Ok we are aware of the SHTF and we are aware of bad times to come but are we really understanding SHTF right? For me the fan might get poop on it tomorrow if the stock market callasped and my business went under, I would need a place to live and a place to call home where the cost of living would be low and the ability to eat without a income would be high. For some of us if might be foreclosure and our bank going under that forces us to go into true survival mode. I got into the survival club I am in just because I have a deeded place that is mine that extends to me the use of land for growing a garden, hunting game, and to work from while getting back to some normalcy. But if the Govt came down like a ton of bricks I know I am in a prime spot to defend against invasion and loss of life and land. The SHTF for a lot of people who now wish they owned a little place somewhere that they could live on while getting back on track or hunting a new source of income. Do we wait until it's too late to do more than talk or do we act and secure a place to call home when home becomes no more for whatever reason? I know at least one of you know someone who has been effected by the housing issues that have come about, I bet they wish they had a fall back property now. Well anyway thanks for reading my rant on the SHTF.