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I see a lot of dedication to one rifle type or another.I include myself in this mix.However there are advantages to different types of calibers.Example 7.62x39 good "city round" penetration 'hitting power easy of follow up shots.The 5.56 +5.45x39 lite weight makes good patrol rounds ,good med range in open country and ok in close quarters but lacks consistent stopping power which is a minus for up close.The full bores 7.62x51,30.06,7.62x54 etc good anti personnel lite anti material and can reach out there.They are not so good at quick work.So do you have a rifle for different tactical scenarios or just stick with one caliber and adapt tactics to it?
 

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Well I figure if 1/2 the world uses the 7,62x39mm round, it's good enough for me. Our group uses 7,62x39, x51, x54 and 2 carry short shotguns on their packs for clearing. We all carry 45/9mm pistols for CQB as well. Due to as you stated stopping power and from what my nephews have shared from their time in the desert, we decided against the .223/5.56 round.

Hope I answered your question clearly.
 

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I see you're point, and it is a valid one.


I'm poor, so we went with 12 gauge and .22LR.

I ideally I think I'd use 7.62x39...I think perhaps it combines the better characteristics of the 5.56 and .308.
 

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22LR, 7.62x39 and 30.06
45ACP, .410 and 12ga supplemental
Believe it or not, the 410 is under-rated. Those little slugs will kill just as good as anything else, not great range, but still deadly. Great rabbit/aquirrel and if close enough, turkey round.
 

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I have several assualt weapons ak, ar, sks, fn all great weapons. But if i could only grab a gun for each hand it would be my Ruger 10/22 and 12 ga. Remington pump all in all out the survivalists best friends. A .22 in the hand of a good marksman will bring home more game and has the potential to discourage mor e would be Rambos than anything theres is
a shot too the head preferably eye will deter even the most deteremined attacker even from a distance it works.
00 Buck at close range puts out a protective net that is impenetrable and even the toughest shy away from.
In the military we trained with body armour indiscrimainate shooting might take a man down but hes far from incapacitated most times. He can still return fire for a time once again one well placed shot is worth a 100 fired everywhere.
 

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I use 30-06, .308, 76.2x39, .223, .22, 12 gauge, and .357 and .380.

Between ammo and guns I am not dragging a pack anywhere but what the heck, my legs are gone anyway. Mix and match, I guess I have most of the good calibers covered.
 

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I'm a .223 man. I prefer the accuracy, the lighter weight thus higher capacity in magazines vs. the .308.

I don't really care for the 7.62 even if it is more abundant. I find that after 100 yards or so you lose a lot of accuracy.

A good .223 round has both stopping power and the ability to stay pretty accurate around 300 yards plus.
 

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Lets look at the 5.56 vs the 7.62x51

mass velocity KE (J) ft/lbs
5.56 62gr (0.004017532 kg) 3010 fps (917.45 m/s) 1690.807 J (1247.09ft/lbs)

7.62 147gr (0.00952544 kg) 2756 fps (840 m/s) 3360.56 J (2478.66 ft/lbs)

Its clear that the 7.62 has more knock down power, but 1247 ft/lbs is nothing to sneeze at, just compare the 5.56 to the .30-30 160gr w/ 928 ft/lb (1,258 J or the .357 158gr w/ 539 ft/lbf (731 J) of knock down or the 200gr .45 acp with 518 ft/lbs or 718 J. By compairson the 5.56 is a very effective round when it comes to knock down power, even w/ half the knock down of the 7.62x51 the reduced weight and sheer number of rounds you can carry w/ a 5.56 more than makes up for it and lets face it, most gun fights are within 100yrs, not at 600-1000 yds and if someone were to catch either a 5.56 or 7.62 in the head, chest or abdomen they're done for. Also the and the 5.56 will take a medium sized game.

also the .22 only has 134 ft/lbs (182 J) good luck using it for self defense.

Good stopping power, high capacity, lighter weight rifles and I can carry a pile of ammo. That's why I prefer an AR-15....


double check my math, that was a lot to convert...
 

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Believe it or not, the 410 is under-rated. Those little slugs will kill just as good as anything else, not great range, but still deadly. Great rabbit/aquirrel and if close enough, turkey round.
A friend of mine was telling me about a hunter he knows who gets a deer every year. Only gun he uses is .410 shotgun. Not my ideal round, but in the hands of a skilled shooter it is just as deadly.
 

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7.62X39, 8MM Mauser, .22LR.

Thats it for me.
 

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7.62x39, 30.06,.30 carbine,8mm mauser.

Takes about 5 rounds of 8mm to open a man sized hole in a cinder block, or brick wall wall. Pretty devastating power from that one.
 

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I started out w/ a dbl 12 shotgun. Just purchased a S12. Same ammo for both.
My BO partner is planning to get a 9mm. If I had to grab just one, which do you think I'll grab? lol
 

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I have too many, I think. I have 2 revolvers in 357 and a lever action 357 to match, a 12 ga shotgun, 22lr lever gun, a 9mm glock and a new M1a in .308...

As I was arranging my gear the other day, I thought "there is too much here"

You know what they say, "beware the man with one gun... he knows how to use it"

I am hard at thinking I maybe made a mistake with my M1a purchase, but still trying to grow accustomed to it...

John
 

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My calibers consist of:
5.45x39(ak74s)
7.62x51(.308s) FALs and bolt action rifles
7.62x39(ak-47s)
556x45(m-16s)& bolt action rifles
30-06 M1 Garands and bolt action rifles
22lr ruger carbines and pistols
12 ga shotguns pumps and autos
45acp(1911s, sigs, glocks
9mm(sigs, glocks, browning hps
40 cal(sigs)
.357sig(sigs)
44mag (s&ws, rugers)
.357 mag(s&ws, rugers

thats about it.......
 

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My calibers consist of:
5.45x39(ak74s)
7.62x51(.308s) FALs and bolt action rifles
7.62x39(ak-47s)
556x45(m-16s)& bolt action rifles
30-06 M1 Garands and bolt action rifles
22lr ruger carbines and pistols
12 ga shotguns pumps and autos
45acp(1911s, sigs, glocks
9mm(sigs, glocks, browning hps
40 cal(sigs)
.357sig(sigs)
44mag (s&ws, rugers)
.357 mag(s&ws, rugers

thats about it.......
Is that all?:)
 

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While I have .223 guns and ammo, 7.62x39 is my go-to caliber for when SHTF. It is a good jack-of-all-trades round and battle-proven.

As much respect as I have for the venerable .308 cartridge, I made the decision this year to consolidate rifle calibers, so I sold off my .308 rifles and a few thousand rounds of ammo to buy more in the calibers I decided to keep. I was able to buy nearly three rounds of 7.62x39 for every .308 round I liquidated. As a result, my core and supplemental survival arsenals are now much more practical. If I really ever need to take those 300-yard shots with hard-hitting terminal ballistics, that's why I keep a couple of Mosins around with a few spam cans of super-cheap 147gr 7.62x54 rimmed Russian.



For the handguns, every .40 caliber Glock I have now has a 9mm conversion barrel and spare 9mm magazines to go with them; I can swap calibers in about 30 seconds if I need to.

 

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7.62x39
.22Mag



Soon to be Adding
9MM
12Gauge
7.62x54 or 30.06 (havent decided yet.)
 
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