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I have only used Rareseeds.com so far but Seedsnow.com also claims to be GMO Free heirloom vegetables for almost half the price.

Has anyone used Seedsnow.com and have had good results?
 

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I haven't. ...but just doing a quick compare between the sites, 2 things stuck out at me:

1) The number of seeds per packet at SeedsNow is less (which is probably why prices are cheaper),
2) The variety is also considerably less.

This isn't necessarily a bad thing. If you only need 3 or 4 tomato plants and SeedsNow has what you want, there's no reason to pay more.
 

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I have only used Rareseeds.com so far but Seedsnow.com also claims to be GMO Free heirloom vegetables for almost half the price.

Has anyone used Seedsnow.com and have had good results?
I haven't used either, but am extremely skeptical of the "seed vault" and "survival seed collection" concept. They are full of annual vegetable seed types selected by someone 3000 miles away, and that person has no knowledge of your soil or climate.

I feel sorry for the people, and I am not accusing you of being one, who think that when they are met with a calamity or disturbance, they will simply take to the wilderness, excavate their seed vault, and eat like a king.

The reality is that there are sometimes no rhyme or reason as to why one variety or cultivar thrives where another of the same genus or species fails catastrophically.

You would be far better advised to start perennial vegetables, herbs, shrubs, understory trees, and edible canopy trees, focusing on natives as much as possible, NOW, in whatever areas you intend to inhabit. Once established, it is lower maintenance, and more forgiving. Supplement with annual vegetables that you select and do the trial and error with for years before you NEED them to succeed.

EDIT: Just realized that I have ordered from Baker Creek, and had a perfectly good experience with them. Never tried the other one, but am skeptical of these survival seed collections. That said, their prices look excellent.
 

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I don't remember if I have come across the Seedsnow.com site or not in the past. It doesn't look familiar so thanks for posting about it.

I think the prices aren't that bad, considering how many seeds come in name brand packets off the racks these days. I bought something a year or two ago and paid about $2 for it, when opened it had 10 seeds in it. Broccoli, I think it was, non-hybrid too, which was the shocker. And further, I had terrible germination from it. Won't be buying Burpee anything ever again.

I agree about the seed vault packages offered from seed suppliers. Most of them seem to be directed at more northerly growing zones and so for example the common tomatoes like Rutgers, Ace, Brandywine offered in such collections simply do not produce here. The better way to go is to find varieties that do well in your climate then grow and save seeds every year from your best plants (best in terms of plant vigor, disease resistance, fruit production) and develop strains that are super adapted to your exact location. I have some Yellow Pear tomatoes I've saved for close to 20 years that, when compared to seeds I've bought to grow for comparison, leave them behind quickly and outperform them overall even though they are both Yellow Pear.
 

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I haven't used either, but am extremely skeptical of the "seed vault" and "survival seed collection" concept. They are full of annual vegetable seed types selected by someone 3000 miles away, and that person has no knowledge of your soil or climate.

I feel sorry for the people, and I am not accusing you of being one, who think that when they are met with a calamity or disturbance, they will simply take to the wilderness, excavate their seed vault, and eat like a king.

The reality is that there are sometimes no rhyme or reason as to why one variety or cultivar thrives where another of the same genus or species fails catastrophically.

You would be far better advised to start perennial vegetables, herbs, shrubs, understory trees, and edible canopy trees, focusing on natives as much as possible, NOW, in whatever areas you intend to inhabit. Once established, it is lower maintenance, and more forgiving. Supplement with annual vegetables that you select and do the trial and error with for years before you NEED them to succeed.
Whoa Whoa! Hold your horses there partner, before you go off feeling sorry for me and think you know what I am doing.

I am into gardening, I have planted a garden for the past two years and I am looking for seeds to buy for this years garden. I like heirlooms because I like trying to save my seeds for next year and I am not a fan of GMO plants.

I guess if I am was thinking about prepping at all would be just to have a good understanding of how a garden and saving seeds and just trying to grow my own knowledge.

so my main question is if anybody has used them before and they are who they say there are. I have had good luck with Rareseeds.com but they are pricier.
 

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Had a friend that purchased seeds from Baker Creek............... The seeds will all grow, if you know how. Most of the time, its not the seed, its the person holding the seed. Experience is your best teacher. Odd stuff, hobby stuff. They profit from gardeners that can hardly grow a weed, or unable to tell the difference between a plant from a weed. Gullible, first time gardeners, newbies that jump into something without knowing.

What happened to purchasing seeds through reputable seed companies that been have been there for the gardener for years. I know, its called a "fad". It feels right to tell your friends that you plant rare seeds! Which bye the way, all these companies sell. Here is a few to really get you into gardening.
R.H. Shumway's, Vermont Bean seed company, Park Seed, Totally Tomatoes, Jung Seeds, Henry Fields, Stark Bro's, Burgess seed, or Berlin seeds.
Raising plants from seeds, especially those that need 6-8 weeks head start is not for everybody. You gotta like to do it. It don't always turn out like you expect.
I recommend purchasing plants from your local gardening center, nursery, or even Wal-Mart until your growing methods are tried and true.
 

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so my main question is if anybody has used them before and they are who they say there are. I have had good luck with Rareseeds.com but they are pricier.
From what I can tell the price per seed is the same (compared to rare seed), at least for what I looked at. The price for Cherokee Purple is .99 for 10 at Seedsnow vs $2.50 for 25 at rare seed. It works out to be basically .10 per seed either way.

I've ordered a couple of things from them, but not many. I also hardly ever get ALL of my seeds from the same place either. I tend to look for varieties that do well in my area and I hardly ever get it done in one store.

BTW, you don't have to buy an heirloom to be able to save the seeds. You just need a non-hybrid open pollinated seed for that. Heirlooms are awesome for what they are, but they were developed in specific regions and have typically adapted natural defenses in those areas.
 

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this is true about soil type and climates. i also store seeds for cooler climate zones. things are changing. the world is cooling.
That may be but where I live is in the warmer part of zone 5 and the growing season is longer than it was 50 years ago. So for me, global warming and not global cooling seems to be happening.
 

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I have had good luck with seed from www.everwilde.com They offer the larger packs I need. For example Cabbage comes in a 500 seed pack for $2.50 1oz $3.60 1/4 Lb $ 5.40 1 Lb $9.60. They sell sizes that will work for anything from a garden to a Small farm.
 

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Baker Creek is absolutely good to go. They are about an hour up the road from me. If you're ever through southern Missouri it worth a stop. they have a neat frontier style town with various stores and monthly festivals
 
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