educated ********. Their parents kept on poping out kids to bring in more money and they do the same. These are generational welfare families who do not help our society. Maybe that is a good reason for foster parents. You will be able to break the cycle and teach these kids how to be helpful to society or at least not a drain. Thank you for your work.

When state side I work in the special education field and as a behavioral specialist for just these types of families in a rural area.

them were the good old days before we had dangerous "socialism"!
In my experience it is proof that to much socialism is dangerous. It is the reason these families do this generation after generation after generation. Why get off welfare? Seriously Why? I see no reason. Anyone?

We need to break the cycle. As I said maybe good foster parents can help do that.

and brother buck is right. That kind of thinking is totally understandable and correct. When I was 11 my parents were divorced and it was just my mother and sister and I. Things were tough. We were on food stamps for probably six months. Our quality of food did NOT go down. Why because my mom was educated and new how to take care of a family. She was also out everyday looking for a job until she found one. Was it good. Hell no. I remeber she worked at some crap record store for a while. I can't even imagine how little she was making. Min wage obviously.

Lazy and dumb people really scare me. What are we supposed to do about them? The whole, "don't blame the kids" thing. Well, I don't blame the kids but survival of the fittest has to come into play somewhere. When? How many people do we just keep carrying? I don't have answers for any of these questions. It is just when I see one family generation after generation living like this it really frustrates me.

Thanks for your contribution rncmom and trying to do something to break the cycle.
 

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Crock.
Of.
Sh*t.
I don't know how much NC gives in food stamps to a family with three kids but if all they were buying was junk food it's simply a case of the state giving morons money.
What happens when you give stupid people food stamps?
They buy junk food.
Either that or they sell them to get cash for McDogcraps.
I went through all of this with my niece several years ago.
She was getting $300 in food stamps in Tennessee when they were there.
She cried the same tune. Too much month not enough food stamp.
Crap.
50 # bag of flour $16.
2# bag of yeast $3.73
50# bag of white rice $30.
50# bag of pinto beans $22.
25# salt $ 4.59
10# sugar $5.00
Flat carton 20 eggs $3.59.
5# ground beef $8.88
6 pack 16 oz canned fruit cocktail $6.48
That's about $102.40 so far.
There's no junk food there.
Looking locally at whole chickens .99 #

I breifly looked at the amount of Federal food stamps a family can get there in NC and only found for a family of three is $408 monthly.
I can't imagine a family of five(3 kids) would get less.
I could feed three kids a well balanced three a day for $408 no problem.
And you are going to try and say all they could buy was junk food?
Give me a break.
Did the WIC program suddenly say for Spaghetti-os only?
Actually here they are restricted as to what you are allowed to buy with food stamps. Junk is off the list.
Maybe learn to fu**ing cook?

No, if those kids were malnourished the parents are too stupid to keep them.


The amount of money depends on the income received and the extent of the need. A single father (currently uneployed-worked for Liberty Embroidery-sent to Mexico)of 2 children only receives around $85.00 a month 9 I know because I am a co card holder-I can buy his groceries if he is unable) so the amount that you found is not for every family. The person I refer to is a family friend that received custody of his children after his wife left them with the county DSS, he does provide for them with the help of his family and close friends.

We have the work first program here but it doesn't help those who really need help. I know how much good food costs and it costs far more than $500.00 a month to feed my 2 + us. The more nutritious the food the more it costs. It costs less to buy pre packed less nutrtious food than it costs to buy fresh wholesome good for you food. A frozen pizza $4.00 bucks a balanced meal $9.00, so at twice the price it is harder for some parents to be able to buy the food there children need to keep them healthy. I don't know personally how much this family receives but I have seen where they live and seen the car they drive -they are not living beyond there means. There home is smaller than my back porch and they have 1 bedroom that all share, they have a small black and white 13 tv, no real furniture (outdoore furniture), no dvd/vhs player, no movies, no spinning rims or expensive car, they are malnurished too so no they are not eating anymore than the kids, they have tested negative for any drug use -so they don't use there money for drugs. They have to live on less than $300.00 a month as far as unemployment, I don't know what I would do in there place. I use organic foods and they are almost twice the price of fresh produce and meats so half of my monthly bill would be $700.00 a month. No where near the fed amount.

I have to agree that most don't know how to cook, but neither does my husbands MOM and he made it just fine. He weighed 185 at 16 so he ate really good (didn't miss a meal). I know that the county has a restriction on what you can and can't buy but they only have alcohol and cigs on that list. A gallon of milk here almost $4.50 but a 2 liter pop $.59 cents and its on the approved list of buyable items. I guess for the amount of money that they receive they buy what they can.


*** I consider any food that is prepared and frozen junk food, it has less of the nutrtional value than it's fresh counterpart.***
 

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The more nutritious the food the more it costs.
Not if you know what you are doing.
And to figure that part out all one need to is learn.

It costs less to buy pre packed less nutrtious food than it costs to buy fresh wholesome good for you food. A frozen pizza $4.00 bucks a balanced meal $9.00, so at twice the price it is harder for some parents to be able to buy the food there children need to keep them healthy.
Yet people all over the world and that goes for here in USA as well do just that little thing everyday; and no a balanced meal is NOT $9.00.(using your organic logic maybe but your personal food standards are not relevant here)

My wife lived in Arkansas before we met and fed herself on less than $100 a month.($20 a week I think she once told me) I met her the week she moved to Kalifornia and she looked pretty healthy.
I have fed myself on slightly more and I haven't been under 200#s since I was 15.
This next part is interesting:
I don't know personally how much this family receives but I have seen where they live and seen the car they drive -they are not living beyond there means. There home is smaller than my back porch and they have 1 bedroom that all share, they have a small black and white 13 tv, no real furniture (outdoore furniture), no dvd/vhs player, no movies, no spinning rims or expensive car, they are malnurished too so no they are not eating anymore than the kids, they have tested negative for any drug use -so they don't use there money for drugs.
I get the idea this was meant as a preemptory attempt to retire the 'poor people don't own microwaves and fancy cars' argument that I had no intention of pursuing.
Either that or you are describing a couple of adults who had no business bearing one child much less three.
When you live buy the seat of your pants from paycheck to paycheck you should not have children.
Before anyone cries class discrimination, just don't it's not discrimination, it's common sense.


They have to live on less than $300.00 a month as far as unemployment, I don't know what I would do in there place. I use organic foods and they are almost twice the price of fresh produce and meats so half of my monthly bill would be $700.00 a month. No where near the fed amount.
First you say you don't know what they get then it's $300 + their Unemployment?
Which is it?

What you use and what they could are apples and oranges.
It does not take even $700 a month the feed that family with a little brain power and initiative put to use.
Just using the staples I listed, staples like the rice and beans in quantity you need only buy once a month, maybe just maybe every three weeks you have nutritional value enough that those kids would not have been starving.
So in light of $50 worth of bulk foods being enough to keep you from

I have to agree that most don't know how to cook, but neither does my husbands MOM and he made it just fine. He weighed 185 at 16 so he ate really good (didn't miss a meal). I know that the county has a restriction on what you can and can't buy but they only have alcohol and cigs on that list. A gallon of milk here almost $4.50 but a 2 liter pop $.59 cents and its on the approved list of buyable items. I guess for the amount of money that they receive they buy what they can.
Knowing how to cook is very important if you want to really stretch that money.
The idea that packaged foods are cheaper than real foods that require being made from scratch is BS.
I'm having a very very hard time believing soda pop is on a list of approved products to spend food stamps on.
As for the price of milk that is a whole 'nother point of contention for me.
You can thank corporate welfare for that with their protectionist minimum pricing laws

*** I consider any food that is prepared and frozen junk food, it has less of the nutrtional value than it's fresh counterpart.***
Well, the terminology is preferential and arguable. Much frozen and yes even some prepared foods are in fact quite adequate but in the long run they are less nutritious as well as more expensive.
And that is the heart of my argument.
You can live well....not extravagantly but well on one hell of a lot less money than some people want to claim.
I'm also thinking there is a bit more to this families story than we are being led to believe.
 

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As far as cost of food, I have to agree with brother buck again. Healthier food is not more money if you know what you are doing. NO WAY! Since university I have lived off 40 dollars a week for myself eating fresh vegitable every day. That is 160 dollars a month for a grown man. People just need ot learn how to shop. Rice mixed with fresh vegies and a little meat is cheap, easy and goes a long way!

My wife and I now set aside 400$ a month for food. We eat like kings with money left over to go out.
 

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been looking for a thread to put this video somewhere, it's a music video, not that long, worth the watch, it's by a group of rappers named dead prez, they are big, but not as big as they can be because the main stream refuses to put their stuff on the air because of the stuff they talk about, it looks like what is comin when food and other things we rely on become too expensive for us to afford, well here it is, tell me what you think

 

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Oh, mercy. He's talking about him being murdered but justifies committing crimes by saying ... he's just hungry, I've got no choice. Yeah, that's why a police officer is laying on the sidewalk rolling around in pain. I get so frustrated. These young people need guidance from parents but often the parents weren't raised to fight proverty so how can they teach the young. I remember about a year ago seeing a special on cable about young black people and how they were going to be different. How they were going to go to college and how nothing was going to stop them from success. By the end of the documentary all but 1 of the girls had a baby and several had 2 or more. One girl insisted she was going to be a doctor even though she barely spoke intelligent English, dropped out of school in the 10th grade and had 2 babies. She also said society didn't have a right to tell her how to live her life and it was obvious she had a bad attitude. I wish they had followed up on these girls. I suspect this girl is still dreaming big, doing little and blaming everyone else for her failure. Things like this make me sad for good, decent black folk and there are many of them. The thing that gets me is glorifying this kind of behavior. There are so many other races that try to emulate this kind of crap, who seem to think this kind of behavior is cool or desirable. There is nothing cool about killing a police officer, having babies while you're still a baby, bringing another generation into proverty and blaming everyone else for your choices instead of seeing what you can do to better yourself. It is not the race that I am worried about in a shtf situation. It is people in general acting this way. A lot of young people, no matter what the race seem to be adopting the attitude of if I want it, it's mine even if you have to die for it. I wish they would outlaw this kind of stuff. All it does is tear us down and divide the races even more. Then again, we'd have people screaming about their right to put all the filth out that they want to and frankly do we want some politician telling us we can't write these letters or post messages with our thoughts? Like I said in another post, if "they" keep us hating and fighting one another "they" - the super rich who rule this country - get to stay in their safe compounds behind locked gates and they get richer. That said. If someone came to my house and tried to hurt my family with this kind of attitude, they'd be dead and I wouldn't have a problem shooting them. I've always heard, back a man into a corner and he has no choice but to fight. Imo, these folks will fight and they claim they are backed into a corner BUT I don't see them talking (or rapping) about what to do so they are not backed into the corner. They act like it just happens - they have no personal responsibility. No. Their choices make it happen.
 

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First let me say that foster parents are great (when they are acting as they should and providing proper attention, love and care- as it absolutely sounds like you are.) However- a solution there would be quite simple. Give that money to the parents and do the same checking in on them as they currently do for foster parents. For those who fail to take care of their children after being provided assistance in this context- they should be jailed and the children removed permanantly. Assistance, accountability and consequence. Preferrably the parents would have that assistance to get through to being able to provide without it. (Like government scholarships to go back to school and subsidized childcare to get them there...) "Teach a man to fish...."


I foster children for the county and we have had a increase in children coming in because parents are slapped with a neglect charge for not providing proper nutrition. I have 3 in my care now for just that charge. The 3 were malnourished, they ate constantly for 2 weeks once they come to live with us. The parents received food stamps but they are only able to afford junk food that does not meet the childrens nutriotional requirments. Both of the parents lost there jobs when there company moved over seas, it is sad to see these childrens family ripped apart just because they can't afford food.

The mother of the children is frusterated and doesn't know what to do. Should she allow her children to be adopted (she asked us if we would consider it) and know that they will be taken care of -or- does she take custody back and struggle to support them and risk them be taken again-meaning that there lives will be a constant struggle not knowing which end is up. Adoption is what usally takes place after these situations, but sadly the parents often make a choice to have another child to "replace" the child that they have "lost" -bringing another child into the same situation that the first was taken out of.

Many blame the foster parents for providing a place for the children. Should we as foster parents just turn the other cheek and not care to provide a safe place for these children to go until there parents can provide better? Are we the bad guys? The state pays foster parents $400+ to care for each child that comes into care, some ask why not give that to the parents to care for there own children-asnwer is most would not provide the nutrition needed and most likely spend it on there own needs and not there childrens. We as foster parents are constantly being checked on (each child's care coordinator must check in on them once every 3 weeks) and we must have food on the premisses to porvide for the children. We are required to provide appropriate attire for each child and each child must have there own bed and linens ( siblings are not allowed to share beds or linens).

There has to be another solution, states should help these family get back on there feet (if they have a legitimate reason for not being able to provide for there children).
 

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Not if you know what you are doing.
And to figure that part out all one need to is learn.



Yet people all over the world and that goes for here in USA as well do just that little thing everyday; and no a balanced meal is NOT $9.00.(using your organic logic maybe but your personal food standards are not relevant here)

My wife lived in Arkansas before we met and fed herself on less than $100 a month.($20 a week I think she once told me) I met her the week she moved to Kalifornia and she looked pretty healthy.
I have fed myself on slightly more and I haven't been under 200#s since I was 15.
This next part is interesting:


I get the idea this was meant as a preemptory attempt to retire the 'poor people don't own microwaves and fancy cars' argument that I had no intention of pursuing.
Either that or you are describing a couple of adults who had no business bearing one child much less three.
When you live buy the seat of your pants from paycheck to paycheck you should not have children.
Before anyone cries class discrimination, just don't it's not discrimination, it's common sense.




First you say you don't know what they get then it's $300 + their Unemployment?
Which is it?

What you use and what they could are apples and oranges.
It does not take even $700 a month the feed that family with a little brain power and initiative put to use.
Just using the staples I listed, staples like the rice and beans in quantity you need only buy once a month, maybe just maybe every three weeks you have nutritional value enough that those kids would not have been starving.
So in light of $50 worth of bulk foods being enough to keep you from



Knowing how to cook is very important if you want to really stretch that money.
The idea that packaged foods are cheaper than real foods that require being made from scratch is BS.
I'm having a very very hard time believing soda pop is on a list of approved products to spend food stamps on.
As for the price of milk that is a whole 'nother point of contention for me.
You can thank corporate welfare for that with their protectionist minimum pricing laws



Well, the terminology is preferential and arguable. Much frozen and yes even some prepared foods are in fact quite adequate but in the long run they are less nutritious as well as more expensive.
And that is the heart of my argument.
You can live well....not extravagantly but well on one hell of a lot less money than some people want to claim.
I'm also thinking there is a bit more to this families story than we are being led to believe.

I never said I agreed with the way these people lived/spent there money. Yes they probally did make some bad choices and hopefully they can turn there world around and get there kids back (they truly do love these kids-they are trying harder than other parents to rework there budget and try to get there plan worked out). They live on less than $300 (unemployment) & I don't know how much Food stamps (the SS worker said not much-the $300 counts against the food stamps and reduces the amount).


As far as the cost of a meal

Perdue whole chicken $4.97 or Perdue pack thighs $4.97
Rice $1.00 for a 5 serving amount (store brand)
Asperagus $2.97 (store brand canned)


Just those 3 items $8.00

Add milk to that and it would be .56 per person or $2.81 for 5


(unless they are a member of sams club-there is nothing available over 10lbs in our local stores (Wal-mart, Food lion, Lowes foods)).

None of the above is Organic, even if you replace the Asperagus with another can of canned veges it only changes the price by $1.50.

They do have another option that has recently come available here in our town Angel Food Ministeries- they have been told about it and have signed up to receive the package. The package is a weeks worth of food for a family of 4 for $30.00 and they do take food stamps. The box includes meats & veges, carton of eggs, shelf stable milk and a desert.

Our local food bank has been restricting how many times you can come get food from them for the last year, it is currently once every 3 months. If you have been to another food bank they can turn you away (they communicate between each other). With resources dwindiling down it's gettin hareder and harder to get help here in this small town.

As far as more to the story, no there is no more. The family has no abuse/neglect history, the family and friends say that they just lost it when they lost there jobs. We have pictures of the children from last year and all were healthy (baby was fat), they go to there doctor reguarly(they have medicaid) one of them has asthma (the doctor is the one who alerted DSS-the children were loosing weight). They simply got in over there head and with no job couldn't get out.
 

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Oh, mercy. He's talking about him being murdered but justifies committing crimes by saying ... he's just hungry, I've got no choice. Yeah, that's why a police officer is laying on the sidewalk rolling around in pain. I get so frustrated. These young people need guidance from parents but often the parents weren't raised to fight proverty so how can they teach the young. I remember about a year ago seeing a special on cable about young black people and how they were going to be different. How they were going to go to college and how nothing was going to stop them from success. By the end of the documentary all but 1 of the girls had a baby and several had 2 or more. One girl insisted she was going to be a doctor even though she barely spoke intelligent English, dropped out of school in the 10th grade and had 2 babies. She also said society didn't have a right to tell her how to live her life and it was obvious she had a bad attitude. I wish they had followed up on these girls. I suspect this girl is still dreaming big, doing little and blaming everyone else for her failure. Things like this make me sad for good, decent black folk and there are many of them. The thing that gets me is glorifying this kind of behavior. There are so many other races that try to emulate this kind of crap, who seem to think this kind of behavior is cool or desirable. There is nothing cool about killing a police officer, having babies while you're still a baby, bringing another generation into proverty and blaming everyone else for your choices instead of seeing what you can do to better yourself. It is not the race that I am worried about in a shtf situation. It is people in general acting this way. A lot of young people, no matter what the race seem to be adopting the attitude of if I want it, it's mine even if you have to die for it. I wish they would outlaw this kind of stuff. All it does is tear us down and divide the races even more. Then again, we'd have people screaming about their right to put all the filth out that they want to and frankly do we want some politician telling us we can't write these letters or post messages with our thoughts? Like I said in another post, if "they" keep us hating and fighting one another "they" - the super rich who rule this country - get to stay in their safe compounds behind locked gates and they get richer. That said. If someone came to my house and tried to hurt my family with this kind of attitude, they'd be dead and I wouldn't have a problem shooting them. I've always heard, back a man into a corner and he has no choice but to fight. Imo, these folks will fight and they claim they are backed into a corner BUT I don't see them talking (or rapping) about what to do so they are not backed into the corner. They act like it just happens - they have no personal responsibility. No. Their choices make it happen.
funny how you talk about girls getting pregnant, know many girls who are pregnant of my friend's girlfriends who are pregnant, and i can't see how they will ever grow up, theres a 15 year old girl i met once from a few friends we were all just hanging around in the street and ran into her, she was pregnant and my friend told me that she had 2 babies already, kinda struck me in shock that people are soo dumb! i was showing this video because this is probably the immediate effect when shtf, and thats what the super rich want chaos so that they can bring in the army unit for crowd control. i can see where your coming from and i can agree, these rappers aren't like the ones you see on tv, these guys are very intelligent and know what they are talking about, they remind me more of the black panthers than anything else. i recently watched a movie called "the spook who sat by the door" came out in 73, and in the movie the main character said something that made alotta sense he was talking to a younger guy and said "this is not about hate white folks, it's about loving freedom enough to die or kill for it if necessary"
 

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Perdue whole chicken $4.97 or Perdue pack thighs $4.97
Rice $1.00 for a 5 serving amount (store brand)
Asperagus $2.97 (store brand canned)

None of the above is Organic, even if you replace the Asperagus with another can of canned veges it only changes the price by $1.50.
You actually sort of just made my point about bad decisions in food.
And those prices are inflated.
Asparagus? No one on welfare buys canned asparagus unless they are uber stupid.
Canned veg $1.59?
No.
Not hardly.
powdered milk is half the price and besides.
You don't need chicken for a nutritious meal.
It's demanding a menu like that that nukes the food stamps too fast.
Beans, rice, a little bread and some green vegetables and you are OK.
 

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just goes to show you that STUPID PEOPLE SHOULDN'T BREED

 

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i used to have a bumper sticker that said

"If you can't FEED em, don't BREED em!"

We had a neighbor that would constantly borrow stuff because she had 6 kids and her hubby just had a job at a resale shop. We used to help until one day she asked for $75 for groceries, they were broke because her husband spent his whole check on a stereo for his truck.... No, she did not get $75 from us...

But we got that bumper sticker for our car the next day....
 

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quote=Brother Buck;306527]You actually sort of just made my point about bad decisions in food.
And those prices are inflated.
Asparagus? No one on welfare buys canned asparagus unless they are uber stupid.
Canned veg $1.59?
No.
Not hardly.
powdered milk is half the price and besides.
You don't need chicken for a nutritious meal.
It's demanding a menu like that that nukes the food stamps too fast.
Beans, rice, a little bread and some green vegetables and you are OK.[/quote]

No those prices are not inflated, they are for Del mont / Hunts veges (store brands run about $1.20). Powdered milk is $9.47 for a 16 serving box (store brand). True you don't need chicken for a nutrious meal but you do need some sort of protein-chicken just happens to be the cheapest. While beans and rice may be ok for an adult, try giving it to children- They don't know they are starving when they say Yuck No I won't eat that. A demanding menu is Porter House steak, shrip skewer, loaded baked potato, green vege and a New york cherry cheescake with a bottle of wine. That would be a demanding menu that eats up food stamps quick.

As don't breed them if you can't feed them, they would have had to seen into the future to see the forcoming loss of there job and following inability to feed there children. It could happen to anyone, you can have your rug pulled out from under your feet at anytime.

I feel for the children of this family, they are the ones who have to pay the ultimate price. The family was planning to move in November to S Carolina Coast to help a relative run a local shop, but now they can't move until there case is closed and they have completed there probation. They will get there children back (probally within the month) and have to deal with the time they lost with them. They will be more fearful of the people they meet and be less trusting among peers (who could at anytime report them-with or without cause). The county is working on a budget and some part time work (haunted trail) to help them get on track. They will have hard times ahead but hopefully this experience will make them stronger.

Food prices are on the rise and you can't change the prices at the store. We don't have a choice unless we all grow our own food. No 2 states have the same prices, NC is about 10% higher than VA which is right over the border. Gas is running $2.89 there but $3.59 here. Wouldn't it be nice if every store had the same pries all over the US, then we wouldn't have to worry about who is paying more/less-we would all be s**t out of luck.

If you know of a family who is having a hard time feeding themselves tell them to contact Angel Food Ministries. They are not just for the poor they have no application and no min/max wage.

http://www.angelfoodministries.com




If you want to see the prices for our area here is the family size can (6 servings) of corn $1.99 regular size (3 serving) is $1.49Go to canned then veges then corn, while the store brand may be cheaper it is quality that you loose.

http://shop.mywebgrocer.com/shop.aspx?&sid=24479781&sid_guid=124da8ed-e8d1-4b76-94a1-eeb7acdee5ce&strid=D472115&ns=1
 

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Helloooooooooooooooooo generic.
Hell, I buy generic much of the time and can afford the Del Monte and S&W. You don't lose quality. That's BS. The Del Monte growers sell to the chains for generic. Most times it is canned in the same plant and just labeled differently.
I was looking at food store web sites from NC and see the sale prices and generics are close to those here especially in the Kroger (Ralphs here I think you don't have Kroger in NC though, least not near Charlotte, there used to be one out by Camp Lejeune oh a couple decades ago last I was there) the generics are running .49 to .79 for canned veg and I see you think I wouldn't see you use Uncle Bens....flavored parboil rice is stupid expensive.
I grew up on beans and rice and taters.( yeah, I wasn't always so rich and good looking)
My wife did too and in her case yams instead of potatoes.
If you have a clue and feed your kids right from the start the are fewer issues later.
Most of the time diet is a learned thing.

The whole don't breed 'em thing is just common sense.
Sounds bad but think about it; if you are devoid of marketable skills other than entry level factory jobs and you have no education to speak of or initiative don't go on a two person breeding program.
Personally I think it should be a felony to have kids before you are 25 and married with at least one degree holder in the house..........................(that was sarcasm, sort of)
That's all. Just common sense.
Honestly that's why I have none of my own yet, I have not til recently had my sh•t wired tight enough to bring kids into the equation. That and I had to raise my idiot sisters kids.
And yeah I feel bad for the kids too.
That's why I give what I can to the Slavation Army, they get over 80¢ on every donated Dollar to someone who A) needs it and B) shows a willingness to earn it.
I am interested iin looking into that angel ministry too.
If they are similar I would donate there as well.
Need to vet their sources first though as well as their efficiency.
 
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