Beards, hello.Anything like this organised? or just forgotten about?
Think it would be good to pass on ideas...
I've heard from someone else that organizing things here in Britain is very hard. Lots of people will say they're interested but in the end no one is willing to commit or inconvenience themselves to travel, etc. His words, not mine.
That was probably me. I have organised and paid for quite a few rendezvous for survivalists with varying success. as I pointed out over on P2S they work moderately well up north, work slightly in the midlands but are a waste of time in the south especially the SE. I have spent in excess of £4K over the years organising RZs for "" Serious survivalists"" usually to be let down and dropped in it by people claiming to be pukka preppers.
12RZs on and the lessons are thus
Folks from the SE will make all sorts of promises about coming, but not turn up
Folks from the SW will turn up but wont travel north of Bristol
Folks from the East Midlands will go to huge lengths to attend often at great personal expence.
Folks from the West Midlands say they will come but usually fail to turn up ( Even when the Rv was only 18 miles from their home)
Folks from the north will go anywhere and can usually be relied on. at two RZs near Exter in the SW all who turned up were from north of Birmingham plus a few locals from Taunton.
The few Scots survivalists I've had the pleasure of meeting have driven from places like Cumbernauld and even Fort George to attend meets in the north east.
Survies and preppers from Ulster and Eire are also willing to make the effort with folks travelling from Limerick and Belfast to the English midlands.
For survivalists who claim to be prepared to bug out the UK is pretty **** poor and pathetic, The South east is the worst area but you find more Urban survivalists in that area who have loads of excuses as to why they can not relocate, they normally dont last long. The West Country folks take prep and the expence of it far more seriously but again they wont travel 90 miles to a meet so how do they expect to be able to survive if they fear driving past Briatol.
For younger survivalists who are not sure whether they are Bushcrafters or Disaster prep survivalists I believe that the Zombie Squad UK chapter meet up quite a bit in Birmingham city centre.
Usually if you find people asking for meets want to meet in a pub you know you are wasting your time, you want folks who E mail you and hassel you saying things like " Just set a date and time and a 6 fig GR and well be there". those are the rarest but most committed I've met.
Family groups will make the effort more than single under 25s
the Singles usually want to play Ray Mears clones and do bushcraft, those with wives and kids want to do serious survivalism.
To prove just how unreliable most of them are I'll tell you about my First RZ in the mid 90s. I asked who wanted to travel to a weekend long RZ at Oasis vilage in the Lake District. I was paying all the accomodation and food bills, I hired 4 x 4 bedroom luxury timber lodges on the word from the survivalists that they would turn up, just over £2K for the weekend it cost. All made 100% guarenteed promises they would turn up, then 1 by 1 they found excuses why they could not make it, plus a few from the SE ( where else) who said time after time they were coming but just did not turn up.
In the end it was me, 1 from Northumberland, Family from Wales, 1 from Preston, and 2 from Exeter who were relocating to Cumbria anyway.
Two things you must grasp and understand
(1) First find out if they are Survivalists or Bushcrafters, they are different beasts.
(2) Never believe a word they say until they are stood infront of you. Over 99% of " survivalists" on the Uk forums are Armchairs and Wannabes who talk the talk but never walk the walk.
I like the Yanks can do attitude, I met Merkins who DROVE over 1800 miles each way to attend an RX in Southern Colorado, others flew from Oregon. they are far more motivated and commited than us. with the best Merkin survivies appearing to come from CO/ OK/KS/NM areas.
Good luck with having a gathering , just make sure you attract the right group to the right event :upsidedown:
North of Bristol...Ooh, here there be dragons!!! :Folks from the SW will turn up but wont travel north of Bristol
Good Question,Basically they same as the do at American RZs, Meet socially, develop trust and communications between survivalists, exchange idea, techiques etc. discuss kit, transport, bug out plans, Barter, run little skills classes,try and create mutual support agreements etc have a look at www.wilderness-gathering.co.uk and look what the Bushcrat Community does, then imagine the Disaster Survival Community doing something similar.Northern Raider,
May be a silly question, but what to you do, or had planned to do on these meets?
I have been a bush crafter for a few years but I'm fairly new to Preparing and survivability,
SWMBO thinks I'm nuts!! Personally I like to think that at least one of us can help our family and still provide for our kids should the SHTF
Does that count for all of us about the E booklet? :Good Question,Basically they same as the do at American RZs, Meet socially, develop trust and communications between survivalists, exchange idea, techiques etc. discuss kit, transport, bug out plans, Barter, run little skills classes,try and create mutual support agreements etc have a look at www.wilderness-gathering.co.uk and look what the Bushcrat Community does, then imagine the Disaster Survival Community doing something similar.
He who has the information and contacts survives longest, I think I cover it fairly well in my little free E booklet on Survival retreating, if you want a copy just PM me with an E mail address and I'll send you a copy.
It's not just you, I think that appeals to others too, Beards.I think I would be up for meeting up, picking up some hints and tips...although for some reason I dont know if I'd fancy a campsite? Seems abit of a holiday club sort of thing, apposed to living out in the wild, etc....
Maybe its just me....?
Yes of course, please just PM me with an E mail address as its to large to send via the PM thingy.Does that count for all of us about the E booklet? :
I think I would be up for meeting up, picking up some hints and tips...although for some reason I dont know if I'd fancy a campsite? Seems abit of a holiday club sort of thing, apposed to living out in the wild, etc....
Maybe its just me....?
Yeah thats me to, I did my bushcrafting when I was a young man and a soldier, i'm more into prep and planning for families these days, I like people who want to pick up various skills as learning is always a good thing.It's not just you, I think that appeals to others too, Beards.
It doesn't appeal to me so much as I am more into "preparedness" as opposed to bushcraft, etc (although I wouldn't mind learning some) - and my desire is to meet up with like minded people with more of an emphasis on food storage and food storage cooking, alternative ways of heating the home, etc.
I think there are already bushcraft/outdoor survivalism things to go on, training on the like but if someone here wants to organize a meet up for you guys to go off to the woods - go for it!!
I'm just wishing I could even meet one family here with like goals....
Read the thread from the start old chap.Organising a meet does sound good, Im into the bushcraft side, guess thats what drew me in to the reality of being prepared, guess it opened my eyes....
Just curious, of all of thoses willing to meet up, which parts of the country are we from?
and how far are people willing to travel?