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So the president of Ukraine signed a declaration to retake Crimea by expelling Russian forces and now apparently both sides are preparing for war... Why does this matter?
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Just like when the Obama regime backed a coup in Ukraine and Russia was forced to make a move on Crimea to protect their interests. Now they must defend against the US backed Ukraine forces trying to overtake Crimea...again. This is just more of the same play that they couldn't make work last time. Why is the US doing this is the question. Maybe Biden's grandkids need jobs in some Ukraine energy sector company?
 

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Ya'll need to read the dynamics of the area.
This is going to spill over.
Ukraine is a NATO wannabe, and to protect it NATO needs to put up.
while that is busy, Azerbaijan and Armenia are going at it.
IMO, your seeing the seeds of WWIII sprouting.
 

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Just like when the Obama regime backed a coup in Ukraine and Russia was forced to make a move on Crimea to protect their interests. Now they must defend against the US backed Ukraine forces trying to overtake Crimea...again. This is just more of the same play that they couldn't make work last time. Why is the US doing this is the question. Maybe Biden's grandkids need jobs in some Ukraine energy sector company?
I remember the White house response to Crimea annexation. It was not an invasion, it was an "uncontested arrival" :)

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It isnt Biden. Its NATO.

NATO is playing a dangerous game here, and if they play the Sudetenland BS from 1939, this is going to be the beginnings of real war.
NATO is a coward just like Biden. They only intervene in pathetic conflicts that don't pose a threat to anyone outside of the combatants. Oh there is a small tribal spat over an acre in the Congo, let's send in NATO. China threatens Taiwan, 2 major world powers and it's all good though.
 

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This is also telling me that the **** Cheney crowd may very well be behind this.

Now staying out of the various neo-con/lib argument, there is a solid amount of truth to the actions here that someone wants war for Biden to 'win". This would put Trump into the back seat as they see it, but IMO these clowns genuinely do not understand the significance of what this is.

If they think this is going to be another spat they can play solder with, its going to go hot. Rona virus aside, this is far more dangerous that one may think.
 

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This is also telling me that the **** Cheney crowd may very well be behind this.

Now staying out of the various neo-con/lib argument, there is a solid amount of truth to the actions here that someone wants war for Biden to 'win". This would put Trump into the back seat as they see it, but IMO these clowns genuinely do not understand the significance of what this is.

If they think this is going to be another spat they can play solder with, its going to go hot. Rona virus aside, this is far more dangerous that one may think.
There is zero chance Biden will win anything from a battle of words to a battle of bullets with Putin.
 

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NATO will just stand in their comfy little building and go on record as condemming something or other...and that'll be it.. Russia knows this..and with Nato depending in such large part on the U.S. with our current leadership, it's a walk in the front door for Russia..hope Hunter and the other First Family and friends are able to get all their money out of Ukraine before it goes under.
 

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This is really stupid on Ukraine and Biden's part.
  • Air superiority aircraft: Ukraine, 144, of which about 80 are airworthy. Russia: 460 and they more sophisticated models
  • Army: Ukraine, 280,000 regulars. Russia: 900,000 regulars, plus 2,000,000 trained reserves
  • Russia has about twice as many tanks
I dunno about starting WWIII though. When Russia invaded Ukraine in 2014, all Obama and NATO did was talk tough and do some symbolic sanctions. It didn't escalate into anything.
 

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The US is NATO. Other countries may be members but we're the force behind it. Russia invaded a NATO nation and NATO, under Obama's watch did nothing. Russia controlled itself for the last 4 years but a week US administration is in the white house again. Russia will crush Ukraine and Biden's NATO will do nothing.
 

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At this point I don't have enough information to assess what is really going on. However, Russia is doing the right thing by bolstering its forces in Crimea and in the eastern free states of Lugansk and Donetsk in the Donbass.

The pro-globalist, pro-E.U. government in Kiev is going to wind up losing plenty of territory if it decides to start a conflict with Russia thinking the West will back them. If war breaks out Ukraine will get its ass kicked and other eastern areas will rise up and break away from the failed, corrupt regime that has been running the country for the last six years.

In the event of the neo-con regime in Kiev taking a serious beating, I could see the possibility of Zaporozhia, Dnepropetrovsk, Kharkov, and Kherson oblasts (regions) breaking away as did Donetsk, Lugansk, and Crimea. The E.U. lick spittles in Kiev have not exactly endeared themselves to those eastern regions.
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Y'all are talking as though Ukraine hasn't been waging war with Russian forces in eastern Ukraine since 2014 (though admittedly low-intensity war .. some sources refer to it as a "frozen conflict").

We might be seeing an escalation over Crimea, or it might be saber-rattling. We will see.
 

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went on the Google News site
four articles in the World News, one of them about an aggressive octopus in Australia. nothing about Russia / Ukraine.
went into the World subsection
not in the top 50 stories.
had to google 'Ukraine' to get any info.
I really hate the news media. they don't care about real news.
 
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