With migrants amassing the Belerus/Poland boarder, you can bet there is trouble brewing...

Russia knows the USA is weak with spinless Biden not to mention chaos across Europe over Mask Mandates. With spinless Biden too busy catching up with the Scamdemic, blaming China, keeping the US failing economy afloat, and pretty much handing Afghanistan back to the Taliban on the silver platter, what is Russia to lose???

The real test will be what will Spinless Biden do if China attacks Taiwan???

 

Russian language in Ukraine - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

for TK;dr crowd
Polls

• Autonomous Republic of Crimea — 97% of the population.
• Dnipropetrovsk Oblast — 72%
• Donetsk Oblast — 93%
• Luhansk Oblast — 89%
• Zaporizhia Oblast — 81%
• Odessa Oblast — 85%
• Kharkiv Oblast — 74%
• Mykolaiv Oblast — 66%

In watching "Bald and Bankrupt" a single source of uncensored HUMINT - many areas along to border are very Russian (signage, language and even taking Rubles)

The host often asks older folks about the USSR - and they reply 'things (or life) were 'better back then'...

Keep in mind - the same is true here. I suspect the average reader on this board will say "things were better back then'....(pre-1980 or 90s).. I know I certainly do.

It will take at least two generations (maybe three) before there is acceptance of the borders as seen to day. If the boarders remain. Many Russian speakers claim they are harassed for 'being Russian'. - thus the support seen in many polls.

Bottom line, if Russian aggression is unchecked, the Ukraine will devolve into two or three sectors, based on language and culture.

I've posted links to the board from B&B, should you wish to watch fro yourself.

 

Bald and Bankrupt

I also watch this channel as a trains fan . This dude always finds someone to drink with.

 

Why wouldn't they take advantage?The EU is weak,especially when America isn't there to back them up. Same a China flexing its muscles.

 

If Russia launches a full scale invasion, it will be a protracted decades long bloodbath. Ukraine ain’t Georgia. They won’t fold in a week.

 

The Ukraine had a hard time containing the incursion into the Crimea by paramiltary forces .A 100,000 Russian army would be much harder to stop. I don't think the Ukrainians were allowed to keep any of their nukes after the fall of the soviet union.

 

Would a coordinate3d assault on the Ukraine and Taiwan be in the works?

The playbook is literally out of the 1930's.

 

Would a coordinate3d assault on the Ukraine and Taiwan be in the works?

The playbook is literally out of the 1930's.

China and Russia are as good of allies as Germany and Russia were in 1940. They don't trust each other . They might mutually exploit an incursion by the other to their own ends though.

 

My 2 coins worth of thought/opinion:

Is there such a viable organization named "NATO" without US participation ?

 

Without America's money and military support and the infighting between members, NATO is a joke.

 

Spuhseeba, Exarmy.

After DeGaulle withdrew France from the NATO military command structure in 1963 (I think '63) France never completely returned to the military portion of NATO. France kept out of the NATO nuclear planning group with it's own Force de frappe (strike force)

Germany is more interested in a pipeline under the Baltic.

The UK is closely allied with the US now.

Perhaps Turkey and Iceland can mobilize against 100,000 Russian troops.

Of course, NATO's long gone less the meetings and some exercises that are really vacations / holidays.

 

NATO was really only a cold war alliance against the ex Soviet union. It's morphed into wars in Yugoslavia and Afghanistan.

 

Again? These horror stories are told to you 2 times a year.
Just once, when Russia is conducting exercises or something like that, then from all the TVs I hear "Russia will attack now!"

the Russian border and via Belarus

And what does Ukraine have to do with it? It is 350 kilometers to its border.

 

covering extensive territory and prepared for a potentially prolonged occupation.

One simple question - WHY is it for Russia?
To fix broken Ukrainian roads? Or rebuild their stopped industry?
Russia invests in Crimea about the size of the budget of the whole Ukraine. Why do Russians need this "suitcase without a handle"?

 

Never say never. Are you buddies with Putin? You only know what the government tells you ,the same as us. I'm not saying I believe this anti Russian rhetoric but never speak for any countries policies because you just don't know.

 

I have a feeling like I have heard same thing before:

Again? These horror stories are told to you 2 times a year.
Just once, when Russia is conducting exercises or something like that, then from all the TVs I hear "Russia will attack now!"

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And what does Ukraine have to do with it? It is 350 kilometers to its border.

My thoughts exactly Media just trying to create a smoke screen. How come NYP Hunter Biden yesterday's story is not everywhere? Or that attack in Wisconsin faded from all the front pages. All the media quickly back to the boogeyman story.

 

Media just trying to create a smoke screen.

The Ukrainian authorities are now in a disastrous position due to poor preparation for the winter. Coal and gas have not been purchased in the required volume.
"As of the beginning of October, there were only 614,000 tonnes in stocks, four times lower than over the same period last year. "

Russian coal supply to Ukraine halts amid deepening energy crisis

Individual news pages

www.icis.com

Around February, these reserves will run out, then the "Russian offensive" is planned.

 

Keep in mind that we all can armchair scrutinize this and be totally wrong.

I want to make clear that the last time this went on, the Russian troops were withdrawn after a claim of "exercise"..
To whit, I will say, fine.
then OK.

the Ukraine right now is a total mess.
the corruption in there is as bad if not worse than Belarus and the whole affair is similar to what happened with the French and Indo china before and after it becoming Vietnam.

to Trackball, trust me when we say we are not looking at the rank and file or the civilian populace.

were looking at stark parallels to historic events and given OUR issues here in the US, were worried!

Our leadership is feckless at best right now, and ANY fight over the Ukraine is NOT in our interests ATALL!

But the cold fact is that the Ukraine is playing with fire here with the dabbling with NATO, and quite frankly they need to decide one way or the other rather than play the US and NATO as the biker backup dude to the wimpy kid picking fights with the local bully.

Personally, the Ukraine screwed up their system badly after the early 1990's and this is one fight we need to avoid like the plague.
but COULD very possibly get pulled into.

Add Taiwan into the mix and it feels like 1938 all over again.

 

So what if they invade, nothing we can do but sit back and watch. After being lied to for 20 years about our progress in Afghanistan who in the hell believes anything american/Nato intelligence puts out... Besides, When the Dollar implodes and our country blows up nobody here is going to give crap about what other nations are doing...

 

I wonder how much advertisement revenue was generated by this story in the media?

 

According to U.S. and NATO intelligence reports ...

That right there is all you need to know. They are batting what, .200?

Why do Russians need this "suitcase without a handle"?

Good one.

 

We all know, the media will claim it’s Trumps fault, Biden won’t do squat, and Ukraine is finished as soon as Russia decides to go.

 

If Europe likes the warmth provided by Russian natural gas in the winter, won't do anything either.

 

Disagree. America will have to act militarily or look weak.

Next incident: Likely sinking of US ships in the Black Sea.

Result: US troop deployment in Europe twice the size of Operation Desert Shield (1990). US young people probably urged to prepare for a possible military draft.

 

Disagree. America will have to act militarily or look weak.

Too damned late.

 

The ukraine will be of vital importance as a grain producing region come the future.

 

Stop for a moment and think here folks.

1: Russia Gate.
2: Russian collusion in other aspects.
3: Ukrainian files on Biden.
4: Ukraine gate involving Trump.
5; Dombas oil pipeline.

Those situations would make ne think that Biden is either pro Ukraine or anti Russia, but I am beginning to think that the Russian collusion aspect is a smokescreen for something far different.

None of which looks nice, and I am going to say that it isn't our standard black and white view of things.

 

By the way, we have before us an example of "fake news"
Everyone writes that Russian troops are on the border with Ukraine, but no one writes exactly where.
Why? Because they are NOT on the border.
The only source who points to the Russian location of the troops is https://www.voanews.com/

US, Ukraine Scrutinize Russian Troop Buildup as Moscow Dismisses Invasion Fears

Ukrainian officials estimate 90,000 Russian troops are now positioned along the border and in Russian-controlled parts of eastern Ukraine

www.voanews.com

"shows the presence of a large ground force deployment near Yelnya, Smolensk region, Russia "

Let's look at the map

Here is a "surprise attack"

 

Russia, China sign roadmap for closer military cooperation

Russia’s defense chief has signed a roadmap for closer military ties with China, pointing to increasingly frequent U.S. strategic bomber flights near both countries’ borders.

www.local10.com

Well, that’s an interesting twist…. Who said 3d plans? 😬

 

Funny piece in the paper this morning... "US Claims of Troupes on Border is a Myth" says Putin.

 

The UK and the US have wasted enough lives this past 20 years, And our Troops deserve better, If the EU want to play power struggles let them get on with it.

 

one timeline of an invasion of Taiwan has it happening in January 2022. Could be Russians preparing to settle a few things when Xi invades Taiwan and keeps the uS busy.