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you might want to have a looksee at this test of 3 truck competitors.I'm showing this as a safety issue,'cause many of us have dependant children & EX's.! har-har..:(


 

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Oh what'a feel'n...

Damn that Toyo looked like it was gonna come apart on the track and the 2nd video showed why.

Toyo's not looking too good IMO.
 

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This has been posted before. If you look closely in the 2nd vid, it looks as though the Tundra frame is not chained down as well as the F150 causing it to appear to flex more.
 

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man, save yourself some trouble and get you a old truck, a 50's, or 60's anything.
if you choose ford, you want a 302 with a T5 manual tranny, if you must have power,
get one with a 351 windsor, 351M , or a 351 cleveland
I don't know much about chevy and dodge except that in a chevy your best
bet is probably a 305 enough power and won't kill you on gas.
as for dodge, you need a 318, they will run a long time if taken care of, that is if you
make sure the wife can check oil and water.
 

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There is a reason why the F-150 is the 'Gold Standard' for 1/2 ton trucks....

I had a 53 F-100 that had been a work truck it's entire life. It 'retired' in 1990 when the front leafs broke and I traded it for a 76 Lincoln MkIV. New owner made a hot rod truck out of it. The old flathead V8 always started right up, and ran well.
 

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I really don't see the advantage of buying a new vehicle of any kind.
you gotta have a freakin tech degree, and a $3000 machine to work on it,
they arent as tough, no amount of tech has exceded the toughness of an old
steel bodied truck, put seatbelts in it and it's safer than any of this new junk.
ever seen a wreck between an old car and a new one, odds are the old one
ate the new one. get a smallblock and it will probably get as good if not better
milage than the new one.

(if anyones kin died in this type of incident I'm sorry, just making a point)
 

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yep, they suck EFI rice rockets right up the intake
they might be simpler but in no way do they get better mileage.

I'm a big fan of the ol straight sixes, but for everyday use a modern V8 has so much more power and efficiency it is intellectually dishonest to say an old small block is more effecient, or ignorant.

i also hate automatic transmissions, i only buy manuals.
 

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John do you know how to adjust timing, and fuel/air mix?
Do you know that a higher geared transmission and differential
will dramatically increase the gas milage of any vehicle?
or do you trust your tire pressure is correct.
haha
 

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John do you know how to adjust timing, and fuel/air mix?
Do you know that a higher geared transmission and differential
will dramatically increase the gas milage of any vehicle?
or do you trust your tire pressure is correct.
haha
yep. I have 71 cutlass with points.
 

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1.they might be simpler but in no way do they get better mileage.

2.I'm a big fan of the ol straight sixes, but for everyday use a modern V8 has so much more power and efficiency it is intellectually dishonest to say an old small block is more effecient, or ignorant.

3.i also hate automatic transmissions, i only buy manuals.
1.they do if you know how to build the engine for desired result.
some people know how to build for power, others know how to build
for milage.

2.a sticker that say's new does not mean better, only more expensive
more power...please, what is your definition of power?
in '67 a 302 had about 240hp, today's EFI 5.0 has about 160hp
efficiancy yes, power no
I know my old motors, ignorance is not a factor or a legitimate argument.

3.right on, me too brother, I'll take a stick every time.
for speed or efficiancy
 

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good man, nice car, 350 aint it
throw a ford nine under it and hang on.
one of the last made that had any power to speak of.
 

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man, save yourself some trouble and get you a old truck, a 50's, or 60's anything.
if you choose ford, you want a 302 with a T5 manual tranny, if you must have power,
get one with a 351 windsor, 351M , or a 351 cleveland
I don't know much about chevy and dodge except that in a chevy your best
bet is probably a 305 enough power and won't kill you on gas.
as for dodge, you need a 318, they will run a long time if taken care of, that is if you
make sure the wife can check oil and water.
Ah man, the Chevy 305 is the most gas guzzling pig ever made! I had one and got better fuel mileage with my 454. And I vote 300 for Ford engine, unless you need the power then go with a 390. We agree on the Dodge 318 although I hear the 440 is a great engine if you need the power.
 
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oh Sh**. I agree with FX. The world is coming to a end. I buy new trucks because I have to rely n them to do my job. A 1960 truck will be constantly breaking down with the millage I put on them. I heard my dad and uncle talk about the reliability of old vs. new truck and the new beats them hands down.

BTW I used to have a 92 GMC Typhoon and could adjust the timing and fuel mixture. and it was fuel injected.
 

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someone post a poll on this.
I say old is better, it would be interesting to see the outcome.
how anyone could consider an EFI for a bug out is beyond me.
and I mentioned the timing and fuel/air mix because those can be
adjusted for more power or more fuel economy.
 

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someone post a poll on this.
I say old is better, it would be interesting to see the outcome.
how anyone could consider an EFI for a bug out is beyond me.
and I mentioned the timing and fuel/air mix because those can be
adjusted for more power or more fuel economy.
I can only agree. i love my old '79. She's dreamy.

I'm the type that would rather keep my old stuff tip-top than buy something new though. Have put about 9 grand in upgrades into a truck I couldn't sell for more than $2500. Course, I built it that way for me, not to sell. Cheaper insurance, sturdier vehicle I already know I can trust, plus I have so many years and miles with her, I can just "feel" when something is amiss.
 

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old is good

I guess,cause I'm still around,huh.? :zombie

anyway,my take on the frame test is simple,that weenie Toyota frame is obviously weaker...it's built with C-type construction,it's cheaper to build a frame in that manner.for decades Detroits' Big 3 have been building truck frames with a fully enclosed box that's welded together for structual integrity.Costs more but you get a solid truck built to do work,the Toyota is built to look purdy..you know,ride around givin people the impression you're rancher or somethin' :rolleyes:
 

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2.a sticker that say's new does not mean better, only more expensive
more power...please, what is your definition of power?
in '67 a 302 had about 240hp, today's EFI 5.0 has about 160hp
efficiancy yes, power no
I know my old motors, ignorance is not a factor or a legitimate argument.
Then how come you don't know the new ones? New feul injected motors such as even the likes of a new Ford 4.6 in an f-150 make as much as 290 horsepower. A Ford 5.4 is now over 300, and something like a chevy 5.7 is close to 340. Dodge has a version ofthe hemi that is at 390 horsepower.

Efi 5.0...that's 30 years ago or more...even then by the 90's they were up to 200+ HP.
 
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