I'd take a Marlin '94 in .45 anyday. Just my opinion though.

 

I'd tend to agree as this is a historically battle hardened """100 yard""" combat weapon that can be relied upon to work every time.

 

Id pick a shotgun personaly. simple reason lots of uses. More then a sks and it can shoot 100 yards with a slug.

 

While I love the SKS, for it's price, accuracy, the round it uses, sturdiness, and many other features..... Ultimately the AK has it beat I think. If for anything, it's shorter, and can more easily and quickly pump out a lot more lead. It is far more suited for Urban Combat.

Instead of all these AR vs AK threads, we need an AK vs SKS thread!:xeye::

Also let me emphasize the SKS is a FANTASTIC firearm. I own two Soviet made ones and they are GREAT rifles. Honestly, I would take an SKS over an AR:taped: , but my SGL21 (AK) will always be my MBR.:thumb:

 

Agree with this guy. In an urban environment (and most cases really) I'd take an AK or AR over an SKS.

In a shtf scenario, I don't care if my weapon invokes the "oh no an assualt rifle!!!" response. Chances are, if you have ANY gun a stranger is going to question your friendliness; you may as well have the extra firepower that other weapons offer.

 

one thing good about a SKS is that there is no magazines to worry about , get your self a bunch of stripper clips and your good to go !

 

but then you have a bunch of stripper clips to worry about :

 

If you can't get an AK, the SKS is fine...as long as you master the stripper-clip loading!!!

 

Of all my firearms the one I like best is the closest one.

 

All my Rifles, Hand Guns and Shotguns are SKS's

 

Don't agree at all.

The SKS design is not short at all and the fixed stock will ensure you will be targeted and disarmed by whatever corrupt police remain. Resist and you will get shot.

Dont believe me? Try reading FerFAL's blog about Argentina. Or read about the New Orleans Katrina debacle.

If you insist on trying to remain in an urban environment you should start think concealed weapons. Start with a full sized semi auto pistol in the biggest caliber that you can shoot with confidence. Then buy two more. The corrupt cops will confiscate (steal) your weapon to sell on the black market.

Perhaps the best long gun for carry in an urban area is defense carbine with either a folding or telescoping stock. Something like an AK under folder. Or a shot gun with a short barrel and folding stock. Or a Ruger mini with folding stock.

 

you better have bugged out or be hidden or shoot first if they come taking guns. the concerned pistol will be taken, they will stop everyone and anyone out on street, "come here boy" and pat you down.

 

yes the SKS is a great shtf rifle. ONE HECK of a lot better than none!
other good ones are pistol-caliber carbines with hi-cap mags, M1 carbine, even lever action rifles.
it seems the makers are selling semi-auto pistol-carbines as fast as they can be turned out. me and 2 nephews have 9mm's. with +P ammo hard-hitting.

 

There are a lot of good choices in 100 yard rifles. The SKS is one of the lowest cost ones, especially considering that you don't have to invest the cost of the rifle in magazines.

Other good options are any of the lever actions, the M1 carbine (a favorite of mine), an AK, mini-14, etc.

 

SKS is a reasonable choice. The "BEST" though? No, just a short list contender.

 

I have a few SKS', I can't argue the point. If you're not worried your weapon has the "assault" look, then I think the SKS, AK and AR (in no particular order) are the best urban SHTF weapons. During and after SHTF, it doesn't matter WHAT the weapons look like, they'll all look like "assault" rifles.

But I agree that the SKS would be the most efficient for urban SHTF, at least for my family, JMHO.

 

If you are ever forced into the situation were you can only have whats on your back, anything is better than nothing. Be it an sks,Ar,ak, shotgun, surplus bolt rifle anything is better than nothing......your mind is your best weapon

 

Agreed

 

I'm gonna agree with most. I shoot my sks with irons out to 300 feet and beable to hit a person. But i practice within 100 ft. Im not lookn for any battles. And i know the sks will hold up better than any ar. I find the gun to be just right for me. Im not rambo, and im not pretending to be. The sks will send 10 aimed rounds down range very quick. i dont need 30 round mags. i want a gun that will stand up to anything, have a decent mag and good irons. Also must be semi automatic. I love my winchester, but for the repeatability sks wins over my winchester. I love the pump, and thats my primary. I have an sks but im goin with my mossberg, but i wouldnt feel under gunned with an sks....... strippers are just as quick as mag changes. big mags=Wasted ammo.

 

Im not rambo, and im not pretending to be. The sks will send 10 aimed rounds down range very quick. i dont need 30 round mags. big mags=Wasted ammo.

If all you have is an SKS then fine, but it's not better than an AK. Why can't you send 10 aimed rounds down the range just as quick with an AK?

Why do you need to "waste" all 30 rounds from a 30 round mag? Can't you just shoot 10 and stop? Wouldn't these 20 additional rounds not be wasted then?

What if your first 10 aimed rounds don't hit anything or don't hit everything and they're still shooting? Wouldn't 20 more rounds that are ready to go....be better than 0 rounds + having to reload....TWICE?

Then there's the 50 round mag. AK > SKS.

 

Thats a hard one.I love my SKS but also have as much affection for my AR,AK,Shotgun,.22 and mini 14.If I had to just grab one it would be my AR.Mni 14 would make a a good choice though.

 

I've been thinking alot. I think the "best" all around Urban survival rifle in side 100 yards, Would have to be the SKS rifle. WHy well its short clears most hall ways and rooms without a problem, has a bullet proof deisgn, works dirty hard hitter.able to mount a scope/reddot. Can go out to the woods and harvest an animal for food. and with the 10 round mag, and wood, without bayonet on it, doesnt invoke "assult rifle". Oh no. its mostly wood, its all mill:ed steel and it works when most quit. I think the Sks is the best urban survival rifle. Its faster than my 94' Winchester and holds 3 more faster harder rounds.

"assault rifle" you dream my friend. Every rifle used in urban america the last 15 years is the AK-47. You might say they're all AKA-47s:

 

Cz

Well I have a decently wide range of firearms, including two sks (Chinese and Rusky) as well as a CZ858.
I like the Cz over the Sks as it has the folding stock and is easier to field strip. Irons are almost identical. I Can shoot the CZ folded if need be.
The cz is also lighter then the AK which can mean alot when running.

I LOVE my Sks though, And would comfortably hand it to an ally, knowing it will go bang everytime, and it's got a smaller Length of pull and a managable recoil. The Sks, In Canada anyway, can be considered "The survivors rifle", becAuse everyone and their dog has one or three by now. I got one of mine for $75 with an ammo purchase. Cheap life saving insurance in x number of situation. As a commonly traded item. Best however, if
That's all you can afford. Plus ammo is dirt cheap, and the AR crowd feels that burn daily ladies and gents.

 

QUOTE=ZZ7;3627435]If all you have is an SKS then fine, but it's not better than an AK. Why can't you send 10 aimed rounds down the range just as quick with an AK? Im sayinng the sks can send 10 aimed roundsjust as good if not better than the AK.

Why do you need to "waste" all 30 rounds from a 30 round mag? Can't you just shoot 10 and stop? Wouldn't these 20 additional rounds not be wasted then? If your at the range, WHy do you need 30 rounds mags? i learned really quick that ammo isnt cheap anymore and i want to get my oneys worth of not just "spray and pray." Im sayin is a pretty good target rifle to. I train with it, but i dont need to send 2,3 or 4 roundsDown range all at once.

What if your first 10 aimed rounds don't hit anything or don't hit everything and they're still shooting? Wouldn't 20 more rounds that are ready to go....be better than 0 rounds + having to reload....TWICE? If i cant hit anything with the first ten I shouldnt be there in the first place,.I think the sksis a great weapon for urban settings. You can get great reliable tapcos mags to. and have a great working defense piece and a hunting rifle. I dont need to fight. I d rather not be seen, and I dont wanna carry all the evtra stuff on me for people to mistake me for military, or some one who lokks like them. DOnt need it, Blend in.I can reload my sks pretty darn fast in a seated, laying, back against a truck tire, and so on. I know its limitations, and it had a pretty damn good round. Im a huge fan of the sks, and i cant see any other rifle fillling the battle,/hunt/survive rifle.Im biest.

 

QUOTE=ZZ7;3627435] Im sayinng the sks can send 10 aimed roundsjust as good if not better than the AK.

The AK is still more versatile.

If your at the range, WHy do you need 30 rounds mags? i learned really quick that ammo isnt cheap anymore and i want to get my oneys worth of not just "spray and pray."

Really, so you go to the range and only shoot only 10 rounds then go home? How much gas did it cost to get there and how much is the range fee...then the time used to get there and to go home?

I have no idea why this is so difficult for you to understand? You don't have to shoot all 30 rounds of a 30 round mag.

Im sayin is a pretty good target rifle to. I train with it, but i dont need to send 2,3 or 4 roundsDown range all at once.

Who says you have to do this with an AK? You talk like you're some expert marksman yet you try to label anyone with an AK as someone who would automatically "spray & pray"? What about AR owners with their 20 round, detachable mags? Are they the same? You negate your arguments of being someone well trained and well versed in urban combat situations based on these foolish statements.

If i cant hit anything with the first ten I shouldnt be there in the first place,.

So now you think you're James Bond or something? People do miss under stress. You think you're perfect? Cops sometimes miss at point blank range after emptying their 15-17 round mags. So these cops who missed their target(s) in a shootout shouldn't be there in the first place....ie. shouldn't have been cops at all? Are you really that great?

I think the sksis a great weapon for urban settings.

Who says it's not? I'm just saying the AK is better and not that much more expensive.

You can get great reliable tapcos mags to. and have a great working defense piece and a hunting rifle. I dont need to fight. I d rather not be seen, and I dont wanna carry all the evtra stuff on me for people to mistake me for military, or some one who lokks like them.

Well then the choice for being less seen is an AK since it's more compact and easier to concealed...and just as good for hunting and way better for self defense. And what extra stuff being carried are you talking about that an AK has that an SKS doesn't?

And why are you now talking about Tapco mags for? I thought you didn't need high cap mags?

DOnt need it, Blend in.I can reload my sks pretty darn fast in a seated, laying, back against a truck tire, and so on. I know its limitations, and it had a pretty damn good round. Im a huge fan of the sks, and i cant see any other rifle fillling the battle,/hunt/survive rifle.Im biest.[/B]

Really, can you reload your 10 round stripper faster than than the time it takes for me to pull the trigger to shoot the 11th round out of my AK.....which is about 1/4 of a second or so? What about my 12th to 30th round?

Sounds like this is all you have, an SKS. Fine. Just don't tell me it's better than an AK.

 

The best weapon for you is the one with which you are comfortable and can hit your target. It's better to have a weapon that most don't find to be "cool" if you shoot well with it versus a "neat" gun that you can't hit the broad side of a barn with.

 

The best? I dunno. One of the top choices....ok.

 

I like the Keltec Sub 2K chambered in .40 caliber/Glock compatible. Now that I can get decent higher cap mags actually made by Glock I am very happy with the choice.

(not me in the vid btw)

 

SKS is a strongly built rifle. I happen to like the Chinese military version being sold here. The stripper clips are a boon. My VZ-58 has 30 round magazines but they can be topped off with the ten round stripper clips while the magazine is still on the rifle so all I really need is one magazine.
Excellent choice.

 

SKS's are great firearm, but I think that the main thing to take into consideration is exactly what kind of "Urban" area we are talking about. Some rural folks consider any town larger than 10,000 folks as Urban.

I perfer the M1 carbine, the real deal not the Universal garbage guns. M1a1 stock with a flash suppresor and Aussie issue 40rnd mags or US 30rnd mags, if I need to hunker than could swap to 5 or 10rndr's, that would be my choice and Yes over a SKS even with 20+rndrs and a tapco stock.

Most importantly, should now your tool upside down and backwards, lights on or lights off. For instance when I am in the backcountry for days at a time I would perfer a revolver over any other sidearm, reason...less moving parts to foul up.

KISS ( Keep It Simple Stupid)

 

This is the Ideal SKS i think, SKS-M 16 inch barrel, takes AK mags. I picked it up a couple of years ago and since put it in a tapco stock. It is very fun to shoot. I dout it is anymore reliable or accurate than an ak. I do like that is does not have stamped parts but that never seem to hurt the AK. Yes our children are gun savy. Never to young to start.