Uncontrolable laughter!!!

 

Thanks for the heads-up. This should get more interesting...

 

So much for thinking about buying stock.

 

Yup...watch out Washington. You're next!

 

It seems like these growers were selling strictly in the black market and across state lines. Still complete BS and a waste of taxes but at first I thought they were raiding legit legal growers.

 

Were they violating state or federal laws? The stories were not clear on this matter, and it is a very important sticking point.

 

Agree with it or not, isn't it still against Federal Law?

 

Opens up a lot of topics of discussion. Who calls the shots? The Feds or the States? I like to think the Constitution still is in effect and the 10th Amendment actually means something. Besides, I don't think the Feds were involved in the raids.

 

And not a single person who smokes or buys weed, did not still smoke and buy weed.

 

We will be seeing more and more of this. I would think mostly from local Sheriffs who are trying to appease their constituents.

 

From the articles it appears the only people raided were illegal growers that were hiding among legal ones.

 

Seems like it is much less risky to trade in illegal weed that legal weed. At least on the black market, they have to do a little work to find you.

 

So what constitutes an illegal grower compared to a legal grower?

I don't have a permit to grow my tomato plants...Oh nooosss...Im an illegal tomato grower. Who gives a flying farcus! People of Colorado said let there be smoke on a ballot. So...let there be smoke.

 

They were basically just sorting out the ones who are paying the government for the right to sell drugs vs. those that aren't. When you don't pay the mafia for "protection", they come into your store and knock over all your merchandise and destroy it.

 

Good get rid of the pot growers.

We deal with them in our area.

They are why I have to be armed to the teeth just to be on my own property.

I call the Sherriff when ever I see suspicious cars and people around here.

They bust big grow spots all the time.

 

If they simply legalized it then the scumbag growers would grow it on their own property and leave yours alone.:thumb:

 

seems to me the feds pic and choose what laws they want to inforce so now i dont feel i have to obay any fed law at all f..k them they let mexicans do what ever they want its time we do the same.they still have no proof that pot is worse than booze.

 

When I was in college I was for keeping MJ illegal. I took a class that required several opinion papers. One I chose to do was concerning this issue. I looked at the harm MJ causes from a purely clinical standpoint. I did not look at the social or interpersonal issues because those boil down to individual people and their reaction to drugs. From a purely chemicals going into your body stand point, MJ is considerably worse than alcohol. MJ is also considerably worse than cigarettes. MJ is only slightly worse than drinking and smoking cigarettes as a pair. After working many years on the streets I can't recall seeing someone who smoked MJ who also didn't consume alcohol and smoke tobacco.

During this class it also occurred to me that it really isn't government's business what I put into my body, as long as I'm not out putting other people in danger. In those instances it is actually the placing other s in danger that should be regulated, not the taking of drugs.

 

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if the state wasnt getting thier pound of flesh hey why not let the DEA be the bad guy? they cant get enough smoke in colorado to feed the demand lots of california smoke goes to Colorado. personlly if i was going to beinvolved in that business id follow the laws and play everything above board why be greedy?
A legal moneymaking business as opposed to going to jail please The medical dispensaries in california are making lots of money playing above board the feds havent raided anything around my area for some time now.

 

You can not pass a state law that goes against a federal law. Federal law trumps state law, and this legal weed BS will only last until a Republican gets into office; or a real federal attorney general is put into place. We already know the rest of the current administration won't uphold the law unless it goes against their reelection.

 

We just need to forget that pesky Tenth Amendment right?

 

Anyone that thinks that "weed" was ever legal in Colorado is deluding themselves.

What they did was to turn a right into a permission with different criminal penalties than that had previously, and then loudly proclaim to the world that weed was legalized. Then the dummies of the world all believe it. They really do. They think that weed has been legalized. Nothing could be further from the truth.

Go to one of these states where "weed is legal' and grow a small field of it, and then sell it from your farmers market stand and then tell me how legal it is.

 

FEDERAL LAW TRUMPS STATE LAW?

How did people get so freaking dumbed down? 50 years ago most 8th graders could credibly argue at the absurdness of this statement. Today most of the Adults (that attended government run schools) don't have a clue.... (do you see the conflict of interest here in government running our schools?)

THE ONLY areas where the federal government has any authority on anything are the very few and specific areas where the sovereign states have delegated some of their authority to the Federal government in a legal contract known as the US Constitution.

And guess what boys and girls? There is no authority delegated whatsoever to the Federal government in the area of "drugs". Any federal involvement in drugs by the Federal government is blatantly unconstitutional. Is it any wonder the county is in such a mess when people don't even understand the basics?

 

Pete...r they clearly did not grant any such power to the Feds.
Marbury v Madison 1803 says that any law repugnant to the Constitution never was law.

I also submit to you that since you own your body, and not the state, that it is your inalienable right to choose what you ingest,and that any law whether by the Feds, the State, a County, or a local municipality would be illegitimate because legitimate law protects inalienable rights, legitimate law does not violate inalienable rights.

A law criminalizing what people choose to ingest is about as illegitimate as a law that would make people slaves, and for the very same reasons.

 

Has anyone here been to a country/city where Marijuana is legal and saw the crime, despair, and addiction?

 

That is an irreverent argument SeeBee. That would be like arguing that blacks should be made slaves again because of inner city violence, or that all people should be sterilized because that would stop child abuse.....

But to answer your illegitimate concern (that our rights should depend on some subjective criteria) yes Portugal "legalized" ALL drugs 10 or 15 years ago and the addiction rates have been halved, and crime is way down.

Another example: The US prior to 1930. Addiction to drugs was much less and drug crime was unheard of in the US prior to 1930.

Do some research and you will learn the the alcoholism rates tripled during alcohol prohibition and as you probably know the crime rate went through the roof....

 

They didnt even wait to blame it on repubs. all these dope heads thought president ebola was giving them free weed. Instead president ebola got the dope heads to support a new "tax". The tax man cometh. I said last couple years, the only way weed will be legal is when the "man" finds a new way to double the profits they were currently making, and they did.

 

Um. OK.

I don't feel controlled by the war on drugs. But it is an interesting point.

 

It's interesting to watch so many people get all Constitutional and individual and states-rights about weed, right along with the big claim that there's no difference between use of weed vs use of alcohol. In fact the argument always is that weed should be made legal like alcohol, regulated and taxed, and that this is the reason the government needs to legalize it.

Yet is there any doubt that there must be controls over the production and sale of alcoholic products? Of course not. Few people actually suggest that its a good idea for Hootch and Benny to be making and distributing corn moonshine out the basement of their tenement building. Why so with weed then? Well because it's weed of course, and everyone gets all anarchist when it comes to their own weed, right?

If you're going to make the argument that weed should be treated like booze, then don't be hypocritical... accept it across the board in both its legalization and its regulation.

The fact is that there is no reason in CO to be going about it illegally because legal is an option. Let these cannabis cowboys ride with the herd if they want to be legal, and its so much simpler to be legal with it than it is to get a federal license to produce whiskey.

 

I don't smoke weed but do make my own beer. Without a Federal License.

 

We need a 28th Amendment!