IF there's anything to it at all, it probably results from high-level exposure, such as a commercial farmer filling his sprayer tanks repeatedly and spraying hundreds of acres without using ppe.

Glyphosphate breaks down rapidly. It does not get into your food or create exposure every time you walk through your yard.

Yes, I will still use it when I need to ahead of planting. For instance, I have a small bed of strawberry plants that never produced well, but refused to die when I gave up and mowed them. There's also some mint in there that escaped it's pots. I intend to spray that bed. Won't be doing the whole garden because Roundup costs money and I'm cheap. I just don't have any confidence that tilling alone will finish off the strawberry and mint.

Of course I'm also not planting this year as the soil needs work and I don't foresee having the time or money to get it done and be able to plant in the same season.

 

IF there's anything to it at all, it probably results from high-level exposure, such as a commercial farmer filling his sprayer tanks repeatedly and spraying hundreds of acres without using ppe.

Glyphosphate breaks down rapidly. It does not get into your food or create exposure every time you walk through your yard.

Yes, I will still use it when I need to ahead of planting. For instance, I have a small bed of strawberry plants that never produced well, but refused to die when I gave up and mowed them. There's also some mint in there that escaped it's pots. I intend to spray that bed. Won't be doing the whole garden because Roundup costs money and I'm cheap. I just don't have any confidence that tilling alone will finish off the strawberry and mint.

Of course I'm also not planting this year as the soil needs work and I don't foresee having the time or money to get it done and be able to plant in the same season.

Can you prove it? Do you work for Monsanto?

 

I'll still spray with it,and I'll still avoid drinking it from the bottle.

It might cause cancer in the long run,but I could also get skin cancer standing out there weeding by hand.

 

roundup is being accused of causing the increase in autism cases as well.

It might be that GMO food is fine. But the #1 modification is roundup resistance which allows farmers to soak the plants with roundup to kill the weeds. The plants themselves are resistant but may have enough roundup residue to harm developing children.

 

"Glyphosphate breaks down rapidly. It does not get into your food or create exposure every time you walk through your yard."

Quote from above post!!!

 

I use a mixture of salt, water and vinegar. Works amazingly well.


Edit:
Forgot dish soap. Knew I was missing something. I guess the soap keeps it from running off the plant.

 

yeup, no need for round up

 

I only use roundup in non-food areas like down the sides of the drive way. Oh, and on poison ivy, belladonna and other icky plants.

 

Try the salt, vinegar, water, dish soap mixture for poison ivy. That is what spurred me to try it because I bought a place that came with about 1/8th an acre of poison ivy in the woods.

 

all of that crap causes health problems...'cide' means to kill...so you're taking your chances. the fun part is that *IF* it appears that any of these products are going to cause a problem in humans, the company gets to change one molecule of the formulation then the government gives them another 20 years of usage as a 'new product' to test and gather information...18 years in, the whole process starts all over again. i have known many many people with brain, lung, and autoimmune disease as well as permanent damage from fungicide, herbicide and pesticide products during 'normal' usage.

 

Use it and handle it according to the instructions and there's no problem. This sounds like it's going the way of Vapam (soil sterilizer). It was perfectly fine and safe to use, but it is now banned. Reason was it killed some people, but those people used it on the inside of their houses, where it's use is forbidden by the instructions. If people are that stupid, well......

 

"The proponents of Glyphosate herbicides promote them as environment friendly or benign. They say that they breakdown very quickly in the environment.

The facts show otherwise. A report from The United States Environmental Protection Agency states that Glyphosate is 'extremely persistent under typical application conditions'. It is one of the most residual herbicides, with studies in Sweden showing that one application can last up to 3 years."


"Residues can be detected long after glyphosate treatments have been made. One study showed that lettuces contained residues five months after the field was treated with glyphosate. The disturbing thing about this research is that the lettuce seedlings were planted four months after the field was sprayed for weeds. The seedlings absorbed the glyphosate from the soil residues."


"A World Health Organisation study revealed significant Glyphosate residues in wheat after harvest. Milling did not remove it, as it moves into the plant and the wheat seed. The study showed that cooking does not break down Glyphosate."


https://www.organicconsumers.org/ne...onsantos-toxic-herbicide-glyphosate-review-its-health-and-environmental-effects

 

Brilliant. You are aware that these are the same people who praise organic farming using Rotenone? You might also want to know that Rotenone is toxic to humans. mammals, and fish. It is lethal for children at only 143 mg/kg. Lab tests have shown a connection between Rotenone and Parkinsons Disease. Yet people just keep patting themselves on the back for how much better they are by eating organic.

 

Salt vinegar dish soap weed killer

Please post recipe you have used that works.

 

Round-up is remarkably inert in the landscape. It is not approved for use around water, ponds and rivers, but there are derivatives like Rodeo that are. One of the problems with outlawing Roundup is, what are you going to replace it with?

It is Glyphosate, not Glyphosphate.
The people in Ecotopia really hate the stuff and Monsanto the manufacturer. They hate GMO foods. I think it is a bunch of hooey.

Roundup is effective, cheap and not dangerous. The average homeowner can use it without ill effects. Avoid skin contact, and don't use it on your breakfast cereal and you will be fine.

 

Its funny how people in this forum distrust the authorities when it comes to firearms, ******** and regulation but totally accept anything they say about the use of harmful pesticides. Just because the government and Big Agro say it is safe does not make it safe. When money comes into it they will tell you anything is safe. Science says these chemicals are harmful yet you cannot accept that? Would you rather listen to a politician who works on the side with Monsanto?

 

If you all choose to ignore the facts that everything Monsanto makes is poison then you get what you deserve.
They infect organic farms with their GMOs and then sue the farmer for theft of intellectual property. They use mercenaries to strong arm and intimidate private organic farmers and when that isn't enough they find themselves on the wrong end of an unfortunate "accidental" barn fire or hunting accident.
They own the infamous "security firm" Blackwater.
Monsanto has a history of infiltrating the FDA with their poisoned ideals.
Why do you think that there has never been any oversight?
Why do you think that so many countries are boycotting Monsanto?
There is no need ever for poisoning the soil. Mother nature is well adept at taking care of the earth. Just because you don't like the clover or dandelion doesn't mean you have to poison everything around them. They are pioneer plants for a reason. Get a grip. Do the research. Educate yourself. Stop falling for the corperate lies and propoganda.

 

Get a grip. Do the research. Educate yourself. Stop falling for the corperate lies and propoganda.

Good advice for you to follow.

 

I remember reading that Glyphosate/Round up has antibiotic properties to it. Monsanto even has a patent on glyphosate as an antibiotic. Antibiotics can be a life saver at times, but additionally when over used, or used unnecessary will raise cancer risks from what I've read.

Dr. Champ, a cancer physician has written a few articles on the potential link between antibiotic use and increased risk of some cancers. One of his articles on this can be read here ~

"Do Antibiotics Cause Cancer? Part II"

http://www.cavemandoctor.com/2015/02/25/antibiotics-cause-cancer/

 

What's wead? Can it be smoked?

 

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Yeah, I'm inclined to agree.

Sure -- there may be risks to industrial exposure (which can be mitigated), but I doubt there's much consumer risk. It would have shown up in much more profound ways before now.

 

I have never used it near anything edible, but I have used it on the encroaching star jasmine that a former neighbor planted up the fence-line.

 

Weed killers , herbicides , pesticides , etc. , it's all poison no matter how you look at it .
Same thing with tick and flea treatments for pets = poison .

Yeah "they" say it's safe but do you really trust them ?

Might not be as effective as chemical poisons but you can make your own "natural" herbicides , pesticides and flea and tick treatments .

 

Weed killers , herbicides , pesticides , etc. , it's all poison no matter how you look at it .
Same thing with tick and flea treatments for pets = poison .

Yeah "they" say it's safe but do you really trust them ?

Life is risky, but agricultural chemicals are a risk we have to take right now. Like it or not chemical pesticides and fertilizers make it possible to feed billions of people. Organic farming is not up to the task, yet.

Personally, I don't use chemical pesticides around my home and use very little fertilizer. But other folks need to, and as long as they use them as safely as possible, I'll make my peace with that.

Might not be as effective as chemical poisons but you can make your own "natural" herbicides , pesticides and flea and tick treatments .

Could you share some of those recipes?

Thanks.
LS

 

Be careful and to not get any on your privates.

 

Monsanto is round up.

 

It never occurred to me to spray my food with killer poison before harvest.

 

I don't think thats how it is used,never saw in the instructions to spray on your food.

 

Roundup ready corn

Ever heard of roundup ready corn. Almost the only corn grown in america these days. EU has band it and classifies it as a hazzardous material. The stuff is in all corn products you eat. Keep listening to the Monsanto employees that tell you how great it is to eat food that has a poison in it. The scientists that developed Gly4 do not eat it at their place of work or at home, as it is baned. Wonder why?
The world is awakening to the need to stop the use of Gly4 in anything, now its your turn to wake up.

 

Someone gave me a recipe for homemade roundup but haven't tried it. 1/2 gal vinegar
1/2 Cup salt and 2 T liquid dish soap. Cheap enough to give it a try.

 

Never worked on my gardens. I tried it two years in a row, didn't do much except make the garden smell slight of vinegar and dish soap.

Tobacco is supposed to work, but I haven't grown any to try it.

 

Get a goat?

 

What's roundup? :

No, I've never used it.

I don't see any need to use poison to control plant growth or to grow food.

 

Pouring salt in your garden is not the best idea, I have used roundup to edge my garden and control grass and weeds for a long time. Without chemical help there is no way I could have a garden even 1/5 the size I have now, so much rain , blowing weed seed and good soil . the local weeds grow like gang buster's. I lay down card board and cover over thing in wood chips from my chipper and I still spend hrs a week just pulling grass. With out the round up perimeter the crab grass would talk over in no time . but I live on the edge of the grass planes.

 

It is terrible that the chemical companies have convinced homeowners that they are bad neighbors if they have dandelions and other weeds in their yard. There is no law that says your yard must have one kind of grass and it has to be neon green and without weeds. Your yard will be better with clover, dandelions, and all the other weeds and no chemical fertilizers or weed killers. People blame farmers for high nutrient runoff in water and look at all the people who dump tons of chemicals on residential lawns for no benefit. If you are a farmer and have many acres of crops to deal with that is one thing, but the whole game of who has a better, greener lawn is bs.