because armed citizens (subjects) does not fit the narative
"We don't want people( my bold) to fire weapons into our community. There could be unintended victims," Chief LeRonne Armstrong said.
The chief's message was that Oakland should come together as a community and citizens should not put one another in harm's way " " (impliying goverment agents are perfectly fine endaangering citizens)

 

Another source says he fired warning shots into air. That could get him in trouble.

 

Thats where he messed up there's a reason cops don't fire warning shots. Good intentions but but poor choice of actions.
I know of a guy that got arrested for doing the same thing in Fl.

 

Remember the (new?) role of policing is not to prevent crime.... It's ostensibly to solve crimes that have already been committed.

There is only one LEO that is committed to crime prevention, he's McGruff the crime prevention dog.

We are essentially 'on our own' until after the crime has been committed.

 

Oakland was a hellhole when I left the Bay Area 20 years ago. I doubt it has improved.

I feel bad for the owner, though.

 

This just strengthens my resolve to stay as far away from California as I can.

 

I think the crux of what the outcome will be is written in the news story: "The Alameda County District Attorney's office will review the case. There is no timeline available on when the possible charges will be filed" They are going to review the case and drop it like a hot potato. I'm relatively sure it went down something like this poor guy gets pinched right after the incident. Calls get made and some field Lt. briefs the Chief the next morning.

Chief says to file charges. Some detective has to write the case and get it to the D.A. within 72 hours (More if a weekend or holiday) because the guy is in custody. Meanwhile the guy posts bond and is out so the clock for the detective is now off, he can sit on it until the statute of limitations comes into play or until his boss starts getting into his ear about it.

Once filed, the DA would be stupid to try and go forward with the case. At best it will get kicked to the City Attorney and refiled as a misdemeanor. Now the City Attorney will probably drop it too. If they don't the trial won't last long and he will be acquitted. California may be a lot of things wrong but you can still defend yourself and other against a violent attack with a firearm. That shop owner can legally carry a concealed firearm in his store without a permit. Once he comes outside of the shop things get a little sticky for him. Even with that great levy will be attached to what he was trying to do. This is a mess though no two ways about it. He should be receiving an accommodation from that chief instead he's now suffering that fool for the time being.

 

I think the crux of what the outcome will be is written in the news story: "The Alameda County District Attorney's office will review the case. There is no timeline available on when the possible charges will be filed" They are going to review the case and drop it like a hot potato. I'm relatively sure it went down something like this poor guy gets pinched right after the incident. Calls get made and some field Lt. briefs the Chief the next morning.

Chief says to file charges. Some detective has to write the case and get it to the D.A. within 72 hours (More if a weekend or holiday) because the guy is in custody. Meanwhile the guy posts bond and is out so the clock for the detective is now off, he can sit on it until the statute of limitations comes into play or until his boss starts getting into his ear about it.

Once filed, the DA would be stupid to try and go forward with the case. At best it will get kicked to the City Attorney and refiled as a misdemeanor. Now the City Attorney will probably drop it too. If they don't the trial won't last long and he will be acquitted. California may be a lot of things wrong but you can still defend yourself and other against a violent attack with a firearm. That shop owner can legally carry a concealed firearm in his store without a permit. Once he comes outside of the shop things get a little sticky for him. Even with that great levy will be attached to what he was trying to do. This is a mess though no two ways about it. He should be receiving an accommodation from that chief instead he's now suffering that fool for the time being.

Unfortunately that is how these sort of things work. Firing a gun off within a city in extremely serious because of the high risk of hitting people by accident. Which is why if you fire a gun within a city, you are almost always going to be investigated. Even if you are innocent, they still need to look into it.

 

Without knowing all the facts I can see scenarios where the chief might have had a point depending on the totality of the circumstances. But reading other quotes in other more recent articles it sounds like he sending a message to the community “don’t exercise your 2nd amendment rights“. I say this because the chief said.

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Police Chief LeRonne Armstrong made the comments on Tuesday as local leaders, including Chinatown Chamber of Commerce head Carl Chan, asked why a hero was thrown behind bars.

“Our message really is that we don’t want to see our business owners or others begin to arm themselves,” Chief Armstrong said. “We would really prefer them to be good witnesses and give us the observations that they have; share that information, call law enforcement immediately and let OPD respond and follow up. What we really don’t want to do is bring any additional issues that threaten safety into the equation.” Oakland Chinatown hero who used gun to save woman is arrested; cops want ‘good witnesses’

This is a shame. He doesn’t want potential victims to be able to defend themselves from criminals. He does not want criminals to have any deterrent to do what they want. In a high crime area he is catering to criminals. He only became police chief about two weeks ago in an area that has gone through many chiefs in the last 18 years. For the sake up the non criminals in his area, I hope he does not last the year.

 

Without knowing all the facts I can see scenarios where the chief might have had a point depending on the totality of the circumstances. But reading other quotes in other more recent articles it sounds like he sending a message to the community “don’t exercise your 2nd amendment rights“. I say this because the chief said.

“
Police Chief LeRonne Armstrong made the comments on Tuesday as local leaders, including Chinatown Chamber of Commerce head Carl Chan, asked why a hero was thrown behind bars.

“Our message really is that we don’t want to see our business owners or others begin to arm themselves,” Chief Armstrong said. “We would really prefer them to be good witnesses and give us the observations that they have; share that information, call law enforcement immediately and let OPD respond and follow up. What we really don’t want to do is bring any additional issues that threaten safety into the equation.” Oakland Chinatown hero who used gun to save woman is arrested; cops want ‘good witnesses’

This is a shame. He doesn’t want potential victims to be able to defend themselves from criminals. He does not want criminals to have any deterrent to do what they want. In a high crime area he is catering to criminals. He only became police chief about two weeks ago in an area that has gone through many chiefs in the last 18 years. For the sake up the non criminals in his area, I hope he does not last the year.

The lesson of this not to fire warning shots but to stop the perp from doing doing what he or she is doing and should they make you in fear for your life and or great bodily then you shoot them ! and NOT the air ! And you shoot to kill or you may have to support them for the remainder of there miserable lives.
SHOOT EM AGAIN I SEEN EM MOVE !

 

The narrative isnt a narrative, its INTENT!

The purpose is to quell you to status of sheep because if your afraid to fight robbers, you WONT fight the police!

 

Chief Armstrong said. “We would really prefer them to be good witnesses and give us the observations that they have; share that information, call law enforcement immediately and let OPD respond and follow up.

I wonder if Chiefy here has ever tried calling the OPD for something to gauge what the response is like. ****ing laughable.

 

Sometimes its not worth getting involved in a situation. It's one thing if there's a mass shooting and you have the power to stop the threat and save lives. Of course you have to get involved. But if it's just a matter of stopping some punk from robbing a store, you might want to sit it out if you are in a jurisdiction that is just as likely to prosecute you as they are the punk robbing the joint.