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We have a boat anchor on our economy Federally caused and Banking caused. Seems we are spending all of our hard earned on wars, welfare for the unemployed or just plain poor working for subsistence wages 128 million souls and printing gobs of banknotes still for creaky banks we should have let eat their own losses like any other failed business model in 2008.

Yes because of Boehner and Obama and the whole mess we call a Government we have printed trillions in new debt and not created jobs or stability for the country so I present you with...

These 11 States Now Have More People On Welfare Than Are Employed

 

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Emailing this out too. The biggest problem we have as a nation right now is not our crooked politicians, our wars, our national debt or any of the other problems we face. Our biggest problem is that "we the people" are unwilling to grow up and take a good hard look at the reality of our situation.

I have accidentally ended conversations by mentioning the most basic of things to people concerning the reality of our economic situation. They get a deer in the headlights look and just go blank.

Gotta say that is one UGLY map for a recovery isn't it
 

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Not a fan of entitlements but the article (really linked over from Forbes) is skewed.

Read deeper into the Forbes link and you find that it's not more "unemployed" than "employed".

They count state workers in the taker's category which isn't really true. Those folks are employed right or wrong.

Hatchet job.
 

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In, other words, an extremely unreliable source.

Forbes, the original source, does not say that those states have more unemployed.
Two factors determine whether a state makes this elite list of fiscal hellholes. The first is whether it has more takers than makers. A taker is someone who draws money from the government, as an employee, pensioner or welfare recipient. A maker is someone gainfully employed in the private sector.
http://www.forbes.com/sites/baldwin/2012/11/25/do-you-live-in-a-death-spiral-state/
 

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In, other words, an extremely unreliable source.

Forbes, the original source, does not say that those states have more unemployed.
Uh-huh... and those last hired at the DMV are most definitely worth their salary, health insurance & time off benefits... and pensions right? Now, before I get flamed about dissing all state employees - both of us were at one time, state employees. Lots of hard-working and dedicated folks -- who are working twice as hard because of the "warm bodies" who take more than they are worth. We just observed that there were a lot of people getting paid... that couldn't find their way out of a paper bag. They couldn't even push paper, correctly.

Warm bodies, filling a chair, sitting at a computer and answering a phone or email. And not worth much else.
 

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I would really like to see a revised chart of this type, that excludes those that are working for the government. Be it right or wrong, they are working for a living instead of drawing unemployment or welfare. Same with those collecting Social Security or a pension -- those were contributory to some degree.
 

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Uh-huh... and those last hired at the DMV are most definitely worth their salary, health insurance & time off benefits... and pensions right? Now, before I get flamed about dissing all state employees - both of us were at one time, state employees. Lots of hard-working and dedicated folks -- who are working twice as hard because of the "warm bodies" who take more than they are worth. We just observed that there were a lot of people getting paid... that couldn't find their way out of a paper bag. They couldn't even push paper, correctly.

Warm bodies, filling a chair, sitting at a computer and answering a phone or email. And not worth much else.
Nonetheless they are EMPLOYED. I'd hardly equate any worker to a Medicaid/SSI disability scammer. The article draws no distinction between the two.

The article is a hack job ... written in a way to accomplish exactly what it did.

Get sites like rense to link it and end up looking foolish ... along with all who jump on the bandwagon and email it out to everyone without taking the time to READ and discern whether or not it's valid.
 

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Key word being JOBS.

Federal, state, whatever, they are JOBS. Not "unemployed" or "takers".
How is being employed by the govt not equivalent to "taking." They aren't generating revenue. There are a miniscule number of govt jobs where something is actually produced and sold. While they earn a salary, it is basically the govt giving them $X, and then taking back y%*$X. The net is still the govt giving out money, originally collected from non govt employees.
 

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The only reason OK isn't on that map is that when asked if they have a job Meth cookers answered yes.
 

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How is being employed by the govt not equivalent to "taking." They aren't generating revenue. There are a miniscule number of govt jobs where something is actually produced and sold. While they earn a salary, it is basically the govt giving them $X, and then taking back y%*$X. The net is still the govt giving out money, originally collected from non govt employees.
I don't directly produce a product either. I internally support our company.
 

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I'm a FT employee of a private sector Agency. Problem is.... our clients, and the Agency are 100% based off sucking the taxpayers teat! Which means..... I'm guilty as charged.

The good news is, at least I'm not a welfare queen, right?

I completley agree with the definitions used to determine this map.
 
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