The stuff in food?!?

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TriggerHappy

Discussion Starter · Jan 2, 2014

So I'm sitting here at my desk and cracked open a diet Dr. Pepper. Took a drink. Then became curious about the ingredients.
Aspartame, Phosphoric Acid and Sodium Benzoate. I did a couple quick googles and nothing but government types saying these are all okay/safe. Naturally when the government says something I tend to believe the opposite.

Any thoughts on this? What would be a credible source on these and other ingredients?

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bowman

· #2 · Jan 2, 2014

If you aren't going to believe government sources about food safety, you probably wouldn't want to believe medical experts who work in industries which receive government money.

I personally have a bad reaction to aspartame so have to read food labels religiously to avoid it and can't eat random food prepared by someone else. I can't vouch for anyone else.

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MeTarzan

· #3 · Jan 2, 2014

It is probably the ingredients that you ARE familiar with that are the biggest problems, like refined sugars and the other -loses...

rpp

· #4 · Jan 2, 2014

You know, it was reading the ingredient labels that lead me to start growing and canning my own food, making my own baking mixes and bread and avoid that chemical garbage altogether.

But what Was really eye-opening for me was when I learned about the process involved in declaring a food additive "safe". It basically runs along the lines of manufacturers telling the FDA that they think it is safe no one has complained.

I will add that this change in lifestyle, for me and my family, has lead us all to feel better, have more energy, lose weight and have a brighter attitude. Not to mention, it really has helped us to learn how to truly be food independent, an important aspect of being prepared for personal, local, regional and national disasters.

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TriggerHappy

Discussion Starter · #5 · Jan 2, 2014

bowman said:
If you aren't going to believe government sources about food safety, you probably wouldn't want to believe medical experts who work in industries which receive government money.

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I got to thinking about this after I posted. I guess if you remove all the sources who are getting government grants or some other benefit, then you've about eliminated all the sources.

There are probably not many privately funded research firms looking into these things. Maybe there are, I dunno

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Kryu

· #6 · Jan 2, 2014

Many of the additives in our food seem to be to produce an across the board generic texture, color, and flavor. In life there is variability. One apple doesn't look the same as another. In order to make any sort of claims on how a food tastes then that variability is covered up with additives.

Then there are things put in our food which completely defies logic. Why did High Fructose Corn Syrup need to be put in everything??

Take something that has been made for generations upon generations and then look at the ingredients list. That sauce or cake had to of been made 100 years ago without these chemicals so who the hell thought to stick them in there?

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Jungleboy

· #7 · Jan 2, 2014

bowman said:
If you aren't going to believe government sources about food safety, you probably wouldn't want to believe medical experts who work in industries which receive government money.

I personally have a bad reaction to aspartame so have to read food labels religiously to avoid it and can't eat random food prepared by someone else. I can't vouch for anyone else.

The first time I had Aspartame was when I was a Kid. My grandmother had made Sugar Free Jello and I ate it. It made me violently ill. I vomited for a day and a half. I even had hallucinations.
I will never let anything with artificial Sweeteners into my Body.

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DrReco

· #8 · Jan 2, 2014

Yes, some of the stuff that is allowed in our food boggles the mind! I posted a video the other day about ractopamine which is used in pork (and turkey) as a growth promoter. It is banned in China, yet considered perfectly fine here in the good ole USA.

Google Dr. Russell Blaylock for his work on excitotoxins like MSG and aspartame which are anything but safe and wreak major havoc in the body.

http://www.naturalnews.com/020550_excitotoxins_MSG.html

Here is another one of Dr. Michael Greger's videos about the serious dangers of phosphate additives.

Also check out Mike Adams' Natural News site, as it contains a wealth of health promoting information.

http://www.naturalnews.com/food_additives.html

This type of information is necessary for serious preppers.

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LindaLou

· #9 · Jan 2, 2014 (Edited)

On the positive side, aspartame is a terrific anti-constipation chemical.

Several friends and I get the drizzles when we have a can Diet Dr. Pepper 2 or 3 days in a row.

Needless to say, when we discovered the cause (advice of proctologist and our own experimentation), we all switched to water! :thumb:

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DWwolf

· #10 · Jan 2, 2014

Kryu said:
Many of the additives in our food seem to be to produce an across the board generic texture, color, and flavor. In life there is variability. One apple doesn't look the same as another. In order to make any sort of claims on how a food tastes then that variability is covered up with additives.

Then there are things put in our food which completely defies logic. Why did High Fructose Corn Syrup need to be put in everything??

Take something that has been made for generations upon generations and then look at the ingredients list. That sauce or cake had to of been made 100 years ago without these chemicals so who the hell thought to stick them in there?

Because its cheap and available because of sugar import restrictions, and corn subsidies. Companies only care about cost, availability (which = cost really ), and no customer complaints, it makes sense for the company if theyre selling a product/experience that they can make it a repeatable experience since they are counting on repeat sales.

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Harmless Drudge

· #11 · Jan 2, 2014

TriggerHappy said:
So I'm sitting here at my desk and cracked open a diet Dr. Pepper. Took a drink. Then became curious about the ingredients.
Aspartame, Phosphoric Acid and Sodium Benzoate. I did a couple quick googles and nothing but government types saying these are all okay/safe. Naturally when the government says something I tend to believe the opposite.

Any thoughts on this? What would be a credible source on these and other ingredients?

Phosphoric acid can be used to loosen rusted bolts. Mostly by eating through the bearing surface.

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Ranger F

· #12 · Jan 2, 2014

That stuff is nothing! U should see the crap that is in the packaging!
Petroleum based film n petroleum based ink. Where I work I print it. They have to burn the fumes in the air before they can vent it out of the building , it's not good for the environment! But I'll be fine , no worries.

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ShepherdGirl

· #13 · Jan 2, 2014

I try to eat organic as much as I can since I do not trust that all the additives/pesticides allowed in foods are safe. And I've been hearing very nasty things about GMO foods. Cooking from scratch is ideal, although it does take a lot of time. I'm getting better and better at not eating processed foods, and you can't beat how much better everything tastes. But, I have a bad addiction to Coke Zero that has been difficult to shake. Really trying to cut back.

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alergyfree

· #14 · Jan 2, 2014

Harmless Drudge said:
Phosphoric acid can be used to loosen rusted bolts. Mostly by eating through the bearing surface.

And from what I understand tells your body to dump calcium hence the rampant joint issues.

This "manufacturers telling the FDA that they think it is safe no one has complained."
The drug companies as well.....
And the fact that manufacturers need not prove something is safe. It is up to the person harmed to prove otherwise and who can afford the better lawyer?

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heartland

· #15 · Jan 2, 2014

aspartame=neurotoxin

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speedofl33t

· #16 · Jan 3, 2014

To add to the paranoia, even good food come in bad packages that leak stuff. The whole plastic deal come with breast and testicular cancers.

Have fun with that.

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Noob_Prepper

· #17 · Jan 3, 2014

TriggerHappy said:
So I'm sitting here at my desk and cracked open a diet Dr. Pepper. Took a drink. Then became curious about the ingredients.
Aspartame, Phosphoric Acid and Sodium Benzoate. I did a couple quick googles and nothing but government types saying these are all okay/safe. Naturally when the government says something I tend to believe the opposite.

Any thoughts on this? What would be a credible source on these and other ingredients?

Welcome to the beginning of your journey. You will learn many things along the way. It will seem overwhelming at times, but it's worth it. Your eyes will be open to the poisons that are put into almost all foods. Many give up because they discover that it would be nearly impossible to shop for healthy food at the grocery store--and they are right. When you shop at the grocery store, you are are accepting a certain degree of risks to your health. But at the very top of the bad list would be all soft drinks. They contain zero healthy ingredients and only bad ingredients.

Aspartame has been proven toxic. Just type it into any search engine. Or go to pubmed; there, you will find 525 scientific studies about aspartame. Have fun! I love pubmed; I'm always going on there to find scientific studies (facts) instead of blogs and forums (opinions) about what's good or bad for my body.

Blogs and forums are good places to start, but you'll need to read real science when it comes to making financial decisions about your health (what to buy from where).

When it comes to government telling us what is safe, just remember this: our government and the government of Japan increased radiation safety limits for food after Fukushima.

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Noob_Prepper

· #18 · Jan 3, 2014

You guys can really get me going on this topic; I have been into this subject for years now.

Kryu said:
Many of the additives in our food seem to be to produce an across the board generic texture, color, and flavor. In life there is variability. One apple doesn't look the same as another. In order to make any sort of claims on how a food tastes then that variability is covered up with additives.

Then there are things put in our food which completely defies logic. Why did High Fructose Corn Syrup need to be put in everything??

Like another poster said here, because it's so cheap.

Kryu said:
Take something that has been made for generations upon generations and then look at the ingredients list. That sauce or cake had to of been made 100 years ago without these chemicals so who the hell thought to stick them in there?

The chemicals, additives, emulsifiers and such are put into food because the food needs to be made shelf-stable. This means, it has to last a long time on the shelf at the grocery store. And also, they are added as cheaper replacements for more expensive, higher quality ingredients. Food production from the perspective of food chain stores/grocery stores is: it must be cheap and it must last a long time before going bad. It's all about the profit margins. Not your health.

Now, the good news is, the more aware the consumer is, the better. I have witnessed a grocery store chain, WinCo Foods, change its offerings over the course of 10 years shopping there. It went from a normal, average run of the mill grocery store to something in between an average grocery store and a Whole Foods. It still offers great prices and huge selection, but they have really increased their offerings of gluten-free foods, organics, fresh foods, all natural foods, etc. I was really impressed with it. If you change your shopping behaviors, grocery stores will cater to you.

speedofl33t said:
To add to the paranoia, even good food come in bad packages that leak stuff. The whole plastic deal come with breast and testicular cancers.

Have fun with that.

Oh absolutely. Now adays the food packaging can be dangerous all by itself. As a default, one must understand that plastics are made of chemicals, and that those chemicals will leech (to varying degrees) into your food. I will be switching to glassware soon.

Oh and don't forget that now adays, conventional produce is sprayed or coated with "edible" wax. Fun fun! Eat up folks!

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TxHannah

· #19 · Jan 3, 2014

Something else to think about.... food additives are often used for improving the way food tastes as well as the way it feels in your mouth--the texture. Gums, acids, salts, waxes, etc. This is why kids and most young adults love crap like Jello brand pudding cups as opposed to home made pudding made from only milk, eggs, sugar, vanilla or chocolate, eggs etc. It's also why they love processed, pre-formed chicken nuggets as opposed to home made fried chicken strips. And with just about anything. I can't count the number of times I have heard people, both children and adults, say something home made just doesn't taste the same or as good as the processed, packaged version.

They know no different.

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DWwolf

· #20 · Jan 3, 2014

Carefull now, what you are eating is also made of chemicals.

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