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Gorgeous area! As Offrink mentioned, a way to filter water, and store some in case of radiation. Study your prevailing winds to determine fall out risks from any likely nukes. You will need a way to construct a shelter, if you rent will the LL allow it? Do you have a well stocked pantry? If not start adding to it. Aim for a month's food, then three, six, etc.

How are your neighbors? Will they stand together in a tough time.

Are you able to get a gun permit for hunting or something? If so it might be worthwhile in a bad time.

Realistically, Putin is highly unlikely to mess with the UK. This ain't the Queen's first rodeo. He knows if he touches British soil Russia will no longer exist. But globally I feel that "We, the People of Earth" need to mutually remove all these pshcyos in power. Putin, Xi, Jung Un, Bolsenaro, the Burma junta, the Phillipeans just traded one despot for another one, and a few more, including ensuring Trump never gets close to the "button" ever again. If We don't stop it pdq sooner or later boys must play with their toys.
Maybe not the UK but what about Finland or Sweden. He shares a border with Scandinavia just like the Ukraine and now they are also talking about joining NATO. Right across the water from Scotland.
 

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You are doing fine. Good location. I would just keep practicing skills (esp water foraging/filter), meet a few neighbors when you can, and keep doing your thing.

Those small villages outside the cities are pretty good... can have your space, people know and look out for one another, etc. They are most likely to survive.

If the area gets rough, have a few places to go to and skills to get there. You are correct that areas outside the city are suddenly not far at all if folks come looking. A bug out bag in home and one in vehicle would be logical, 2-3 weeks water at home, and 2-3 months long life food (full pantry of your normal food plus some rice, beans, oats, hard tack, dry nuts, etc) is good. The garden and livestock stuff is nice but can't be counted on in a weather disaster or many others... plus, it attracts attention.

Anything much more isolated than that type of location usually has severe weather that is tough even for a highly skilled outdoorsman. You have the porridge that Goldilocks chose with remote but not ultra-rural either. I do the same type of setup.

The nuclear war or fallout stuff is tricky... you are basically screwed on that one. People like to pretend otherwise, but there just aren't many happy endings there - short of an underground life you probably don't want anyways. You can try to prep for that if you want, but I doubt you can do that much digging and excavation and pouring at a rental, lol. The more common SHTF for you would be weather (storms, drought, etc), riot/unrest in the city, civil or military war, pandemic, etc. Good luck
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Thank you ,your right about small remote communities and also about very remote areas ,when we lived further north it was very hard work and also very little grew well and we lost chickens to cold overnight sometimes
thank you re the car too
I forgot a bug out bag because until we moved here there was nowhere to go just miles of blanket bog and forestry
I didnt think about the car either because we havent had one very long my daughter only just got one .Its always stocked with basics for an overnight stay in it incase we break down on a back road because theres no phone signals and no houses and unlikely to be cars after dark .So we have woolies ,emergency food and meds ,first aid kit, those powerful multi purpose torches that also act as warning lights and rechage off the cars lighter also a little wind up torch ,those foil survival blankets and some throws,spare wellies ,shovel,visi vest and warning triangles ,,(probably wont want to use those in bug out emergency though :) ,bowls and cups ,though I forgot water because your never far from water here ,so thanks again for reminding me about that I will need to put some water in .
Also maybe buy a camouflage net for over the car because you were right there are places we could go to hide for maybe a couple of days but they are vast bare mountains so a car would stand out even down a side road .Nobody lives anywhere for maybe 50 miles or maybe further and no tourists use them because its too bleak and in winter very windy ,it wouldnt be possible to survive there long but safe for a few days if you had food,water and heat
We also have one of those fold out camping stoves with clip in cylinders which I put in the car in winter just incase and sachets of instant coffee ,chocolate soups etc.
But maybe need to put some of those hand warmers in .If we had to bug out I would probably take a pair of chickens I cant hunt so they are my protein source and if I have my cockeral I can always make more chickens if all mine were stolen.
 

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Maybe not the UK but what about Finland or Sweden. He shares a border with Scandinavia just like the Ukraine and now they are also talking about joining NATO. Right across the water from Scotland.
Hi yes your correct,,my last house was closer to Oslo than it was too London and here though we are about equal distance between Oslo and London ,we are still closer to Scandavian than European countries.
Putin sent fighters over Scotlands air space the day the Ukraine war started,they got short shift and "escorted" out of our air space ,but I guess he was just showing he could reach us .
Russian TV has also been full of how Putin can destroy the UK with offshore nuclear missiles that will cause tidal waves and how he could wipe London off the map ,its was on Russian TV every night last week .They said we had it coming and would be sorry for siding with Ukraine .We would be safe in both scenarios but its still worrying .
The UK is an easy target ,because we left the EU so mainland Europe wouldnt help us ,we are a nuclear power and Putin would get bombed in retaliation by our subs because they stay far out at sea,but compared to the US we wouldnt be able to do much damage so he could act the hard guy ,win some points and still keep most of his nuclear weapons in reserve .
Your right about Finland too , I know someone in Finland and those people living along the border are very concerned ,though Putin could never win any kind of war with Finland Most of the men and some women did military service ,Lots of people hunt and have very powerful rifles and are good shots ,one sniper alone during the winter war killed 500 enemy troops and those were only his confirmed kills the real figure was probably a lot higher ,plus Finland has well stocked huge bunkers for not just its its entire population but with surplus space for visitors,refugees etc.Its also got a state of the art air defence system.I dont think Sweden is as well prepared though and we just promised to stand by Sweden if Putin attacks them.
 

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Welcome Macleod. Sounds to me you are on the right track. If you have a well, water filtration is not as much of an issue. A way to retrieve it without electricity is certainly a requirement.

It sounds like you are more likely to need protection from nuclear fallout than a nuclear blast. I'm not sure what you'd call it in Scotland but some plastic sheeting and duct tape will ward off a lot of fallout particles. After a couple of weeks the danger lessens greatly. Bring the animals inside too.

You certainly live in beautiful country. A net for the salmon river would be handy but the samon could be subject to fallout.
Hi thank you .
We used to have our own well ,here the water for the hamlet comes from an underground reservoir nearby and the sewage goes to a tiny water treatment plant just down from the house So I am not sure but I think the houses here might be ok even if the national water supple had problems ,the lochs serve some communities but I would guess those would get a lot of fall out .
Your correct about the sheeting etc ,its called plastic sheeting here and,people have started calling the tape duct tape .We need to get some duct tape I totally forgot about that ,thanks , but at least we have some special masking tape its not as thick but sticks to any surface at all ,glass ,plaster,brick even flooring so its almost as good if theres a attack in the next week or so .Though I doubt we could survive it long.We have multi vitamins and mineral suppliments and I bought Iodine tablets and charcoal is on order and we always have spare food for us and the pets but other than that we have nothing.Though I got the back pantry area sealed totatly incase we needed to shelter from a blasts light,we keep our rooster in there overnight so he doesnt wake the neighbours so its def light proof ,we would be protected by mountains and hills from any other damage ,but we are nowhere near any kind of target at all ,the only thing Putin could kill here are sheep deer and maybe damage a mountain. I am really hoping that would make us safe
 

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Yes I worry about that its hard to stockpile medicine here in the UK because most of it has to be prescribed ,I couldnt even get any form of medication for my birds because we had an avian flu lockdown and anyone asking for chicken meds ended up with defra on their doorstep.
But I bought Iodine tablets as I read those were the main thing you ought to take if there was a problem with radiation ,either an accident or bomb and I wondered about buying other radiation linked stuff like charcoal or D.E

This is my experience, but for bird flu, sauerkraut is the best way to protect them until a vaccination is created. I feed mine a good 1/2 gallon of kraut a day an they love it. The government isn't looking for people who like kraut on their sausages so you don't have to worry about them showing up to check your chickens.
 

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Hi yes your correct,,my last house was closer to Oslo than it was too London and here though we are about equal distance between Oslo and London ,we are still closer to Scandavian than European countries.
Putin sent fighters over Scotlands air space the day the Ukraine war started,they got short shift and "escorted" out of our air space ,but I guess he was just showing he could reach us .
Russian TV has also been full of how Putin can destroy the UK with offshore nuclear missiles that will cause tidal waves and how he could wipe London off the map ,its was on Russian TV every night last week .They said we had it coming and would be sorry for siding with Ukraine .We would be safe in both scenarios but its still worrying .
The UK is an easy target ,because we left the EU so mainland Europe wouldnt help us ,we are a nuclear power and Putin would get bombed in retaliation by our subs because they stay far out at sea,but compared to the US we wouldnt be able to do much damage so he could act the hard guy ,win some points and still keep most of his nuclear weapons in reserve .
Your right about Finland too , I know someone in Finland and those people living along the border are very concerned ,though Putin could never win any kind of war with Finland Most of the men and some women did military service ,Lots of people hunt and have very powerful rifles and are good shots ,one sniper alone during the winter war killed 500 enemy troops and those were only his confirmed kills the real figure was probably a lot higher ,plus Finland has well stocked huge bunkers for not just its its entire population but with surplus space for visitors,refugees etc.Its also got a state of the art air defence system.I dont think Sweden is as well prepared though and we just promised to stand by Sweden if Putin attacks them.
I don’t necessarily see him nuking one of those countries but if he does, I don’t think it would be a major city but more like just something to prove a point in one of the Scandinavian countries, an outlying area or fishing port or something but the fallout would still be massive. If he decides to go insane and nuke the UK, it would definitely be London because if he nukes it at all, he knows it will be World War III so he would go for the throat immediately. I just can’t imagine he is that insane. I could see him nuking the Ukraine and I still don’t know that other countries would come to their defense at that point because he is sitting on something like 5000 nukes and if he uses one, he will be willing to use them all. he will have nothing to lose at that point.
 
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