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Russia Central bank Announces Ruble Bound to Gold!

3.9K views 59 replies 25 participants last post by  merlinfire  
#1 ·
Say goodbye to the dollar as the worlds reserve currency..


and


Remember why we went into Libya.....
 
#6 ·
This is bigger than most folks know, we have been on the petro dollar since 71 when tricky **** nixon took us of the gold standard and the saudis agreed to ONLY sell oil in USD, now they are looking to accept yuan to buy oil


the USD is not back by anything.....
 
#10 ·
Russian federation population - 144 Million.
"In 2009, Russia recorded annual population growth for the first time in fifteen years; and during the mid 2010s, Russia had seen increased population growth due to declining death rates, increased birth rates and increased immigration "

Texas - a bit les at 29 million
 
#12 ·
Russia's GDP is $1.5T, Texas GDP is $2T, CA's is $3.4T, CA's econmy economy is more than 2x the size of Russia's. This has nothing to do with size of land or population, their economy is relatively small in global terms. They can decide they will only take Gold or Rubles, that will not cause any other country, maybe outside of couple former soviet union ones, to switch their international trading from USD to RUB. That said, the end of the dollar as international trade currency is near, mostly because we abused our control of the dollar to impose random sanctions on countries we don't like or are afraid of, if we add to that unstable leadership which canceles previously signed agreements and deals you get countries who no longer trust the US as a partner and will look for an alternative trade currency. Unforutnalty for us, over the last few years China has become more stable and more reliable partner.
 
#16 · (Edited)
Apparantluy they are denominating the Ruble in gold at the exchange rate of 5,000 grams of gold to one Ruble.

There are 31.1 grams of gold in one troy oz. CME gold closed today at 1,922 in US dollars.

If gold is priced at 5,000 Rubles per gram that means that Russia is saying that 5,000 Rubles is equal to US$ 1,922 or that 1 US dollar is worth 2.6 rubles.

The Ruble is trading today in the currency markets at 94.5 rubles for 1 US dollar so the free market on Rubles is 94.5 to the dollar but the Puten exchange rate is 2.6 to the dollar therefore the exchange rate is being increased by a factor of 36x.
 
#20 ·
This is what I have been very concerned about. The Ukraine "incursion" was just a face to the real underlying agenda....Bring down the dollar.

We need an in house economist to pipe up. Not a wannabe...like me. (I think I have a grasp on macro economics but I'm thinking I need help)

This video..not an economist but is line with my "research"


And how did Russia come up with 5000 rubles/gram of gold? based on their M1 or M2 and the gold reserves they hold? if so they are off.

Their Ruble to gold reserves based on M1 is about 15,600 rubles/gram
Their Ruble to gold reserves based on M2 is about 26300 rubles/gram.

Central bank of russia release..domestic market


And BTW, I know they are not tying the ruble to gold, in a sense, but they are....
 
#24 ·
Would be harder for the money printer to go.
Maybe we all underestimated Putin.
 
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#27 ·
Stop…please just stop

It‘s not what you trade in. It’s what its valued in.

The petrodollar is the settlement currency for oil sales. This is why it’s valued in dollars. Most international trade is valued and traded in dollars. Why, because the selling countries want dollars.

The reality, is we are the tallest midget.

The only time this may not occur is when their are sanctions in place and Country B decides the discount on the sanctioned energy, from Country A, is greater than the world’s criticism. Both parties will agree on the value of the trade in US dollar and settle in another currency based on that value.
 
#28 ·
Stop…please just stop

It‘s not what you trade in. It’s what its valued in.

The petrodollar is the settlement currency for oil sales. This is why it’s valued in dollars. Most international trade is valued and traded in dollars. Why, because the selling countries want dollars.

The reality, is we are the tallest midget.

The only time this may not occur is when their are sanctions in place and Country B decides the discount on the sanctioned energy, from Country A, is greater than the world’s criticism. Both parties will agree on the value of the trade in US dollar and settle in another currency based on that value.
That is the way it has been and currently is. But things change.

 
#44 ·
India is looking at allowing 5 state owned banks to engage in the Rupee - Ruble mechanism and there are limitations on what trade items will be on list. This will be materially good for India and marginally rewarding for Russia, India gets to offload its shonky rice that the Chinese refuse. ;)
 
#49 ·
A

Asag,

Sometimes a nation with a failing economy can be perceived by some as affecting the world. The Eygyption govern has a failing economy. Their locale in the poltically sensitive eastern Med and their canal has a bloc of believers that find relevance to the wider world.
 
#52 ·
Why do China and Russia need to fight a war? They can just wait us out. China collecting dollars for goods to the US and converting them to gold to trade with Russia.

China can wait for the west to implode with the green new deal while selling them solar panels and lithium.

They are running short of lithium based on current supply and even more in the future. Expect really high battery prices, electricity prices, fuel prices .... and printing money to cover. Lithium has increased from ~100,000 CNY to over ~425,000 CNY per ton in the last year. Yeah batteries.

The US is a short term company chasing quarterly profits. These other countries are private entities thinking 30-40 years down the road. If our government wasn't so dysfunctional it wouldn't swing so much and think in terms of the longer good of the country.
 
#53 · (Edited)
Both China's and Russia's problems are population and food.

China will want what Russia has. Russia is making themselves weak and open attack.

US is the tallest midget and we win again because we can feed ourselves, produce energy for ourselves and have Mexico and Canada on our boarders. We also have a positive birth/death ratio. Like it or not we are also importing a TON of low'ish' educated cheap labor. The also happens to be Catholic so they somewhat align with our basic American values system. Honestly they will ultimately become more conservative than liberal based on family views and generally against the 'A' word that can't be mentioned.

We will continue to print until.....there is a taller midget. Don't see there being on in my lifetime.

Batteries....LOL. food and fuel ;)