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The Washington Post / July 6th 1989 / SECTION: A17
The Founding Fathers and the AK-47
by Sue Wimmershoff-Caplan

The hostility provoked by the National Rifle Association's ad ". . . The Right of the People to Keep and Bear Arms. . ."— which pictured a bloodied student surrounded by helmeted Chinese soldiers— points up the public's misconceptions regarding the importance of the US Constitution's Second Amendment. Readers who chide The Post for even accepting the ad [Free for All, July 1] are avoiding public discussion of a controversial but vital issue.

Notwithstanding The Post's editorial gibe [June 23] that the ad simplemindedly implied that "you can never tell about governments," this is precisely what the Framers of the American Constitution believed. Detailed and sophisticated public discussions were led by Alexander Hamilton and James Madison in 1787-88 on the inclinations of all governments to keep expanding their prerogatives, both by sudden arrogations of power and by gradually chipping away at democratic processes at the expense of civil liberties (The Federalists Papers, Nos. 12, 19, 28, 39, 46 and 48). European history revealed countless betrayals of citizens by their rulers. The Founding Fathers concluded that such travesties of government were made possible by undemocratic structures and also by the failure of those regimes to "trust the people with arms" (Federalist, No. 46). Our constitutional Framers were proud to be different from "almost every other nation" in approving of their already armed population (Federalist, No. 46).

Actual shooting revolutions were what the Framers wanted to avoid at all costs. The "devastation and carnage" (Federalist, No. 19) endured by other peoples convinced them that the best way to prevent such disasters in America was not to trust wholly to paper guarantees, but also to rely upon the fact that Americans would continue to keep privately owned firearms. Such arms would act as a quiet but tangible deterrent upon government criminality and despotism and function as a "barrier" (Federalist, No. 46) against governmental acts that might provoke armed rebellion. It was such subtle political considerations— not frontier conditions, hunting pleasures or the Indian threat— that concerned the Framers when they premised the entire American republican form of government upon the understanding contained in the Second Amendment, that the people would always be armed:

"A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms shall not be infringed."

The private individual right to own and use arms was thereby guaranteed. "Militia" in colonial parlance did not refer to men in uniform but meant every male in the community capable of carrying arms (as noted by contemporary scholar Don Higginbotham). Hamilton himself spoke of "the whole nation" or "the populations at large" as the militia (Federalist, No. 28). "Arms" in this context were those weapons suitable for use in a one-to-one encounter. Indeed, a proposal to limit the language of the amendment to cover only public defense was soundly defeated in the very first session of the U. S. Senate in September 1789.

A disarmed population is forced to resort to the most desperate measures. The storming of the Bastille, which ushered in the 1789 French Revolution, was motivated by the desire to obtain the gunpowder stored there. Cobblestones and uprooted trees were implements of frustrated French revolutionaries in the early 1830s, as vividly described in "Les Miserables." Likewise in 1989 Beijing, the Chinese students having found nonviolence futile, tore up the sidewalks and trees for ammunition and barricades. The point is not that the demonstrators should have confronted the army with weapons but that if all Chinese citizens kept arms, their rulers would hardly have dared to massacre the demonstrators, to say nothing of the continuing purges and executions taking place now.

Once a population is disarmed, any calamity is possible. The contrived Ukrainian "Harvest of Sorrow" famine of 1932-33 was preceded by the confiscation of civilian-owned rifles. Strict registration requirements, introduced in 1926, provided convenient lists of rifle owners and streamlined seizures by the police.

Constitutional principles accommodate modern technology. If the right to private ownership of firearms is limited to the colonists' muskets, by the same logic, freedom of speech does not over radio, movies and TV, but is confined to the unamplified, untransmitted voice. The private keeping of hand-held personal firearms is within the constitutional design for a counter to government run amok, as when the military and police use such firearms against their fellow nationals. As the Tiananmen Square tragedy showed so graphically, AK-47s fall into that category of weapons, and that is why they are protected by the Second Amendment.

Twentieth-century military machines are far from invincible when outflanked by armed citizen guerrillas. Tanks and even high-tech military hardware were unavailing to the U. S. forces in Vietnam and the Russians in Afghanistan.

The price of liberty? Certainly firearms come into the hands of children, disturbed people and criminals. Needless deaths and injuries do result. Even so, the number of gun-related deaths in the United States including Stockton, Calif.-type mayhem is approximately 20,000 annually, which includes 10,000 suicides. Compare that with the millions of deaths (including untold numbers of children) in the Ukraine and the carnage of youngsters in China. If we do not understand and cherish the Second Amendment, it can happen here.

The writer Sue Wimmershoff-Caplan is a lawyer in New York who has taught law at Baruch College. She is also a member of the National Board of the National Rifle Associations.
Have had this article saved on my computer for awhile and figured I'd share it with you all. I know there is a military weapons thread, but I think this is something every gun owner should read. Hope you enjoy it
 

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Even an armed society is not necessarily a free society. Iraq seemed to have plenty of weapons on hand but they allowed a dictator to rule the country.

Not only must a society be armed but some of it's citizens must be willing to shed their blood for the greater good. During the American Revolution only a small part of the population actually fought for the freedom of this country. In any society that survives in freedom there must be a segment of that society that is willing to stand up and be counted.

If Obama is elected we must stand up and be counted with or voices first before we lose the right to be armed and become subjects.
 

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Just remember, Englishmen had a right to own arms and it was overlooked and the weapons chop sawn in two. Don't ever think because you own a gun you are safe. There are 50 more people better trained and equipped with better guns waiting to take yours when they are given word to do so. It may be a fundamental right, but don't expect not to be trampled on, on anything. Murphy's law is the only law of the land.
 

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Just remember, Englishmen had a right to own arms and it was overlooked and the weapons chop sawn in two. Don't ever think because you own a gun you are safe. There are 50 more people better trained and equipped with better guns waiting to take yours when they are given word to do so. It may be a fundamental right, but don't expect not to be trampled on, on anything. Murphy's law is the only law of the land.
This is one reason I prefer a .308 MBR. When they finally come, we're gonna need every small advantage we can get. I'd go for that beowulf .50 AE AR15 but I can't legally own it here in the People's Republic of New York.
 

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heh, you could always hurl a brick, it'll have about the same effect.
 

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Another five year old thread comes back from the dead. Like someone else said,, it must be close to Halloween.
Or close to revolution. Folks are angry. Congress better get their collective asses in gear and pass a budget. HOW many years has the Senate not ratified a budget? Maybe they should just take some more time off...and not come back. I for one am fed up with them, and let my Congress-critter know so.
 

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Just remember, Englishmen had a right to own arms and it was overlooked and the weapons chop sawn in two. Don't ever think because you own a gun you are safe. There are 50 more people better trained and equipped with better guns waiting to take yours when they are given word to do so. It may be a fundamental right, but don't expect not to be trampled on, on anything. Murphy's law is the only law of the land.
They may be better trained, and better equipped, but they have homes and go shopping too.

Meeting the opposition head on is stupid and the sign of a martyr.
 

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Thing is, it still holds true.

Nice read but who didn't know this? Surprised the post published it, guess they are getting more of this now than the anti *iss and moan crap and they need space filler.

The idiots still coat tail on the reason being for "hunting" and there is no "organized" militia, so whats the need? Now its "the children".

Soon the militia will prove apparent simply by walking out all of our front doors. Everyone is the milita. Keep pushing you bunch of f'ing idiots, keep "organizing" us, we get better every day.
 

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Even an armed society is not necessarily a free society. Iraq seemed to have plenty of weapons on hand but they allowed a dictator to rule the country.

Not only must a society be armed but some of it's citizens must be willing to shed their blood for the greater good. During the American Revolution only a small part of the population actually fought for the freedom of this country. In any society that survives in freedom there must be a segment of that society that is willing to stand up and be counted.

If Obama is elected we must stand up and be counted with or voices first before we lose the right to be armed and become subjects.
Iraq is NOT Europe or America!
Arabs roll in a different way to us and they dig having a strongman telling them what to do. When they don't they are trying to become one and fight each other, like they are doing now
 

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the middle east has & will always be a uncivilized country. They are born in to hatred & war, they teachings are not of peace but of violence. Much different that us in America. When my brother was in Iraq in 2006 he mention they "the US soldiers" didn't trust any of them what so ever.
These are some of the reasons they despise us in the West.
 
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