City Kitty,

The mentioned Ru prop trash like D.C. Weekly can't be much worse than the Washington Post as far as prop trash goes.

 

Well, at least WaPo is American-owned and operated. If you're willing to accept Russian propaganda as news that's on you.

 

And if you're willing to acccept American owned leftist/socialist/progressive propaganda aimed at destroying this country as news and then not even have a clue when called on it....that's on you.

What you said is the equivalent of saying, "Well, yes, I'm being beaten daily, but at least it's not some gang banger. It's my husband, so it's OK."

Seriously. Not a clue.

 

Nothing new.
Operation PANDORA - Wikipedia

The History of Russian Involvement in America's Race Wars - The Atlantic

Russian Meddling in the United States: The Historical Context of the Mueller Report (csis.org)
The first part (Mueller report) is best read after smoking some prime bud - The rest offers a historical insight to media manipulation of days gone by.

The Russians (and the old Soviet) have - for years, tried to influence American media and stories. This to what they saw as their advantage.

Today is it best to seek "original' or local to the event sources, and then compare multiple other sources if there is any doubt. Sadly, the compressions of US news (AP, I'm looking at you) -- this accounts for a single event, reported across the US with seeming identical text. That's because it is - identical text.
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(What company owns AP?
AP is based in New York City. The AP is a non-profit cooperative owned by the newspapers, radio and Television stations who share its news stories. Most articles are written by staff members belonging to the Newspaper Guild Union, a part of the AFL-CIO.)
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Just Remember - "fact checking" is now mostly in the eye of the beholder - and the publisher. "Truth" - with a capital T is very hard to find these days and it is getting more difficult owing to the ownership of most US media by a tiny number of companies.

YMMV, please don't shoot the piano player.

 

Not to mention....a LOT of suspiciously pro russian posts on forums.....

 

The most challenging part of debating this subject for me is the tendency of “official” pundits to obfuscate or deny US involvement in the 2004 and 2014 events in Ukraine.

For example, many pro-NATO pundits avoid or refuse to discuss troubling connections between the US State Department and the “protest movement” involved in the 2014 revolution/coup. I for one remember very clearly seeing Victoria Nuland doing her rounds and photo ops and thinking “well, there goes Ukraine” shortly before watching the “spontaneous” ouster of Porochenko and the surprising rise of a comedian.

When official narratives that are amplified and lockstep conflict with contemporaneous recollection of events that I watched happen are discounted as “conspiracy theories” it becomes difficult to put much faith in “official positions” — especially then these contradictions seem to occur in hot spot after hot spot across the world.

As a father I feel terrible for the young men on both sides and their grieving families, but rather than choosing sides to root for, I prefer to look at who is profiting and what led up to it.

Just my $0.02

 

I'm a heck of lot more concerned about American CIA propaganda than any weak attempts from Russia.

When all the news organizations are repeating the same messages word for word, then we know its propaganda perpetuated by Soros/CIA. What's amazing is how the average American will easily regurgitate what ever crap they want the American public to believe.

Even more amazing was the whole Russian propaganda messaging, when the whole time it was the Clintons, American media, Soros, and the CIA, and how easily a large percentage of Americans bought into it.

 

True enough, propaganda is nothing new, as I pointed out in the OP. With respect to left-leaning stuff like WaPo and NPR, at least I know what my neighbors are saying whether or not I agree with them. Russia and China mean us no good and I for one prefer to not spread their propaganda. I believe that since they can't land boots on our turf without finding a gun behind every blade of grass, they're making war using propaganda and cyberattacks.

You all have been warned about specific sites. I'm not going to argue with you. End of discussion.

 

Russia and China both want to manipulate, use and destroy the U.S. If you take some time to look, Russia is doing much better financially than the U.S. media and politicians would have you believe. I am America First and hate all enemies to this.

 

Don't forget India......they are a much bigger player than people commonly talk about.

 

The danger is when major media outlets like FOX, MSNBC, etc. generate stories that were initiated through Russian DI/MI.

 

Isn't that because we have very few actually reporter's/journalist's anymore?

They just seem to be parrots, all bobbling their heads agreeing with each other, over stuff most have no clue what they are actually talking about ... no real indepth research, not even checking if the source of their stollen off the Internet lead is credible, or giving them credit where they copied it from, accuracy and accountability is very rare ...

 

Read the entire post above yours .

I didn't miss anything, also I can do math so I do Know the situation is nothing like what that propaganda piece makes it out to be...

 

Ole Tucker spent about $140 for a Week's worth of groceies(US$) when the average Russian makes about $159 per Month..... IN US $

So What do they do for the other 3 weeks plus other expenses besides food? Sound so good now?

Like I said I've done the research which is why I questioned your sources...

More Russian propaganda IOW

 

Ole Tucker spent about $140 for a Week's worth of groceies(US$) when the average Russian makes about $159 per Month..... IN US $

So What do they do for the other 3 weeks plus other expenses besides food? Sound so good now?

Like I said I've done the research which is why I questioned your sources...

More Russian propaganda IOW

$159 a month? Where did you read that?

 

The only thing worse than American journalists spouting Russian propaganda is Americans believing it.

 

I believe yer incorrect...

What is worse, is American journos and Media spouting complete and totally false narratives that not just Americans believe and act on, but the whole world.

 

Here is one current example (sort of)

February 9, 2023 -· Employment in RussiaRemote work in RussiaDemographics of RussiaEconomy of Russia · Statista Accounts: Access All Statistics. Starting from $2,388 USD / Year ·

Link

About $199 month which doesn't change anything in reality .

 

The problem I see with so called news outlets, is that it really isn't the news anymore. Back when I was growing up, they reported the News and then there was a 5 or 10 minute segment devoted to commentary. Now the News we receive is all opinion pieces. So you are getting what someone else thinks instead of the actual News.

 

A lot of that which is reported as news is actually social engineering - trying to make the world into a different place to match some ideology followed by a lot of journalists.

 

And lets not forget the use of AI to generate more propaganda! The greatest propagandists of history would be in awe. This is why I like to read a variety of news sources.

Trump supporters target black voters with faked AI images

 

The Russian Federation trade balance for 2023 was a surplus of about USD10 Billion.

The US balance of trade for 2023 was a deficit of about USD773 Billion - which is the largest in the world......and about the same size as the Chinese trade surplus (at about USD823 Billion).

 

The Russian Federation trade balance for 2023 was a surplus of about USD10 Billion.

According to whom exactly?
Russia lies always - always Russia lies. Too many known facts make this impossible to believe ; banks do not do what they've been doing in Russia in "good times".

 

A few of the more readily available sources I found that indicates that Russia is doing better today than a year ago and certainly better than many in our country would have us believe.

Russia’s economy in 2023 performed as well as the UK and France and better than Germany. As per the IMF, the economy grew an estimated three per cent in 2023.

Russia’s economy ‘in for very tough times’ despite improved growth outlook, IMF managing director says

"It is definitely the case that the Russian economy has been doing better than we were expecting and many others were expecting," Pierre-Olivier Gourinchas, the IMF’s chief economist, told the Financial Times in an interview. He pointed out that the main impetus for the development of the Russian economy is provided by the increase in military spending. Stable prices for raw materials (oil, gas) also play an equally important role, allowing for high revenues from their exports and making a significant contribution to the overall GDP dynamics.

IMF raises Russia growth outlook as war boosts economy New 2024 forecast of 2.6% rise doubles previous prediction and prompts questions over sanctions against Moscow

Since February 2022, Western governments have sought to reduce Russia’s revenues from exports of energy and minerals, and starve it of technology and finance, impairing its ability to wage war. In the process they have imposed sanctions on more than 15,000 Russian entities and individuals, according to a database created by the Atlantic Council. But sanctions take time to have an effect. There are still plenty of customers for what Russia does best – selling oil and other commodities. Much of Asia has not signed up to sanctions, providing Russia with ready markets for its oil, as well as with high-technology equipment once bought from the West. India and China now account for 90% of Russian oil exports, according to Deputy Prime Minister Alexander Novak.

There are lessons from Russia’s GDP growth — but not the ones Putin thinks

Russia's economy has weathered the West's sanctions - but how? Russia has spent 10 years quietly sanction-proofing its economy but the West is ramping up its assault on the country’s oil revenues and the strain is starting to show.

Twelve months ago, Western analysts expected an overall contraction over the course of 2023. Instead, Russia’s economy grew far more strongly than Western nations (including the UK), with GDP up by more than 3%. Higher oil prices and a ramping-up of exports to China and India have helped protect Russia from the catastrophe many predicted. The withdrawal of Western firms has opened up new niches for Russian firms, while capital controls have left them with no option but to invest in Russia. And massively increased defence spending – including on soldiers’ wages and compensation to families, as well as arms manufacturing – has helped fuel a mini-boom in poorer parts of the country.

Russia's economy is going strong despite sanctions from the U.S. and its allies

Russian economy

 

A few of the more readily available sources I found that indicates that Russia is doing better today than a year ago and certainly better than many in our country would have us believe.

Russia’s economy in 2023 performed as well as the UK and France and better than Germany. As per the IMF, the economy grew an estimated three per cent in 2023.

Russia’s economy ‘in for very tough times’ despite improved growth outlook, IMF managing director says

"It is definitely the case that the Russian economy has been doing better than we were expecting and many others were expecting," Pierre-Olivier Gourinchas, the IMF’s chief economist, told the Financial Times in an interview. He pointed out that the main impetus for the development of the Russian economy is provided by the increase in military spending. Stable prices for raw materials (oil, gas) also play an equally important role, allowing for high revenues from their exports and making a significant contribution to the overall GDP dynamics.

IMF raises Russia growth outlook as war boosts economy New 2024 forecast of 2.6% rise doubles previous prediction and prompts questions over sanctions against Moscow

Since February 2022, Western governments have sought to reduce Russia’s revenues from exports of energy and minerals, and starve it of technology and finance, impairing its ability to wage war. In the process they have imposed sanctions on more than 15,000 Russian entities and individuals, according to a database created by the Atlantic Council. But sanctions take time to have an effect. There are still plenty of customers for what Russia does best – selling oil and other commodities. Much of Asia has not signed up to sanctions, providing Russia with ready markets for its oil, as well as with high-technology equipment once bought from the West. India and China now account for 90% of Russian oil exports, according to Deputy Prime Minister Alexander Novak.

There are lessons from Russia’s GDP growth — but not the ones Putin thinks

Russia's economy has weathered the West's sanctions - but how? Russia has spent 10 years quietly sanction-proofing its economy but the West is ramping up its assault on the country’s oil revenues and the strain is starting to show.

Twelve months ago, Western analysts expected an overall contraction over the course of 2023. Instead, Russia’s economy grew far more strongly than Western nations (including the UK), with GDP up by more than 3%. Higher oil prices and a ramping-up of exports to China and India have helped protect Russia from the catastrophe many predicted. The withdrawal of Western firms has opened up new niches for Russian firms, while capital controls have left them with no option but to invest in Russia. And massively increased defence spending – including on soldiers’ wages and compensation to families, as well as arms manufacturing – has helped fuel a mini-boom in poorer parts of the country.

Russia's economy is going strong despite sanctions from the U.S. and its allies

Russian economy

Russia’s economy is in shambles.

If only the general public could see the truth data on what their situation actually is…

 

I can recommend this English blogger living in the Russian province.

Sam's Russian Adventures

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youtube.com

 

I watched the video on "Do you speak English" and noticed how thin and attractive the women are.

 

From 2013
"For decades, a so-called anti-propaganda law prevented the U.S. government’s mammoth broadcasting arm from delivering programming to American audiences. But on July 2, that came silently to an end with the implementation of a new reform passed in January. The result: an unleashing of thousands of hours per week of government-funded radio and TV programs for domestic U.S. consumption in a reform initially criticized as a green light for U.S. domestic propaganda efforts. So what just happened? "
(U.S. Repeals Propaganda Ban, Spreads Government-Made News to Americans – Foreign Policy )

Facts About Smith-Mundt Modernization – USAGM

Microsoft Word - 109-2 Sager for PDF (northwestern.edu)

 

Sound so good now?

 

They've been at it for a long time. Nothing new.

 

The first casualty, when war comes, is truth

was said by Hiram Johnson during World War 1.

He died on Aug. 6, 1945, the day the United States dropped an atomic bomb on Hiroshima.


After a short break in the 1990s the Cold War continues to this day.

 

Russian national debt to GDP is about 22%, total national debt is 288 billion dollars

Russia National Government Debt, 2009 – 2024 | CEIC Data

Russia National Government Debt reached 287.8 USD bn in Jan 2024, compared with 285.4 USD bn in the previous month.

www.ceicdata.com

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Ratio of national debt to GDP Russia 2030| Statista

In 2024, the ratio of national debt to gross domestic product (GDP) of Russia amounted to about 20.30 percent.

www.statista.com

USA has 34 trillion dollars in national debt, and that number is increasing by a trillion every 100 days. US debt to GDP is 122%

Federal Debt: Total Public Debt as Percent of Gross Domestic Product

View the ratio of federal debt to the economic output of the U.S., which can indicate economic health and the sustainability of government borrowing.

fred.stlouisfed.org

It's not just our government that is racking up debt that won't be repaid, our citizens are hurting too, credit card debt is piling up:

I'd say compared to us, Russia is doing just fine. As the BRICS nations increase, I'd say Russia has better economic prospects than we do.

 

BRICS already overtook G7 a couple years ago, so if nothing else changes, we'll be where Russia and China were 20 years ago, and they'll be where we were. And the first step to making those changes is for people to admit there's actually a problem. For some people, that's just too inconvenient. Screaming "Russian propaganda" is easier. This will of course ensure nothing gets done about it, and we will just continue to get worse.

 

I watch YouTube channel 1420. A real Russian talking to real Russians on the street. There is a bias but the interviewer lets the people speak, which most turn down due to being scared. I suggest people view. And most average Russian is just as ugly as the average American.

https://youtube.com/@1420channel?si=gcvtnKUzQXyYr5EB

 

LOL, US media is the epidemy of propaganda as is US politics. Same ice cream maker, different flavors added. Its just not as overt but it is as concrete. I dont lie to myself, as a personal choice.

I'm glad that the music is finally ending in this country. Short of bankruptcy forcing long overdue monetary change, our country will never heal. I guess that Eisenhower was right in 1959 after all. I think that our country died with the JFK coup in 1963. Its been downhill ever since.

Here is a thought. Niether of the old codger POTUS choices get 270 electorial college votes because protest votes creat a shocking third candidate with a very similar number of electorial votes....like 2016. A darkhorse. Who does the House of Reps vote for? Its happened before. North of 40% of the voters identify as Independants in exit polls. Thats the moderates from both national parties. Thats how the GOP started. Thats how the DNC started. As protest votes in elections.

 

Propaganda Definition & Meaning - Merriam-Webster

Propaganda is nothing new and, in this day, and age almost exclusively used to further political ends. I would have been surprised if the Russians didn't use the Tucker interview to propagandize.

 

Not to mention....a LOT of suspiciously pro russian posts on forums.....

It is absolute idiocy when people seem to think if you aren't anti Russia that you are pro Russia. Or that if you aren't rabidly pro Ukraine that you are pro Russian. Or that if you speak up and say that Russia does something well that you are pro Russia. It is completely possible to have a neutral opinion on them.

Russia is not bad at everything, they aren't wrong on everything, just like the US isn't right on everything or good at everything.

Oh, and the US government puts out propaganda all over the world too, just like most other decent sized countries.

It should be, but Russia isn’t.

Nor is the US government.