Put up posters in your area to, er, welcome them? this is not just an issue in your house.. and maybe you can wake the minds of those not so counsious

 

Buy a dog, preferably a big one like a german shepherd. You don't have to actually train it to be vicious, a lot of their value is in the intimidation factor alone. My beast, for example, is over 100 lbs and is still growing. He is the sweetest thing in the world, probably wouldn't ever hurt anyone unless they were already killing someone in my family, but strangers don't know that. Something about seeing a 100 lb, wolk-lookalike in the window at night is quite the deterrant.

Also, now would be a good time to check your home's security, make sure there are no glaring flaws, maybe install an alarm system.

 

That issue is covered, 90 lb yellow lab who barks like crazy when visitors come around

 

Okay... Hold it...

1. What kind of offenders are they? You need to figure that out. I know one guy who was 18 and having sex with a 16 year old girl. He got labelled a sex offender for some reason even after they got married, had 3 kids and are still living together like 30 years later. In other words, what EXACTLY did these guys do? See if you can figure that out.

2. If none of these guys live within a half a mile of you, more than likely you're safe. If, however, they live right around the corner or next door, then you should be worried.

3. With all the liberal/socialist/Democrats out there, you have GOT to be extremely careful about taking any action against these guys. You have got to be aware that these guys are the people that the Democrats worship and try to attract to their causes. This also means that if you do anything at all, if you have a Democrat prosecutor then he may try to charge YOU with a hate crime. Think this through very carefully before you do anything. It might not hurt to ask an attorney what you can and can not do without running afoul of the laws. Keep in mind too, that there are some federal laws which can be used to hit somebody with a hate crime.

4. Watch for traps. Some of these guys will try to set it up so that they can sue to collect money for various reasons. You may have one of these birds who sexually abused young boys. Along you come and expose him to the public. Now, instead of making it an issue of you attacking him for being a convicted sexual predator he claims that you have singled him out because of his gay lifestyle or whatever. This has happened before and it can become very costly real fast.

 

1. According to the flier that the local police sent out, he shot and raped a girl under the age of 18 (as if age matters when those acts are committed against someone)

2. He lives about 1/4 to 1/2 mile as the crow flies.

3. good idea

4. Since the police sent out fliers, I'm not exactly sure how I could be accused of singling him out, the law here does that for me.

I know that I wasn't real clear/specific in my initial post and some may think that I am over-reacting, but with the information that I received yesterday, I don't think I am. I'm just baffled as to how a guy who looks to be in his mid 20's rapes and shoots a girl (who survives) is out walking around on the streets. Common sense should dictate that he needs to be about 40 or 50 before he sees the light of day.

 

You can put posters up, and hold meetings in the neighborhood. Be careful not to harass them because you can get in trouble legally.

To be honest though most chimos are a bunch of daisies. If you look at them hard they cross the street to avoid you.

 

I put anonymous posters up at all the local gas stations, the guy was booted out of his rented house in no time.

 

Warn all the neighbors around this guys house..Get those pistols it is an important time now in life to carry ...People have no clue how many of them are out there...That website has been on a few years and people would really be suprised to see how close they live to one..

 

Leave him an anonymous note saying to keep away from your children or else....that should be enough to deter him.

 

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its tricky do deal with them. You have to find out what they did. My friend is a sex offender for being drunk in a kmart parking lot, taking a **** and two 17 year olds walked right up to him to get into thier car. I think he is level two. he has to go to all of his neighbors when he moves and is required to tell them he is a sex offender. He is not able to tell them why he is a sex offender, just that he is one. I would bet a level three one has done something bad at some point. But most of the really bad ones are kept a pretty close eye on.

 

its tricky do deal with them. You have to find out what they did. My friend is a sex offender for being drunk in a kmart parking lot, taking a **** and two 17 year olds walked right up to him to get into thier car. I think he is level two. he has to go to all of his neighbors when he moves and is required to tell them he is a sex offender. He is not able to tell them why he is a sex offender, just that he is one. I would bet a level three one has done something bad at some point. But most of the really bad ones are kept a pretty close eye on.

Yes, just like several in the past year or so (even in recent weeks) who has gone on to rape and kill children again.

 

you can check how close you are or they are to a school. i like in mi and they are not alowed to move that close to a school or play ground. people knowing about (he or she) will help people know to keep an eye out.

 

Unfortunately there are no schools close by.

 

18 yr olds with 16 yr old girlfriends. Daddy gets upset and bam! Lifetime sex offender.

Heard of one gentleman - driving home from work when a high schooler darted across the street in front of him. He had to lock up the brakes to avoid hitting her. Angry, he jumps out of the car, grabs her by the arm, and asks her if she realizes how close she was to losing her life. Result - illegal restraint of a minor - lifetime sex offender.

Longtime friend of the family was setup (my opinion). One of his "acquaintances" emailed him some dirty pictures. Nothing obviously disgusting - think topless young woman. He was soon after arrested for possession of child porn. Lifetime sex offender. He failed to register (his fault!) and was systematically booted from the house he owned. This led to loss of his marriage. This then led to loss of his business.

Coworker a few years ago - going through a divorce, he bathed with his preschool age son. Something I would imagine all of us fathers have done. Ex managed to twist this into some bullcrap charges and now he's on the registry. Ensuing "harrassment" caused him to voluntarily leave his job.


I refuse to judge anyone simply because they are registered. This permanent scarlet letter is too swiftly handed out. Are there bad apples out there? Sure. I say get to know the situation BEFORE judging anyone.

 

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Coworker a few years ago - going through a divorce, he bathed with his preschool age son. Something I would imagine all of us fathers have done. Ex managed to twist this into some bullcrap charges and now he's on the registry. Ensuing "harrassment" caused him to voluntarily leave his job.

You know how all parents have those cute, innocent pictures of their kids in the bathtub? Ive heard of people getting child pornography charges over that....ridiculous.

 

Agree with not jumping to conclusions.

Also, HS, are you kidding with the Democrats courting registered offenders? Cause, really, why would they bother with people who 1) can't VOTE (felons CAN'T VOTE) and 2) generally poor because they lose job, house, family support, etc? Think that through to its logical conclusion. Why would any politician of any stripe care about these non-voters? Your argument makes no sense.

That being said, I agree with trying to find out what really happened. I had one living around the corner from me and found out that he was a 19-yr-old dating a 17-yr-old that got in trouble. Why would I care if people made stupid mistakes when they were young? Didn't you? I think the sex offender label is thrown on people way way way too often with very little real evidence.

This is not to say that I don't believe in harsh punishments for people who are REAL sexual predators and sex offenders.

 

Agree with not jumping to conclusions.

Also, HS, are you kidding with the Democrats courting registered offenders? Cause, really, why would they bother with people who 1) can't VOTE (felons CAN'T VOTE) and 2) generally poor because they lose job, house, family support, etc? Think that through to its logical conclusion. Why would any politician of any stripe care about these non-voters? Your argument makes no sense.

That being said, I agree with trying to find out what really happened. I had one living around the corner from me and found out that he was a 19-yr-old dating a 17-yr-old that got in trouble. Why would I care if people made stupid mistakes when they were young? Didn't you? I think the sex offender label is thrown on people way way way too often with very little real evidence.

This is not to say that I don't believe in harsh punishments for people who are REAL sexual predators and sex offenders.

Felons can have their rights reinstated after they serve their sentance. Durring Either Bill Clintons tenure as President or Hillerys run for the Senate not sure which ,there was a bill floted to let felons retain their right to vote even while they were in prison and it was pused by the Dems.

 

I do understand being careful with your family, same as before you found out about this new person living close to you. It's the person you don't know about that you have to worry the most over, in my opinion. I know why the sex offender registry was started but it seems to defeat it's purpose when there is no consideration about the crime and all are lumped together. There is a guy less than 1 block from me who is on the registry. I found out through an old time resident that when the guy was a teenager he was drawn to a girl in the neighborhood and got caught peeping on her. Now, 20 years later and not any crime since then he's still labeled a sex offender. I've never told him that I know he's on the registry and I treat him no different than any other neighbor. I also think in all the years he's been a model citizen I have no need to fear him. Also, one of my son's best friends is on the sex offender register. As a teenager he and his girlfriend had sex and her parents knew about it but did nothing until the couple broke up. Even though the boy was 1 year older than the girl, she was under 17 and he was charged with sex with a minor. Today, 8 years later they are married, have 3 children and love one another but he is still on that sex offender registry. His father-in-law wishes now he hadn't reacted emotionally but it's to late. I'm not saying there aren't horrible people on the registry. I'm just saying there are people on it that in my opinion have no more inclination to hurt your wife or child than you do.

 

Just one more poster wanting to chime in about not instantly hating this guy and doing anything patently stupid as recommended by other posters such as:
* Blackmail (definitely illegal)
* Menace or threaten anonymously or otherwise (definitely illegal)
* Harass via posters or community organizing (possibly illegal, and messed up)

Sure, find out what he's done. This nanny state N.I.M.B. nonsense, mostly driven by "tough on crime" democrats and republicans in local govt has ruined many people's lives who did nothing immoral or damaging to anyone. You can be put on this list for the necessity of public urination for crying out loud!

People end up having to live in tent cities amongst bona-fide sexual predators and victimizers simply because communities get all organized and chase these people out of town. What ever happened to the concept of personal liberty after you've "paid your debt to society" as decided by a jury of your peers?

Now sure if they are the bad ones, the predators, obviously help your family to become a spiny proposition for them by doing all the things people on this board likely already do:

* Get a big scary dog
* Have the kids & wife trained to defend themselves
* All wives should have a handgun they feel safe and comfortable with; mine is getting a hammerless S&W .38 revolver

Of course give the predators a serious cold shoulder, but don't reach out to initiate contact and get on some imbalanced person's hit list.

Always remember:
These people could be your father, uncle, son, etc who've run afoul of a broken criminal system that puts public urinators in the same ballpark as child rapists, and a sometimes corrupt law enforcement system that sometimes has people who abuse their power to resolve vendettas.

 

Just one more poster wanting to chime in about not instantly hating this guy and doing anything patently stupid as recommended by other posters such as:
* Blackmail (definitely illegal)
* Menace or threaten anonymously or otherwise (definitely illegal)
* Harass via posters or community organizing (possibly illegal, and messed up)

Sure, find out what he's done. This nanny state N.I.M.B. nonsense, mostly driven by "tough on crime" democrats and republicans in local govt has ruined many people's lives who did nothing immoral or damaging to anyone. You can be put on this list for the necessity of public urination for crying out loud!

People end up having to live in tent cities amongst bona-fide sexual predators and victimizers simply because communities get all organized and chase these people out of town. What ever happened to the concept of personal liberty after you've "paid your debt to society" as decided by a jury of your peers?

Now sure if they are the bad ones, the predators, obviously help your family to become a spiny proposition for them by doing all the things people on this board likely already do:

* Get a big scary dog
* Have the kids & wife trained to defend themselves
* All wives should have a handgun they feel safe and comfortable with; mine is getting a hammerless S&W .38 revolver

Of course give the predators a serious cold shoulder, but don't reach out to initiate contact and get on some imbalanced person's hit list.

Always remember:
These people could be your father, uncle, son, etc who've run afoul of a broken criminal system that puts public urinators in the same ballpark as child rapists, and a sometimes corrupt law enforcement system that sometimes has people who abuse their power to resolve vendettas.

very, very true. in college @ MSU i got arrested for urinating in public, behind a convenience store, totally out of view. to add insult to injury, i was caught by two bike police. i was issued a "UIP" (urinating in public) and an "MIP" (minor in possession - had been drinking), and would have been placed on the sex offender list had i not known what i was doing and just plead guilty. i went the "diversion" route - plead "not guilty," and had everything expunged from my record. thank god for ASMSU (free legal advice for students).

 

IMO, in most States , they can't be located within 1000yds of a school or park or anywhere children walk.....so you may have a legal leg there........other than that, usually getting the neighborhood involved and notifying everone they're there is the most you can do.......

 

We bought a home right across the street from a school. This ensures that sex offenders can't move in next door as its the one area they are prevented from living.

 

where i live there are 51 in my area scares me too educate your children
make up a password with them if someone is to pick them up they have to know password let them know they are not in trouble if someone touches them it's
the sick f..k that hurt them is going away.make sure your kids are not scared to talk to you about anything.teach them about personal space teach them about all the tricks people may use to grab them as you can.on indiana site you can check what classification means like if they are on for incest,sexaul assault,child molestion ect...
and a definetion of each offence also where they work live with detailed map
and if they are lifetime members or 10 yr regerstry as far of putting up posters i don't know you have to think just how at risk is your family and is it worth breaking the law to protect them this is just off top of my head theres alot more you could do i'm sure

 

Clean your rifles regularly on your front porch.
Stand in the street in front of his house dressed in full camo at night.

 

freakin awesome!! best advice ever!!

 

I was with my uncle when he grabbed some sex offender guy at the local grocery store by the throat. He got the message.

 

Your uncle should have been arrested. That's Assault and depending on what state, Battery. Both charges can get you jail time.

The problem in this country is that we persecute people before we even know what the crime is. Even then, most of these people have served their punishments, and it's not your job to judge these people.
Sure, I am not comfortable with a potential criminal living in my neighborhood, but I am not about the violate someones constitutional rights to privacy, not should any of you. If the person poses a risk to society, then they should remain in a institution, not in yours or my neighborhood. If those institutions decide that the person is no longer a risk, so be it. It's not your place to act like the police.

But also like which has been said, they are really getting overboard with the clasification of what constitutes a "sex offender"...
A friend of mine got arrested for public nudity because he was changing out of a wet suit in the back of his van at a beach access after surfing. All it took was one elitist prude middle aged lady to call the cops, and bam, sex offender. All he wanted to do is get out of his wet suit. Geez, people, is that really a predator? No of course not. Let's get a handle on exactly what a sex offender is. I really think that these laws need to be modified.

 

My response to this thread was banned. Perhaps this topic hits a little to close to home for those who run the site?

The sex offender registry list is public access. Contact your local sheriff. It's your right to know.

 

Better your post than you.........personal attack is a no no.

 

Something else you can do is see if your area makes it illegal for sex offenders to live near home run day cares. If it does I would see if there were any listed in near the sex offenders

 

I would not be worried about someone that lived three miles away. There are probably more individuals that committed violent crimes that live closer that you will never know about. The guy did his time paid his debt to society, he knows that he will be the first one the cops come looking for if something happens. If you know what he looks like maybe just keep a lookout for him on your street and sensitize your family to what he looks like but you are probably more likely to get robbed than you are to be bothered by this guy.

 

..... The guy did his time paid his debt to society, he knows that he will be the first one the cops come looking for if something happens......

Oh, yeah, let's wait until after something happens.......ok, who's son or daughter should go first?

 

As mentioned before, in certain areas a sex offender can't live within a certain distance of a school or daycare. I think in Cedar Rapids, there are only small pockets where one can actually live in city limits (I saw a map online if I remember correctly).

Register a daycare!



As a side note, they REALLY need to look at the sex offender laws. Supposedly there was some guy that was drunk downtown in Iowa City, was waving his 'thing' around while urinating and was busted. Hell, if everyone that has ever done this was charged at least 50% of us would be in the same boat. :xeye:

 

Be aware that whatever information you find out there, the charge he was found guilty of or pled out to may or may NOT be the original crime. It is not uncommon for DAs to plea bargain with these guys and let them plead to lesser offenses for various reasons. Not saying that it is good or bad, just that it is so.

I wish I could tell you to give the guy the benefit of the doubt like many here have done, but I just can't do it.

Be careful.