OK. Lets say it moves the 300,000 lbs which is probably 3-4 times what a commercial standard truck can pull. How will it stop the 300,000 lbs when you push the brake pedal? Ha Ha Ha.

 

Not a big concern to me
Being able to move it and tow it down the interstate are two different things
Still super cool in my opinion
For the $$$
Crazy insane bang for the buck
Love to see something that would crush a $100k plus built diesel in every respect for half the $$$$$

 

300000 lbs is a LOT of tons. Depending on how the trailer was set up, there are few places to haul something that heavy. I took a Route Recon class back a long time ago, and the instructors pointed out that even moving a MIA on roads was a hard thing to do. 68+ tons of tank plus the low boy weight prohibited many routes. Those routes excluded even many interstates due to the fact the weight negatively impacted bridge tolerances. It's why most heavy armor movements is by rail.

 

300,000lbs must be a huge stretch or a mistake. 300,000 pounds would be 5 or 6 fully loaded semi trailers.

Assuming that is the only stretch or mistake the truck is competitively priced and 400 mile range loaded is really good(if that number is accurate)

 

No, for sure it can move 300,000 lbs
Click the 300,000 pound link in the article
The torque will be in the thousands

 

I would not get rid of my truck to get one

 

My uncle would not be impressed about that truck either. He's a huge diesel truck guy. I was helping him installing the railings and b&w hitches on his Superduty when he mentioned how he hate the fancy tech of the new trucks, especially EV's.

 

Me too.....

 

So you head down the road with your 300K load, get 400 miles and THEN what? How do you refuel it in less then 10 minutes like my F350?

 

Those that use their Tesla's to tow immediately discover the energy limitations. Plenty of power to rip the tongue right off their boat trailer. But not enough energy density to tow a boat 200 miles down to the Florida Keys for a weekend getaway.

It's one thing to have enough battery power to make 25HP for 2 hours, such as a sedan's usage. It's quite another to make 120HP for 2 hours, such as when towing a 22 foot boat. A 100KWH battery just can't do it. A 400KWH battery could, if they existed. (that's 4 of the best Tesla batteries BTW)

A P100D tesla can tow a very small camp trailer 100 miles at highway speeds and about 200 miles at 50mph. Towing a Corvette race car on a trailer at 75MPH limits the range to about 50 miles!

 

darn that math

Those that use their Tesla's to tow immediately discover the energy limitations. Plenty of power to rip the tongue right off their boat trailer. But not enough energy density to tow a boat 200 miles down to the Florida Keys for a weekend getaway.

It's one thing to have enough battery power to make 25HP for 2 hours, such as a sedan's usage. It's quite another to make 120HP for 2 hours, such as when towing a 22 foot boat. A 100KWH battery just can't do it. A 400KWH battery could, if they existed. (that's 4 of the best Tesla batteries BTW)

A P100D tesla can tow a very small camp trailer 100 miles at highway speeds and about 200 miles at 50mph. Towing a Corvette race car on a trailer at 75MPH limits the range to about 50 miles!

Somebody who gets it ^^^

Li-Ion battery energy density is one major hurdle, the second is charging something with the EQUIVALENT energy as 20 gallons of gasoline in a reasonable amount of time.

400,000 watt-hours is a lot of juice. In order to charge that size battery in ONE HOUR, you would have to figure out how to pump 400,000 watts into it, continuously, for that hour.

High voltage, high current or both? 400 amps at 1000 volts? 40 amps at 10,000 volts?

How about 15 minutes? 4 times that amount.

This is why electric vehicles will never replace ICE vehicles.

 

How is a fully electric vehicle a good choice for a survival vehicle ?

 

My farm uses solar power. We re-charge our plug-in hybrid sedan using our household solar power.

About 80% of my driving is EV.

So far we have seen that it is near ideal for rural New England.

I have been following the Bollinger EV farm utility truck development. I am rather excited to some day have a work vehicle that is fueled by solar panels.

 

not a flying chance in hell it'll only cost $50k. NOTHING telsa makes is affordable. IF if ever gets made, it'll be over 100K, easily.

 

And be prone to spontaneous combustion... :thumb:

Musk has a habit of promising stuff he cant deliver.

 

I don't think your local hitch outlet stocks a strong enough hitch. Might want to get one with sway control or your load might be hard to control at 70 mph. Also opt for the heavy duty suspension and air brakes package on your Tesla.

 

Typical propaganda bull **** by Tesla.
50K....wont happen
300,000 lb towing....bull ****

 

Don't forget a Toyota can pull the space shuttle. Moving a lot of weight on smooth level ground is easy.

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Rivian has a head start and their truck doesnt look nearly as ridiculous. Rivian is supposed to start production next year.

https://www.trucks.com/2019/08/21/rivian-closer-to-electric-truck-production/

The rivian will have a motor on each wheel so the truck can turn like a tank, front trunk, and higher ground clearance because nothing is hanging from the chassis.

 

No way I spend $70k on that
Let's see what Tesla rolls out
At $50k I am in
Another $70k plus pick-up and I have no interest

 

Tires that at 7 feet tall??

 

I'm all for electric vehicles. The more people buy them, the less the demand for gas, which will make prices cheaper. Works in theory, but I doubt there will be a big demand for them because of the price.

 

When they have a quick change battery or 10 minutes to full charge then I am in.

I want an electric motorcycle, but they only go 100 miles and take 8 hours to charge. My Harley goes 200+ miles per tank and refills in a few minutes.

 

Wouldn't mind an electric dirt bike just for the quiet factor, but they'd have to increase the range. The KTM is only good for 90 minutes and takes 2 hours to charge. A solar charging set up would be really nice too.

 

JUST BECAUSE it can move 300,000lbs, does not mean you have to.::thumb:

 

No kidding, with the ex wife long gone, I have no need to tow around that much weight.

 

No way it has traction for that or rated axles.

I did recovery for the military and those Tesla statements are a joke.

 

I love the classics... 50's, 60's, 70's. I also appreciate innovation. It's one of the blessings of capitalism. The best 60's muscle car would be left in the dust by a Dodge Demon, Tesla Roadster, or GTR. However, modern performance comes at the expense of durability, longevity, and ease of repair.

I'm on my second Raptor and while it is excellent at what it does, a 1975 Highboy is a far better truck in terms of durability, longevity, and ease of repair. 50 years from now you won't see old Raptors, Teslas, and GTRs fully restored with classic plates on them.

The Tesla truck looks ugly as sin and I don't for one second believe nutty Elon's claims of performance or price, but I hope he builds it. Even ideas that don't work out as planned still advance knowledge.

 

6 passenger so it's an electric ford centurion van conversion.

 

Without even going into the pros and cons of an electric vehicle, I would not have any Tesla anything.

They sill have not learned to manufacture automobiles. They have position China to take over what the started.

Musk is just enough genus to be a conman of the people with more money than sense.

 

When it comes to price tesla also claimed their solar shingles would be the same cost as conventional shingles.

In my area you can get a simple re-roof job for about $2-$3 a square foot.

Teslas solar shingles, installed by tesla come in as high as $35 a square foot. One customer claimed by the time the entire system was installed it was at $100 a square foot.

So the reality is a tesla product is 12-50 times the cost of what most people understood it would be based on the claims tesla made.

The customer who claimed the total cost was $100 a square foot paid $100,000 for a 10kw system. If you went with regular solar panels and batteries you could have the same system installed for $25,000-$30,000

 

When it comes to price tesla also claimed their solar shingles would be the same cost as conventional shingles.



In my area you can get a simple re-roof job for about $2-$3 a square foot.



Teslas solar shingles, installed by tesla come in as high as $35 a square foot. One customer claimed by the time the entire system was installed it was at $100 a square foot.



So the reality is a tesla product is 12-50 times the cost of what most people understood it would be based on the claims tesla made.

So you think this truck will cost 1/2 million dollars at least?

 

stuff they don't tell you

For an EV with a 100kWh battery figure on 8-10 hour charge time in your house with a type 2 charger. 240 volt ac single phase.

To get the time down in the couple of hours range you will need something like this $10,000 item.

https://www.evchargesolutions.com/Delta-EV-DC-Quick-Charger-Wallbox-p/deltadcfcsingle.htm

And it only charges at a 25kw rate so 4 hours for that 100kWh battery.

Does your house have the necessary electric service?

My house has a 200 amp 240 volt single-phase service. How many homes have either a 208 volt three-phase or 480 volt three-phase service? None?

So for my house if the charger is drawing 125 amps at 240 volts, there isn't much room left to run a microwave, electric range, electric water heater, or electric dryer at the same time.

This type 2 charger costs $1,160 but it only charges at a 9.6kW rate. 10.5 hours for the 100kWh battery.

https://www.evchargesolutions.com/Delta-40-Amp-Networked-Charging-Station-25-p/evmu4017mws.htm

 

Sometimes, it helps to chase things a little further:

If Musk’s statements are any indication, and he usually doesn’t overestimate vehicle capabilities, the truck should be able to outmatch the 2017 Porsche 911 Carrera, which can go from 0-60 miles per hour in under 4 seconds. And the Tesla pickup may be capable of towing 300,000 pounds,

And the Twitter reply that sparked it all:

https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1011788218734391296

Elon Musk
‏Verified account @elonmusk
26 Jun 2018

What would you love to see in a Tesla pickup truck? I have a few things in mind, but what do you think are small, but important nuances & what would be seriously next level?
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Elon Musk
‏Verified account @elonmusk
26 Jun 2018

The Tesla Truck will have dual motor all-wheel drive w crazy torque & a suspension that dynamically adjusts for load. Those will be standard.
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Psycho Hippie
‏ @phycho_hippie
26 Jun 2018

30,000 lb towing capacity
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Elon Musk
‏Verified account @elonmusk
Replying to @phycho_hippie

300,000 lb towing capacity

Not quite buying it. Don't care how brilliant he is.