I have found some products called Solvent Trap Adaptors which are sold for "Cleaning purposes only ". They allow an oil filter to be attached to your firearm just like the Econocan Supressor.
Do these work? Apparently they are for cleaning purposes only, which I understand. Thanks.
Solvent Trap Adaptors
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Unless you have a tax stamp, stay far away from them, if you can attach an oil filter it will be called a silencer and will get you in trouble with the ATF.
It will.... If you pull the trigger once.
This has been discussed in the last 2 months....
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Even if you assemble it. The statute of limitations is 3 years, if anyone is curious. The penalty is pretty severe, I forget, exactly, but you WILL be butthurt if convicted. It's not a petty $1K fine or something soft.
I do not believe this is accurate.
This article outlines my understanding of the situation.
If you have a letter from the ATF technical branch stating otherwise, or can reference a court case determining otherwise, please post it.
http://specializedparts.hubpages.com/hub/Are-Solvent-Trap-Adapters-Legal
Found a letter, not sure if it's real, but here you go:
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http://www.texasguntalk.com/forums/rimfire/48637-solvent-trap-adapter-2.html
Says you are incorrect.
If you'd like to write the technical branch.... Please post the letter.
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Your asking for trouble
They make legitimate oil filter adapters that you are required to purchase a federal stamp to own. The attachment you are referring to should be avoided like the plague. There is no grey area. They are illegal unless you buy the stamp. I would never suggest one risks their second amendment right by doing something illegal. They are no fools they know what they are for.
Yes your second amendment rights are a right to bear arms. However that seems to be ignored if you give them a reason ( in their mind ) to take that right away.
Because suppressor parts were being found at gunshows the federal gov outlawed all parts that are used to make a suppressor. If you found a letter saying you can own it. I would burn it. Because its BS and if you think that will prevent you from going to jail, well I wouldn't count on it. And the penalty? It's about the same punishment for man slaughter. I hope I helped.
PS Purchase one legally if you can and you want one that bad.
PSS It IS possible that they changed the law but I highly doubt it. I'm not going to research it. AS I wouldn't trust anything on the internet compared to actual legal council.
They make legitimate oil filter adapters that you are required to purchase a federal stamp to own. The attachment you are referring to should be avoided like the plague. There is no grey area. They are illegal unless you buy the stamp. I would never suggest one risks their second amendment right by doing something illegal. They are no fools they know what they are for.
Yes your second amendment rights are a right to bear arms. However that seems to be ignored if you give them a reason ( in their mind ) to take that right away.
Because suppressor parts were being found at gunshows the federal gov outlawed all parts that are used to make a suppressor. If you found a letter saying you can own it. I would burn it. Because its BS and if you think that will prevent you from going to jail, well I wouldn't count on it. And the penalty? It's about the same punishment for man slaughter. I hope I helped.
PS Purchase one legally if you can and you want one that bad.
PSS It IS possible that they changed the law but I highly doubt it. I'm not going to research it. AS I wouldn't trust anything on the internet compared to actual legal council.
I see them nonchalantly displayed and sold at gun shows in all the convenient calibers. I suspect that the ATF can and, most likely, will issue a ruling addressing solvent cans at some point.
When I say "ruling", I mean closed door session where the decision becomes de facto law. As I understand it, the ATF (much like the IRS) has the extrajudicial power to rule on areas that fall under their umbrella of governance.
My hunch is that the ATF knows all about what's going on but have yet to prosecute for lack of resources or they're too busy do other things at the moment. But some bureaucrats love pet issues like this and all it will take it is one or two idealistic, anti gun paper pushers to go "full chub". At that point, I'd be too spooked to even have an innocent ol' oil filter around, let alone the threaded adapter lest I be guilty of "constructive intent" or whatever they're calling it.
As it stands now, you're probably in the clear to have one. Heck, even attach it to the muzzle and use it to catch solvents. But these idiots on youtube who actually pull the trigger without a stamp are going to be SWATted hard at some point.
Even if you they win the court case, how much time, energy, and money have they spent? Was that time in jail worth it, even if they are exonerated? I'll pay the $200 and get a legitimate suppressor, thanks.
When I say "ruling", I mean closed door session where the decision becomes de facto law. As I understand it, the ATF (much like the IRS) has the extrajudicial power to rule on areas that fall under their umbrella of governance.
My hunch is that the ATF knows all about what's going on but have yet to prosecute for lack of resources or they're too busy do other things at the moment. But some bureaucrats love pet issues like this and all it will take it is one or two idealistic, anti gun paper pushers to go "full chub". At that point, I'd be too spooked to even have an innocent ol' oil filter around, let alone the threaded adapter lest I be guilty of "constructive intent" or whatever they're calling it.
As it stands now, you're probably in the clear to have one. Heck, even attach it to the muzzle and use it to catch solvents. But these idiots on youtube who actually pull the trigger without a stamp are going to be SWATted hard at some point.
Even if you they win the court case, how much time, energy, and money have they spent? Was that time in jail worth it, even if they are exonerated? I'll pay the $200 and get a legitimate suppressor, thanks.
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Go here and read what the manufacturer has to say.
Oil Filter Suppressor
As of right now the solvent trap only becomes an NFA item when you use it as one. Don't do that.
Al
Oil Filter Suppressor
As of right now the solvent trap only becomes an NFA item when you use it as one. Don't do that.
Al
The OP is a government shill. This topic has been covered many times. They are trolling the webs for anything to damn gun owners.
Another example is the other new poster that started a thread asking for a 80% build party. We all know a federal ban ended that a at least a year ago. Saddly some fool suggested a machine shop that could help ( highly illegal). http://www.survivalistboards.com/showthread.php?t=342469
This forum has had some major gov trolling for awhile now. It's a garantee that anyone who frequents these forums is having their entire lives and habits digitally recorded and saved in Utah. Wave and say hi to the NSA.
Another example is the other new poster that started a thread asking for a 80% build party. We all know a federal ban ended that a at least a year ago. Saddly some fool suggested a machine shop that could help ( highly illegal). http://www.survivalistboards.com/showthread.php?t=342469
This forum has had some major gov trolling for awhile now. It's a garantee that anyone who frequents these forums is having their entire lives and habits digitally recorded and saved in Utah. Wave and say hi to the NSA.
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The whole thing is stupid has an illegal silencer ever been used in a crime . The Government regulates silencers because politicians watch too many movies and are afraid of them. I think you should be able to get a prescription for one from you doctor to prevent hearing loss.
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Hi NSA!
*extends fist, raises finger*
On topic, nope, not going to touch one of those. Interesting novelty from a scientific perspective, but not worth the legal hassle.
*extends fist, raises finger*
On topic, nope, not going to touch one of those. Interesting novelty from a scientific perspective, but not worth the legal hassle.
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Why don't you assemble one and post a picture
It's the same as putting a 10.3'' upper on an unregistered lower...noone cares if you inhaled or not. You manufactured an NFA item sans license. Period.
Your letter specifically states this...
Yes, it has. I suggest you look up the case of the US Federal Prosecutor that got whacked a couple of years ago. They are pretty well convinced he was "hit" with a silenced Makarov. Not that they will admit it but the evidence they have been looking for sure points that way......that and the facts surrounding the killing itself.
Here-http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thomas_C._Wales
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Of course lots of times look up hits done by the Italian mob most are done with a suppressed 22lr pistol.
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I saw it in that move "the Professional"
Leon was pretty cool in that movie. The ending was really sad though.
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Never seen it but just read the book Hit Man: A Technical Manual for Independent Contractors.
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I remember the witch hunt for everybody that bought a threaded Makarov barrel from a certain manufacturer.
Yea, they were not shy in "asking" people to "cooperate" at all.
to be honest its not something that couldn't be replicated with a plastic soda bottle, layers of cloth and some good old fashion duct tape. no need for the adapter and oil filter. its not rocket science.
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