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Can we please wake up America so we can stop the madness.. It appears there is a reason that practically unknown Sarah Palin was selected as VP running mate... Anyone who responds with "if you go back far enough, we're ALL related" is a retard.

Hmmm.. Another coincidental royal bloodline.. What a coincidence

if that is a coincidence, then so is this:


McCain and Laura Bush are related, Obama related to 6 presidents, Bush included as well as **** Cheney...

This is no conspiracy theory.. It is part of a REAL conspiracy.


Here is the Wiki list of presidents who are related.. Obviously the direct relations are no big whoop. But the indirect relations suggest that there is an elitist bloodline ruling class that coincidentally keeps appearing in the right place at the right time to mysteriously stroll into these positions.. Anyone who thinks this is pure coincidence should add up all of the letters in every one of their names, divide by 70, add 6, subtract 4 and get the square root to play as your lottery number tonight.. Because you have just as much chance of that number coming in as this being some whacky coincidence.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_United_States_Presidents_by_genealogical_relationship

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According to research experts Ancestry.com, Governor Palin is the ninth cousin once removed of the man whose New Deal scheme is widely credited to have re-invigorated the US economy in the 1930s.

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According to research experts Ancestry.com, Governor Palin is the ninth cousin once removed of the man whose New Deal scheme is widely credited to have re-invigorated the US economy in the 1930s.

The rest of the article can't be of much value.
Whats not to love about FDR?? haha! maybe his dying wish was for payment for completely ruining our economy and country, he one day have his Uncle Jerry's 9th cousin's daughter's sister's niece become president in the future.
 

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Thanks Ford!

Pretty interesting. Good place to start on my family tree. I've been dying to find out. My grandmother said we're related to Isaac Newton and my dad said we are part Blackfoot Indian. His family comes from Vermont. I'll check out that website. Thanks much!
 

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yuck how can that poor excuse for a human being be related to my hero FDR?
 

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yuck how can that poor excuse for a human being be related to my hero FDR?
Here's how


Worse Than Japan -
Roosevelt Was A Traitor
By Alan Stang
EtherZone.com
10-3-2

For a couple of weeks we have been looking at Washington's use of war to submerge our nation in world government. We saw that there was no sensible reason for the United States to enter World War I, but that the Wilson Administration colluded with the English to embroil us by means of a trick. We saw that in the aftermath of the war, the conspirators failed to arrange world government because the U.S. Senate, then still dominated by Americans, failed to go along.

Twenty years passed and they had another chance. Europe was now embroiled in World War II. Remember that the war began on September 1st, 1939, when international socialist dictator Joe Stalin and National Socialist dictator Adolf Hitler,allies and treaty partners, invaded and dismembered Poland.

Franklin Roosevelt had been Assistant Secretary of the Navy when the Wilson Administration and Winston Churchill tricked us into World War I. Now he was President and he lusted to get the nation into war again. Roosevelt provoked Hitler by waging war without declaring it. For instance, he provided destroyer escorts to English convoys and threatened to sink any U-boats (German submarines) that showed themselves. Roosevelt was hoping to provoke an incident he could use as an excuse to declare war.

Meanwhile, he was running for re-election in 1940 and made the following pledge: "I say to you fathers and mothers, and I will say it again and again and again, your boys will not be sent into foreign wars." Remember that Woodrow Wilson's re-election slogan in 1916, when he was conspiring to trick us into World War I, was "He Kept Us Out of War." Now, in 1940, in the infamous "again and again" speech, world government conspirator Franklin Roosevelt was telling the same lie.

The problem was that Hitler was too smart to take the bait. He ordered his commanders not to respond to Roosevelt's provocations. Roosevelt found the solution in the Tripartite Treaty, concluded between Germany, Italy and Japan, on September 28, 1940, which obligated any of the three to treat an attack on the other two as an attack on itself. This meant that if Roosevelt could provoke Japan to attack the United States, he would indirectly get the war he wanted with Germany.

A diplomatic "incident" would not be enough. Such was the sentiment against war among the American people at the time, that only a major catastrophe could have changed their minds. The people had been tricked into World War I. Many of those people were still alive and adamantly opposed our entry into another war that had nothing to do with us. So, Roosevelt had to continue the pretense that he was a mere innocent bystander.

On June 22, 1941, Socialist gang leader Hitler attacked Socialist gang leader Stalin and the usual gang war broke out. Before that date, remember, the two socialist monsters had been allies; the communists here had been pushing the line that we should stay out of the war. The day after the attack, they were screaming that the United States should help the Soviet Union. Roosevelt was now even more frantic to embroil us in the war, because he revered Stalin and all things Communist. He launched the infamous Lend-Lease program, in which the United States sent enormous amounts of military equipment to "Uncle Joe."

Roosevelt imposed an oil embargo on the Japanese. Japan is of course a small island country that has no oil. The embargo was designed to bring the Japanese to their knees. Indeed, Roosevelt ordered Admiral J.O. Richardson, commander of the Pacific fleet, to impose a blockade that would have prevented Japan from using the western Pacific. Of course, this would have been war; fearing for his fleet, Admiral Richardson refused and was fired, which was just as well, because had the Japanese attacked, he would have been blamed. You will find a concise description of all this in a helpful book, The Unseen Hand by Ralph Epperson (Publius Press, Tucson, 1985)

After many months of such provocation to which the Japanese did not respond, they finally hit Pearl Harbor on December 7th, 1941. According to the party line, the attack was a "complete surprise." We had "done nothing" to provoke it. We are mere "innocent bystanders." December 7th was a "day of infamy." Franklin Roosevelt finally had his war.

How big a surprise was Pearl Harbor? The answer is that Roosevelt knew the attack was coming; He knew where and when it was coming; wanted it to come; encouraged it; did nothing to prevent it; kept our commanders on the scene in the dark about it; failed to warn them it was coming; did everything he could to make it as horrific as possible and then blamed our commanders for it. As he read the dispatches about the thousands of Americans killed at Pearl, the aircraft destroyed, the battleships sunk, the men entombed on the Arizona, all sacrificed in behalf of world government and the Soviet Union, the treasonous monster must have felt the intense satisfaction one feels after months of hard work pay off in success. It was Roosevelt, much more than the Japanese, who gave us the "day of infamy."

The present status of Pearl Harbor research is revealing. The party line immediately after the attack was to conceal all this. By now, so much slime has oozed out, so many facts, so much testimony, that the treasonous monster's advocates have reversed course. Now, they admit that Roosevelt arranged Pearl Harbor, but argue that he had to do so for our own good. You see, we were too stupid to realize that we should have been in a war, so Roosevelt had to trick us into it.

A recent book along these lines you really should look at is Day of Deceit, by Robert Stinnett (New York, Simon & Schuster, 2001), who prints new information that proves Roosevelt did it, but who also speaks of the treasonous monster's "magnificent contributions to the American people. His legacy should not be tarnished by the truth." According to Stinnett, "the Pearl Harbor attack was, from the White House perspective, something that had to be endured in order to stop a greater evil--the Nazi invaders in Europe who had begun the Holocaust and were poised to invade England." But the Allies knew nothing about the Holocaust until after Pearl Harbor, and the plan to exterminate the Jews wasn't hatched at Wannsee until after the attack.

How did the traitor Roosevelt arrange it? Here are a few examples. Again, you need to look at the books we have mentioned, among others. U.S. Navy intelligence had long since broken the Japanese "purple" code, so they knew what the Japanese were doing. Reading the Japanese messages required a "magic" machine, only a few of which were built. One was installed in London for Churchill; but our commanders at Pearl were denied a machine, so the only thing they knew about Japanese movements was what Washington told them.

Admiral Husband E. Kimmel had replaced the fired Admiral Richardson. Again, he knew nothing specific about the coming attack, but to protect the fleet he sent his battleships out of Pearl with forty other vessels and aerial reconnaissance. Washington ordered those ships back to Pearl and told Kimmel to stop aerial reconnaissance. the ships wound up beside each other at anchor. The approaching Japanese broke radio silence 28 times. Both Army and Navy intelligence knew exactly where they were, but the White House instructed them not to tell Kimmel and General Walter Short. Foreign vessels were also receiving those Japanese signals, but our commanders were deliberately kept in the dark. Even the Oahu radar station was shut down, which blinded Pearl Harbor.

On December 6th, 1941, Roosevelt read a message from Tokyo to its Japanese embassy and said, "This means war." On his desk, Army Chief of Staff George C. Marshall had a telephone that was a direct line to Pearl. He could have picked it up and given General Short crucial hours of warning. Instead, he sent a commercial telegram. Needless to say, when somebody finally handed Short the telegram, the attack was already under way. "Dear General Short, You will be attacked." While Short was being bombed, Marshall was horseback riding that Sunday morning. The Virginia countryside is so beautiful.

The recent movie about the attack showed that we lost many planes. Why? If General Short had known that the danger was an aerial attack, he would of course have scattered his aircraft and had them ready to take off. Instead, Washington told him the danger was sabotage and Short, remember, had no way of knowing any better. Roosevelt ordered him to do just the opposite; to bunch the planes in circles, propellers facing inward, which meant it would take a long time to get them airborne because they had no reverse. They wound up as juicy targets for the incoming Japanese.

Question: Would a President of the United States deliberately arrange for thousands of Americans to be killed in order to advance some megalomaniacal scheme? Answer: Yes. We have already looked at two examples; both Wilson and Roosevelt should have been hung. Question: Would a President of the United States do that again?
 

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Here's how


Worse Than Japan -
Roosevelt Was A Traitor
By Alan Stang
EtherZone.com
10-3-2

For a couple of weeks we have been looking at Washington's use of war to submerge our nation in world government. We saw that there was no sensible reason for the United States to enter World War I, but that the Wilson Administration colluded with the English to embroil us by means of a trick. We saw that in the aftermath of the war, the conspirators failed to arrange world government because the U.S. Senate, then still dominated by Americans, failed to go along.

Twenty years passed and they had another chance. Europe was now embroiled in World War II. Remember that the war began on September 1st, 1939, when international socialist dictator Joe Stalin and National Socialist dictator Adolf Hitler,allies and treaty partners, invaded and dismembered Poland.

Franklin Roosevelt had been Assistant Secretary of the Navy when the Wilson Administration and Winston Churchill tricked us into World War I. Now he was President and he lusted to get the nation into war again. Roosevelt provoked Hitler by waging war without declaring it. For instance, he provided destroyer escorts to English convoys and threatened to sink any U-boats (German submarines) that showed themselves. Roosevelt was hoping to provoke an incident he could use as an excuse to declare war.

Meanwhile, he was running for re-election in 1940 and made the following pledge: "I say to you fathers and mothers, and I will say it again and again and again, your boys will not be sent into foreign wars." Remember that Woodrow Wilson's re-election slogan in 1916, when he was conspiring to trick us into World War I, was "He Kept Us Out of War." Now, in 1940, in the infamous "again and again" speech, world government conspirator Franklin Roosevelt was telling the same lie.

The problem was that Hitler was too smart to take the bait. He ordered his commanders not to respond to Roosevelt's provocations. Roosevelt found the solution in the Tripartite Treaty, concluded between Germany, Italy and Japan, on September 28, 1940, which obligated any of the three to treat an attack on the other two as an attack on itself. This meant that if Roosevelt could provoke Japan to attack the United States, he would indirectly get the war he wanted with Germany.

A diplomatic "incident" would not be enough. Such was the sentiment against war among the American people at the time, that only a major catastrophe could have changed their minds. The people had been tricked into World War I. Many of those people were still alive and adamantly opposed our entry into another war that had nothing to do with us. So, Roosevelt had to continue the pretense that he was a mere innocent bystander.

On June 22, 1941, Socialist gang leader Hitler attacked Socialist gang leader Stalin and the usual gang war broke out. Before that date, remember, the two socialist monsters had been allies; the communists here had been pushing the line that we should stay out of the war. The day after the attack, they were screaming that the United States should help the Soviet Union. Roosevelt was now even more frantic to embroil us in the war, because he revered Stalin and all things Communist. He launched the infamous Lend-Lease program, in which the United States sent enormous amounts of military equipment to "Uncle Joe."

Roosevelt imposed an oil embargo on the Japanese. Japan is of course a small island country that has no oil. The embargo was designed to bring the Japanese to their knees. Indeed, Roosevelt ordered Admiral J.O. Richardson, commander of the Pacific fleet, to impose a blockade that would have prevented Japan from using the western Pacific. Of course, this would have been war; fearing for his fleet, Admiral Richardson refused and was fired, which was just as well, because had the Japanese attacked, he would have been blamed. You will find a concise description of all this in a helpful book, The Unseen Hand by Ralph Epperson (Publius Press, Tucson, 1985)

After many months of such provocation to which the Japanese did not respond, they finally hit Pearl Harbor on December 7th, 1941. According to the party line, the attack was a "complete surprise." We had "done nothing" to provoke it. We are mere "innocent bystanders." December 7th was a "day of infamy." Franklin Roosevelt finally had his war.

How big a surprise was Pearl Harbor? The answer is that Roosevelt knew the attack was coming; He knew where and when it was coming; wanted it to come; encouraged it; did nothing to prevent it; kept our commanders on the scene in the dark about it; failed to warn them it was coming; did everything he could to make it as horrific as possible and then blamed our commanders for it. As he read the dispatches about the thousands of Americans killed at Pearl, the aircraft destroyed, the battleships sunk, the men entombed on the Arizona, all sacrificed in behalf of world government and the Soviet Union, the treasonous monster must have felt the intense satisfaction one feels after months of hard work pay off in success. It was Roosevelt, much more than the Japanese, who gave us the "day of infamy."

The present status of Pearl Harbor research is revealing. The party line immediately after the attack was to conceal all this. By now, so much slime has oozed out, so many facts, so much testimony, that the treasonous monster's advocates have reversed course. Now, they admit that Roosevelt arranged Pearl Harbor, but argue that he had to do so for our own good. You see, we were too stupid to realize that we should have been in a war, so Roosevelt had to trick us into it.

A recent book along these lines you really should look at is Day of Deceit, by Robert Stinnett (New York, Simon & Schuster, 2001), who prints new information that proves Roosevelt did it, but who also speaks of the treasonous monster's "magnificent contributions to the American people. His legacy should not be tarnished by the truth." According to Stinnett, "the Pearl Harbor attack was, from the White House perspective, something that had to be endured in order to stop a greater evil--the Nazi invaders in Europe who had begun the Holocaust and were poised to invade England." But the Allies knew nothing about the Holocaust until after Pearl Harbor, and the plan to exterminate the Jews wasn't hatched at Wannsee until after the attack.

How did the traitor Roosevelt arrange it? Here are a few examples. Again, you need to look at the books we have mentioned, among others. U.S. Navy intelligence had long since broken the Japanese "purple" code, so they knew what the Japanese were doing. Reading the Japanese messages required a "magic" machine, only a few of which were built. One was installed in London for Churchill; but our commanders at Pearl were denied a machine, so the only thing they knew about Japanese movements was what Washington told them.

Admiral Husband E. Kimmel had replaced the fired Admiral Richardson. Again, he knew nothing specific about the coming attack, but to protect the fleet he sent his battleships out of Pearl with forty other vessels and aerial reconnaissance. Washington ordered those ships back to Pearl and told Kimmel to stop aerial reconnaissance. the ships wound up beside each other at anchor. The approaching Japanese broke radio silence 28 times. Both Army and Navy intelligence knew exactly where they were, but the White House instructed them not to tell Kimmel and General Walter Short. Foreign vessels were also receiving those Japanese signals, but our commanders were deliberately kept in the dark. Even the Oahu radar station was shut down, which blinded Pearl Harbor.

On December 6th, 1941, Roosevelt read a message from Tokyo to its Japanese embassy and said, "This means war." On his desk, Army Chief of Staff George C. Marshall had a telephone that was a direct line to Pearl. He could have picked it up and given General Short crucial hours of warning. Instead, he sent a commercial telegram. Needless to say, when somebody finally handed Short the telegram, the attack was already under way. "Dear General Short, You will be attacked." While Short was being bombed, Marshall was horseback riding that Sunday morning. The Virginia countryside is so beautiful.

The recent movie about the attack showed that we lost many planes. Why? If General Short had known that the danger was an aerial attack, he would of course have scattered his aircraft and had them ready to take off. Instead, Washington told him the danger was sabotage and Short, remember, had no way of knowing any better. Roosevelt ordered him to do just the opposite; to bunch the planes in circles, propellers facing inward, which meant it would take a long time to get them airborne because they had no reverse. They wound up as juicy targets for the incoming Japanese.

Question: Would a President of the United States deliberately arrange for thousands of Americans to be killed in order to advance some megalomaniacal scheme? Answer: Yes. We have already looked at two examples; both Wilson and Roosevelt should have been hung. Question: Would a President of the United States do that again?

We just looked at a buncha tinfoil hat stuff is what we did
 

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HAHA!! Of course you did.. LOL!

Are you also suggesting that the fact that these people are all related is tinfoil hat stuff?
 
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