[Nomad 2nd]

Feeding issues. Inaccurate. Poorly finished. Sloppy triggers. My "vast" experience is only with 3 of them. Century arms importer too. Go figure. You mentioned those being bad.

Feeding issues:

I've had those. (century guns) what I like about AK's is e first 3 mags out f them will tell you if it has issues or not.
They went back to century, no issues.

Inaccurate:
Compared to what?
M1, M16, and AK all had 4MOA accuracy standards.

Only AK's I've found that won't do that we're the badly built ones with key holing issues. (went back)


Finish:
Couldn't care less. I can dura coat and parkerise.
Then there's Krylon.

Triggers:
Some early WASR's had "ground down" POS modified full auto triggers.
A $22 G2 trigger assembly fixes these (which are rare now)


You mention 3:
No offense, but I've built dozens, and messed with hundreds.
They have their limitations, but inside 300-350.....


I have a WASR wi over 19,000 rounds through it. I'd depend on it with my life.
I knw of others with higher round counts....

 

[falloutmike]

None taken. I noted my experience with 3 to point out that I DON'T have much experience with them. The experience I have is bad though. Bad accuracy is 5-6 moa at 100 yards. And im a good shot. The ak74 is a bit better at roughly 4moa. Im currently sour on the entire platform. If I had a good one I may feel different.

 

[Nomad 2nd]

None taken. I noted my experience with 3 to point out that I DON'T have much experience with them. The experience I have is bad though. Bad accuracy is 5-6 moa at 100 yards. And im a good shot. The ak74 is a bit better at roughly 4moa. Im currently sour on the entire platform. If I had a good one I may feel different.

Still got any?

Shoot me a Pm if your comfortable telling me where in MS you are.
I may be able to help.


-I should point out, in all cases (m1/16/47) those standards are for rifle AND ammunition.

Sometimes the "made for export" 7.62x39 is a little.... Lacking.

 

[falloutmike]

Thats what I was talking about along. The imported parts guns from places like century arms. They are not a true depiction of what an AK is capable of. I may hit you up whenever I feel like playing with one again. Im no gunsmith.

 

[Nomad 2nd]

Thats what I was talking about along. The imported parts guns from places like century arms. They are not a true depiction of what an AK is capable of. I may hit you up whenever I feel like playing with one again. Im no gunsmith.

Apparently not, as I was talking about the quality of the AMMO.

 

[Musibike]

I guess my lack of experience would exclude my opinion on this one? They all three seem to offer sufficient performance as far as I have used these. I own at least several of each type. And, all have never exhibited any type of problems to the extent I have used them.

 

[Brew]

This place called "combat-land" where the hajies usually shot up most of their ammo in attempts to hit us before we killed em.

Some guys toted AK's.... It was amazing how much they had to scrounge for ammo.

Explosives were much more common.
(yes, I could tell you were being sarcastic) :thumb:

But..But....in the games there are ammo crates and med crates and power ups and weapon upgrades and level up cheat codes and and and......:

On a side note, you may be able to get .22 ammo by feeling you way through bear or cougar poop. It could be hiding there.

 

[falloutmike]

Ammo, yes, most people shoot the cheap stuff through the AK. I only shoot precision h andloads through the AR. Im good for 1.5" 100 groups with the irons with those rounds.

 

[patdaly]

Take whichever one you like that works.

I get bloody tired of AK this and AR that.

I have 3 AK's, all Norincos from the 80's NEVER had a failure, ever.

I have a few more AR's, all good stuff, but basically Milspec except for one. I have Colts, RRA's and Frankenguns, NEVER a failure, ever.

I had a couple of SKS's back in the 80's, can't remember, but I think they were Norincos as well, never had one of them fail either.

I'm grabbing my AR when the time comes, the caliber I choose to carry is still to be determined.

Try THAT with your AK.

 

[Sweeper80]

None taken. I noted my experience with 3 to point out that I DON'T have much experience with them. The experience I have is bad though. Bad accuracy is 5-6 moa at 100 yards. And im a good shot. The ak74 is a bit better at roughly 4moa. Im currently sour on the entire platform. If I had a good one I may feel different.

Best I've achieved with my AK has been 3MOA, both wifey's SKS and my own are capable of that with cheap TulAmmo, I've yet to work up a specific SKS load thus far, though I do have a few loads ready to test in them. My AR, on the other hand, is MOA all day, even with factory loads. All that said, my AK is my go to gun, far more reliable than my AR (even though my AR is pretty danged reliable) as well as packing a much more devastating projectile.

 

[falloutmike]

Im kinda curious what these loads would do with a low power optic. Im sure I would be sub moa. Don't really want one on it permanently though.

 

[Sweeper80]

Take whichever one you like that works.


I'm grabbing my AR when the time comes, the caliber I choose to carry is still to be determined.

Try THAT with your AK.

You mean like having choices like 5.45, X39, 54R, .308, .410, 20 or 12 gauge AK variants? Seems like you can get an AR or AK platform rifle in just about any chambering you want these days.

 

[Marlin94]

You mean like having choices like 5.45, X39, 54R, .308, .410, 20 or 12 gauge AK variants? Seems like you can get an AR or AK platform rifle in just about any chambering you want these days.

Don't forget 223/5.56

 

[TimberRattler]

I like my yugo sks it doesnt cost much to shoot, it doesnt jam and its as accurate as i am best grouping thus far is 3 in. at 100 yards shooting wolf. I would trust my life to the rifle, only complaint is the stock is to short for my arms.

As far as the ak goes I like them but theyre just not my cup of tea. Also has a short stock.. I believe every other country besides america has short arms.

Ar 15 theyre fun to shoot but im not familiar with the sights on them guess I have not shot them enough, and Im not a fan of the 223/5.56x45. I do like the accuracy the platform provides and the adjustable stock is a winner in my book. This is just my opinion dont flame me to bad I am new..

 

[Sweeper80]

Don't forget 223/5.56

Yeah, I forgot .22, too, lol. The two most popular military pattern rifles are both pretty much available in just about any caliber.

I like my yugo sks it doesnt cost much to shoot, it doesnt jam and its as accurate as i am best grouping thus far is 3 in. at 100 yards shooting wolf. I would trust my life to the rifle, only complaint is the stock is to short for my arms.

As far as the ak goes I like them but theyre just not my cup of tea. Also has a short stock.. I believe every other country besides america has short arms.

Ar 15 theyre fun to shoot but im not familiar with the sights on them guess I have not shot them enough, and Im not a fan of the 223/5.56x45. I do like the accuracy the platform provides and the adjustable stock is a winner in my book. This is just my opinion dont flame me to bad I am new..

I've wondered about the whole short arm scenario myself, lol. My SKS has a Ram-line stock from the late 80's-early 90's, better length of pull on that stock, and it has a single point sling mount at the bottom of the pistol grip situated just about perfectly, IMO.

 

[patdaly]

You mean like having choices like 5.45, X39, 54R, .308, .410, 20 or 12 gauge AK variants? Seems like you can get an AR or AK platform rifle in just about any chambering you want these days.

LOL, now try changing the caliber of your main one in less than 15 seconds........:juggle:

Or bringing 2 along just in case........

 

[Sweeper80]

LOL, now try changing the caliber of your main one in less than 15 seconds........:juggle:

Or bringing 2 along just in case........

Never saw the point in having an upper without a lower to go with it. Stripped lowers and LPK's are cheap enough that you might as well just have spare rifles instead of spare uppers.

I need to build another AR soon......... Was thinking .300BLK, but my X39 rifles already fill that ballistics role, so I've been debating on .308 or 6.5.....

 

[Nomad 2nd]

LOL, now try changing the caliber of your main one in less than 15 seconds........:juggle:

Or bringing 2 along just in case........

Never understood this....


You people think your going to be packing a, or several Spair uppers, different types of mags, AMD several types of ammo....

Life ain't a video game.

 

[Standard]

Mine is the SKS. Not because I think it's "better" than the other choices, but because it's what I have, what I'm comfortable with, and it just plain works.
I've had AKs and ARs, but still own the SKS.
It feels solid, it's reliable as hell, it's quite accurate for its role, the bayonet is always there, it doesn't require any external parts (mags/sights/bayonet), and I just really enjoy it.
I put my 50s Norinco into a Yugo stock and it feels a lot better. Like someone else mentioned, the LOP on some of them is quite short, like an AK.

 

[Glock19 RTF]

Between the 3 AR or AK. I like ARs so that's what I would go with for general SHTF(most scenarios I could see happening). For a civil war in an urban area type situation depending on how things went supply and organizational wise I could see using a AK in 7.62 for penetration.

I don't really see how the SKS compares to the AK or AR. It's heavier, larger, less capacity, less quality aftermarket and slower to load and now comparatively expensive.

I'd take an AK or AR with 30 in the mag over a SKS with 10 in the gun and 30 on stripper clips any day of the week.