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I have always thought the Scout Rifle concept was an interesting, and versatile one. Some rifles that have always caught my eye are the "tanker" Garands, and the M1A Scout Squad. They just have a real cool look that I thought was handy, and could lend them to the scout rifle concept. I wanted to stay with a bolt gun though, and the Lee Enfield has always fascinated me by the cock on close design, and 10 round magazine. I decided to make a "tanker" Lee Enfield version of a Scout Rifle.

I like the design, and the look of the No4 Mk 1 more than any other, so that had to be the one. Also, I wanted it to look very close to a normal issue rifle when I got done, just with the enhancements to suit me that I wanted. That meant I was going to need a complete rifle to start with. I couldn't just grab up any old bubbaed up sporter. I needed all the top wood, everything. Well, I found one. I found one so nice I started second guessing if I wanted to do this, but I'm not a collector. Never have been, never will be. I care zero about dollar value, only my enjoyment of what I buy, so if you're gonna tell me how wrong I am for doing this, just save yourself the trouble and GTFO of this thread right now.

I got the gun, and I started in. BTW, the receiver had previously been drilled and tapped for a scope mount, but the mount was not on it, and one screw was broke off in a hole...

I took it apart, and off to the gunsmith she went. A week later, and the 25" barrel is now 18" with an 11 degree target crown. The original front sight has been moved back with about 1.75" or barrel poking out in front of it just as in the original. However, it doesn't have the little tabs for mounting a bayonet anymore... They don't make the Clifton mounts for the Lee Enfield anymore, so he took some bar stock and turned me down a custom mount to fit the barrel. It's pressed on, then two set screws hold it in place as he dimpled the barrel. On top of that is a section of picatinny rail I gave him to work with.

The rear sight will be in the way of the scope as it will sit pretty low, so I had him remove the long range (600M) peep. I can't see very far to shoot with irons anyhow. I'll leave the 300M peep pointed back, (flat) to use the scope, then flip it up should I have to remove the scope and use the iron sights. As it sits now, I'm starting in on the wood work modifying the stock to shorten it so that it maintains the classic looks, but in a shorter package. The top wood has the front piece shortened, the rear piece a hole cut for the mount to stick up through. The fore end has been shortened and reshaped (roughly) to fit the black metal end cap. I'm replacing the butt stock with one from Boyd's as I want more of a pistol grip style, but I'm going to attempt to affix the brass butt plate, and original sling swivel to it. Then everything will be refinished to match. There's still a lot of wood work to do to get the shape the way I want it, but the idea is there... My first try at reshaping a stock too, so I'm trying not to screw it up, and have to go shopping for another stock... Scope is the 2.5 Leupold, and a set of low QD Leupold rings, and a pair of scope caps are on the way. Then I'll have to find a sling.



 

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Not sure why a bubba jobbed gun wouldn’t have worked.
Depending on how badly bubba did things, I guess.
But it looks like it’s going to turn out nicely.:thumb:
 

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Where do you get your ammo? I have a #4mk 1* but its just a wall hanger at this point because .303 ammo is too expensive and too hard to find to make it worth it to me.
 

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Where do you get your ammo? I have a #4mk 1* but its just a wall hanger at this point because .303 ammo is too expensive and too hard to find to make it worth it to me.
Gun show, or online. I found 20 rounds of surplus incendiary .303 at a show a couple weeks back... A buck a round, but I just had to snap it up...
 

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Gun show, or online. I found 20 rounds of surplus incendiary .303 at a show a couple weeks back... A buck a round, but I just had to snap it up...
Yeah, I just can't get excited about a gun with hard to find ammo. No fun when every shot is one shot closer to the last one.

Now...if I my #4 was one of the rare .308 ones it could be different.

Time to learn reloading. The 303 case is easy to size and .311 bullets are easy to cast.
Its also notorious for having a short case life when reloaded.
 

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Case life is improved in a 303 if you don't run them hot (rear locking lugs not the best design) and neck size only if the chamber is round enough. Anneling can help too.

My buddy just loves his 303's, but cases only last 2 reloads.

https://www.gunbroker.com/All/search?Keywords=303 brass
Just sounds like a lot of screwing around for no pay off.

I mean, its cool rifle, the action has a great feel to it....but it doesn't do anything you can't do with any other bolt action.

The only reason I got mine was because it was only $70 back in '99 and I didn't know any better.
 

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I don't generally like sporters even though I do have some of them, but that is looking really nice. I have a poorly done 303 sporter. The wood is terribly done on it. Now you have me thinking of a new stock modified like yours.
As far as ammo. I see 303 brit prvi partisan as low as $13 a box. I've found prvi partizan to be good ammo and it is reloadable. As charliemeyer said, for 303 neck size only unless you have more than one rifle and don't like keeping it separated by rifle.
I love 303's but they tend to have the chambers pretty loose, I guess for ease of extraction for a "mad minute".
 

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I have a couple or three enfields. Some military, some not. I reload and cast so ammo is not an issue and maybe 20 years ago, I picked up some military ammo which was boxer primed, maybe Greek. Cast projectiles around 1700-2000 fps are just fine and will stop most anything you hit. I just pulled 308 enfield off the barn rack and cleaned it. I have yet to run a few rounds though it.
 

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I have always thought the Scout Rifle concept was an interesting, and versatile one. Some rifles that have always caught my eye are the "tanker" Garands, and the M1A Scout Squad. They just have a real cool look that I thought was handy, and could lend them to the scout rifle concept. I wanted to stay with a bolt gun though, and the Lee Enfield has always fascinated me by the cock on close design, and 10 round magazine. I decided to make a "tanker" Lee Enfield version of a Scout Rifle.

I like the design, and the look of the No4 Mk 1 more than any other, so that had to be the one. Also, I wanted it to look very close to a normal issue rifle when I got done, just with the enhancements to suit me that I wanted. That meant I was going to need a complete rifle to start with. I couldn't just grab up any old bubbaed up sporter. I needed all the top wood, everything. Well, I found one. I found one so nice I started second guessing if I wanted to do this, but I'm not a collector. Never have been, never will be. I care zero about dollar value, only my enjoyment of what I buy, so if you're gonna tell me how wrong I am for doing this, just save yourself the trouble and GTFO of this thread right now.

I got the gun, and I started in. BTW, the receiver had previously been drilled and tapped for a scope mount, but the mount was not on it, and one screw was broke off in a hole...

I took it apart, and off to the gunsmith she went. A week later, and the 25" barrel is now 18" with an 11 degree target crown. The original front sight has been moved back with about 1.75" or barrel poking out in front of it just as in the original. However, it doesn't have the little tabs for mounting a bayonet anymore... They don't make the Clifton mounts for the Lee Enfield anymore, so he took some bar stock and turned me down a custom mount to fit the barrel. It's pressed on, then two set screws hold it in place as he dimpled the barrel. On top of that is a section of picatinny rail I gave him to work with.

The rear sight will be in the way of the scope as it will sit pretty low, so I had him remove the long range (600M) peep. I can't see very far to shoot with irons anyhow. I'll leave the 300M peep pointed back, (flat) to use the scope, then flip it up should I have to remove the scope and use the iron sights. As it sits now, I'm starting in on the wood work modifying the stock to shorten it so that it maintains the classic looks, but in a shorter package. The top wood has the front piece shortened, the rear piece a hole cut for the mount to stick up through. The fore end has been shortened and reshaped (roughly) to fit the black metal end cap. I'm replacing the butt stock with one from Boyd's as I want more of a pistol grip style, but I'm going to attempt to affix the brass butt plate, and original sling swivel to it. Then everything will be refinished to match. There's still a lot of wood work to do to get the shape the way I want it, but the idea is there... My first try at reshaping a stock too, so I'm trying not to screw it up, and have to go shopping for another stock... Scope is the 2.5 Leupold, and a set of low QD Leupold rings, and a pair of scope caps are on the way. Then I'll have to find a sling.



I'll take it. ( JK)

Excellent work so far sir. A few question s......

1. Do you foresee any issues with installing the brass buttplate and rear sling swivel? Scout rifles deserve metal imo

2. Linseed oil for wood final product, or something else? If so, then what?

3. Rifles overall length?

4. Dry weight and loaded weight?

5. Can you get it over a chrono for some MV data?

6. And the obvious question of all......How does she shoot?

My vote for a sling goes to an original Enfield sling simply for the look. (,Ching sling is way to ugly for that rifle) Runner up would have to be GI cotton web M1/M14 with metal hardware. ( No nylon or plastic)

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I'll take it. ( JK)

Excellent work so far sir. A few question s......

1. Do you foresee any issues with installing the brass buttplate and rear sling swivel? Scout rifles deserve metal imo

2. Linseed oil for wood final product, or something else? If so, then what?

3. Rifles overall length?

4. Dry weight and loaded weight?

5. Can you get it over a chrono for some MV data?

6. And the obvious question of all......How does she shoot?

My vote for a sling goes to an original Enfield sling simply for the look. (,Ching sling is way to ugly for that rifle) Runner up would have to be GI cotton web M1/M14 with metal hardware. ( No nylon or plastic)

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Looks primed to take a hog, standing on your front porch.

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Looks primed to take a hog, standing on your front porch.

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Come to think of it.....I have not used 303 British ( or Savage for that matter) to shoot a pig......ever.

I don't see any reason why he couldn't use it for that purpose.

BTW.......Im not near my porch at present time. Rocky Mountains above 8000 feet.

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Don't have all the answers yet, as it's a works in progress...


I'll take it. ( JK)

Excellent work so far sir. A few question s......

1. Do you foresee any issues with installing the brass buttplate and rear sling swivel? Scout rifles deserve metal imo This isn't gonna be easy. I've started working the buttstock, but the shape is weird, and I'm a novice woodworker. I'll have to trim it too, as the Boyd's stock is a bit slimmer than the British one.

2. Linseed oil for wood final product, or something else? If so, then what? Again, I have to experiment and learn. I was just planing to start with a basic Walnut stain, and maybe some Tru-oil or Linseed oil, never used either though.

3. Rifles overall length? As it sits now... 37.5"

4. Dry weight and loaded weight? No clue.

5. Can you get it over a chrono for some MV data? Don't have one, or know anyone with one.

6. And the obvious question of all......How does she shoot? I'll find out after I get done. Bought it and tore into it.

My vote for a sling goes to an original Enfield sling simply for the look. (,Ching sling is way to ugly for that rifle) Runner up would have to be GI cotton web M1/M14 with metal hardware. ( No nylon or plastic)

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.303 ammo is still plentiful with modern ammo while most surplus are stockpiled by patriots, preppers, and hoarders. I have 5 Enfields and 10k rounds stashed in my basement and around 400 rounds of loose ammo that I dry fire and practice working the bolt with. I literally stopped shooting it 10 years ago when barry stopped importation of surplus ammo and part kits. Honestly, I treat my Enfields as I treat my Garands, purely as ceremonial rifles and future caveman freedom fighter rifles.

OP - very beautiful rifle you got there. I did the same thing to my Mosin M44 as I have over 30k rounds of that cheap armor piercing round when they were $100 per case. I stashed most except ~2k rounds to shoot once a year to mak sure I can still leak a gallon milk jug at 300 yards. With .22 lr being cheap now, I resort to it and shoot monthly to stay proficient as far as breathing and aiming but I save the battle rifle stuffs for quarterly shoot so I get 4 shooting sessions out each each by rotating between the big 4 calibers.
 

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Did the sanding, and two coats of stain today, but not sure I'm gonna come out with a perfect match. The 80+ year old Canadian front wood, and the bran new Boyd's butt stock isn't made of the same stuff... Probably close enough for me normally, but I really wanted this to be nice, so I may look for someone who does refinishing of furniture look at it. My woodworking skills are make stuff strong, not pretty.
 
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