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Dem iowa caucuses are monday. The senate trial is mandatory attendance. They cant leave until closing arguments are done. Republicans should have made them completely miss the iowa caucuses.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news...es-juggle-trial-and-iowa-caucuses/4628218002/

It is so ironic that trump cant pursue hunter/joe biden for ukraine corruption because it is a conflict of interest, but candidates running against trump get to vote on his removal office. They absolutely should have recused themselves.
 

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I think it's ironic they can't leave but the person on trial has free reign to hold as many rallies as he wants.
And if Trump actually wanted to withhold funds from countries whose leaders are involved in corruption, we should be cutting off Israel.
If he wants to start with nepotism first - he can get rid of Ivanka, Jared and the other half dozen dead weights who only have a job at the WH because daddy is still in good favor at court.
 

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I think it's ironic they can't leave but the person on trial has free reign to hold as many rallies as he wants.
And if Trump actually wanted to withhold funds from countries whose leaders are involved in corruption, we should be cutting off Israel.
If he wants to start with nepotism first - he can get rid of Ivanka, Jared and the other half dozen dead weights who only have a job at the WH because daddy is still in good favor at court.
you have no understanding of law. The Jurors must be present, the defendant can be present or not.
 

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The more they speak the more foolish they sound, so Nancy may me trying to save them from causing permanent damage, to themselves and the Democrat party.
 

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I think it's ironic they can't leave but the person on trial has free reign to hold as many rallies as he wants.
And if Trump actually wanted to withhold funds from countries whose leaders are involved in corruption, we should be cutting off Israel.
If he wants to start with nepotism first - he can get rid of Ivanka, Jared and the other half dozen dead weights who only have a job at the WH because daddy is still in good favor at court.
President Trump can hold all the rallies he wants to. It has nothing to do with this at all. You can't stop him from doing so. It's pretty ironic that you gripe about President Trump giving financial support to an allied nation (Israel). How much did your boy obamma illegally give to Iran? 150 billion? How about him sending weapons to the cartels in Mexico? Yeah, that's a fine and just move there putting America first. If you think for one second any of the President's kids would be out of employment if it not be due to their father you are more ignorant than you portray yourself here. It amazes me at what must be going through your brain on a daily basis but I'm convinced it's a whole lot of anti-American thoughts.
 

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you have no understanding of law. The Jurors must be present, the defendant can be present or not.
And when they are NOT present they are usually in jail. Not out running around the country promoting themselves and talking trash about the jury.
 

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I think it's ironic they can't leave but the person on trial has free reign to hold as many rallies as he wants.
And if Trump actually wanted to withhold funds from countries whose leaders are involved in corruption, we should be cutting off Israel.
If he wants to start with nepotism first - he can get rid of Ivanka, Jared and the other half dozen dead weights who only have a job at the WH because daddy is still in good favor at court.

He is innocent until proven guilty...right
If the Dems got their way and started calling witnesses how long do you think this impeachment would have taken? How much time would have that taken away from the Democratic hopefuls on the campaign trail. Democrats are their own worst enemies...LOL
 

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And when they are NOT present they are usually in jail. Not out running around the country promoting themselves and talking trash about the jury.
You DO realize that even if Trump is removed from office, he is free to
move to any country he wants, if he wanted to, immediately?

Which makes your point, pointless....
 

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LOL.....well said 4x4. None of this impeachment would have flown in an actual court of law, but this isnt, is it. Its a bunch of corrupt politicians pursuing power and pretending to be worth more than their biomass run through a woodchipper. Its a *political trial*, thus, totally worthless. Why not do rallies? Were i Trump I would do a no knock search on every member of Congress with the Marshallate Service and FBI on thier offices. And let the prosecutions for corruption start. Start the night after his dismissal, when they are getting hammered at home after a long day of bribe taking....and watch who freaks out the most, thats a good indicator of corruption. Thier states can appoint thier replacements per state constiitution.

Do a short tweet directly to the American people concerning an attempted soft coup by anti-democratic politicians, trying to overturn one election and prevent a subsequent free election, subject to trial by their local federal courts. Encourage the state legislatures to appoint temporary repllacements during thier investigations and court proceedings.

Then its a real investigation. Then the rule of law is actually utilized. Then the rules of evidence apply. Then due process is used.

Not like this banana republic farce and fraud perpetrated by the House. I honestly believe Trump has enough grounds to sue the trio for civil rights violations. I've done hundreds of actual govt investigations, this farce would have resulted in firings, criminal and civil actions against us. Congress needs to be held accountible, like any other branch of govt. They are not special. They are replaceable, by thier state legislatures. They should be, if judged guilty by an actual court of law, by worthy people on juries.....not by worthless DC critters like themselves.

My .02
 

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How can you have a trial without jurors?

So you want to deny him his 1st Amendment rights too?
What did Schiff do? The Senate should have used the same rules and guidelines as he did. The Senate gave them more "Rights" than Adam did for the Republicans and Adam is such a store loser.

I want the Dimms arses kicked hard in the 2020 elections. I know how I will vote and how many members on here will vote.
 

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I think it's ironic they can't leave
Irony assumes some happenstance.

This was a plot by Pelosi. Biden and Buttigieg, both moderates, have had free reign the entire time to canvas Iowa.

She rushed the House work and then held the paperwork until the time was right.

Pelosi knows that capitalism has treated her well. She's playing kingmaker.

She wants a moderate Democrat to have a chance against Trump, plus she would rule the capital if she were Speaker under a moderate Democrat prez. If a moderate Dem won the WH and she ruled the Hill the paper would flow in a torrent. The first 100 days would be monstrous.
 
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And if Trump actually wanted to withhold funds from countries whose leaders are involved in corruption, we should be cutting off Israel.
If he wants to start with nepotism first - he can get rid of Ivanka, Jared and the other half dozen dead weights who only have a job at the WH because daddy is still in good favor at court.
Oh sheesh....I wanna play this game!!

So we are comparing Israel to Iran right?
A democratically powered ally vs the country Obama shipped pallets of cash to....that John Kerry admitted would be used on terrorism?
Hmm or are we talking about Libya? Where Obama and Hillary started a war.

Oh if were are comparing politicians kids, please feel free to stand ole hunter Biden up against....well....ANY of Trumps children. Please.....please.....try and make the argument that Ivanka is as bad as Joe's dishonorably discharged for cocaine, then flew around the world on Air Force 2 collecting I'll gotten gains from his fathers name, son Hunter.

I'm happy to play whataboutism. But unless you were throwing a fit at all the stuff I mentioned over the previous 8 years(you weren't), then you are nothing but a freaking shill.

Oh please tell me how bad the orange man is. Your intellectual dishonesty is powerful. That you wear it so openly......brave sir/ma'am. Brave.
 

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Dem iowa caucuses are monday. The senate trial is mandatory attendance. They cant leave until closing arguments are done. Republicans should have made them completely miss the iowa caucuses.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news...es-juggle-trial-and-iowa-caucuses/4628218002/

It is so ironic that trump cant pursue hunter/joe biden for ukraine corruption because it is a conflict of interest, but candidates running against trump get to vote on his removal office. They absolutely should have recused themselves.
The Senate is in recess. I heard they won't come back before Wednesday.
 

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Most socialist liberals want to forget nepotism laws for the federal government were written due to JFK hiring his brother as AG, but the liberals have always been big on supporting “Do as we say, not as we do.”
 

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Guys, you do realize that Jojo tosses short stuff out guaranteed to get you all into a lather, right?

She ain't a commie. Just a moderate Dem, such as they are.

But she really does like screwing with you guys. She's got a bit of James Carville in her.

Learn to breathe when she posts politics. You going all rabid helps make her party seem sane to the fence straddlers.
 
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