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Well, this is a peek at what's around the corner for North America and Europe.

Riots in Hong Kong

There have been riots on the streets of Hong Kong following heavy losses
at the city's Hang Seng index. The Hang Seng closed over 8% lower with
losses in banks, communications companies and exploration companies.
Customers are trying to get their money out of bank branches and many
are protesting about losses related to the collapse of Lehman Brothers.




Russia shuts down stock market for two days...again

Russian authorities closed the Micex Stock Exchange for two days as a new
$36 billion injection into the banking system by President Dmitry Medvedev
failed to halt the country's biggest stock collapse since 1998. The Micex
Index plunged for a sixth day, falling 14 percent to 637.87, the lowest level
in more than three years, before trading was halted at 11:05 a.m



Naomi Wolf in Alternet: Thousands of Battle Troops Have Been Deployed to U.S. Streets Ready to Carry Out "Crowd Control"

Background: the First Brigade of the Third Infantry Division, three to four
thousand soldiers, has been deployed in the United States as of October 1.
Their stated mission is the form of crowd control they practiced in Iraq,
subduing "unruly individuals," and management of a national emergency.
George Bush struck down Posse Comitatus, thus making it legal for military
to patrol the U.S. He has also legally established that the U.S. is at war
around the globe and thus the whole world is a battlefield. Thus the U.S. is
also a battlefield. He also led change to the 1807 Insurrection Act to give
him far broader powers in the event of a loosely defined "insurrection" or
many other "conditions" he has the power to identify. The Constitution
allows the suspension of habeas corpus -- habeas corpus prevents us from
being seized by the state and held without trial -- in the event of an
"insurrection." With his own army force now, his power to call a group of
angry voters "insurgents" staging an "insurrection" is strengthened . . .




Washington Post: Mainstream Media Failed to Warn Public of Crisis

Charlie Gasparino was so anxious to get on the air that he phoned in to
CNBC, rather than walking to the studio, to report that nervous federal
authorities were considering a bailout of the insurance giant AIG. "I was
sweating through my underwear. That was scary," the correspondent says
of his mid-September story, which wasn't confirmed until that night. When
his colleagues said on the air that their own sources were expecting AIG to
go bankrupt instead, "that freaked me out." The stakes are enormous in a
fast-moving crisis where the traditional concern about journalists causing a
run on the bank is hardly a theoretical danger. But as news organizations
chase exclusives about the Wall Street meltdown, they also are grappling
with a troubling question: Why didn't they see this coming?



Economist: British Government Partially Nationalizes Its Banking System

After days of leaks and rumours that destabilised stockmarkets, Gordon
Brown’s Labour government unveiled a comprehensive rescue package for
Britain’s ailing banks before markets opened on Wednesday ctober 8th. And
at mid-day the Bank of England joined with the world's big central banks in
a co-ordinated cutting of interest rates. Britain's base rate came down by
half a percentage point, to 4.5%. America's Federal Reserve cut rates by
the same amount, to 1.5%. And the European Central Bank and the central
banks of Sweden, Switzerland and Canada joined the effort to tackle the
financial crisis. The British government's rescue package is historic for it
amounts to the partial nationalisation of the banks, an extraordinary step
for a government that spent months trying to avoid taking Northern Rock
into state ownership. At stake is not just the future of the financial system
but whether the economy can avoid a severe recession — and whether
Labour can avoid a catastrophe at the general election, due by June 2010.




Money.co.uk: Icelandic Bank Suspends Access to Customers Accounts

To this end, the banks effectively been taken over by the government in
order to safeguard domestic savers. UK customers of Icesave, however,
are not covered by this guarantee - due to the fact that Kaupthing and
Landsbanki are registered in different ways in the UK. As of this morning
the bank is not allowing savers to withdraw funds from their accounts. "We
are not currently processing any deposits or any withdrawal requests
through our Icesave internet accounts," the provider said in a statement
on its website. "We apologise for any inconvenience this may cause . . ."




Banks buckling across Europe

For months, as global financial woes spread, U.S. banks stood front and
center amidst the chaos. October 6 provided something of a counterpoint.
Following Germany's announcement that it would temporarily insure all
holdings in German bank accounts to protect against a run, European
markets led a sharp global stock plunge that carried over into the United
States. Leading indices in France and Germany dropped over 6 percent,
and Britain's FTSE 100 index fell nearly 8 percent; the Dow Jones Industrial
Average subsequently plunged in early trading, falling below 10,000 for the
first time in four years. Concerns about the implementation of the U.S.
bailout factored into the declines, but anthe losses reflect a recognition
that financial problems in Europe are deeper than had been thought.
 

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I can't find anything online about the Hong Kong riots? BBC has a lot on the econmy there, but nothing about any disturbance.
What, did you really think the corrupt media would make that public knowledge?
You're supposed to start feeling reassured and to think things are getting better. News about riots would totally wreck the latest effort at pulling the wool over our eyes?
 

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Maybe in this case it's better if the public doesn't know. Actually, I wish I hadn't found out
 

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Saw uniformed National Guard in my downtown area yesterday and increased activity at the National Guard Armory in Hillsboro, Oregon (saw some going into a nearby grocery store). Also, 8 or 10 Humvee-type vehicles have suddenly materialized after months of no vehicles being parked at the Armory parking lot next to the fairgrounds.
 

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Our Air National Guard Unit out by Lambert Field has suddenly acquired a huge quantity of humvees and other troop transports. That lot has been completely empty for YEARS...nothing but dunnage and storage trailers...til a week ago.
 

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Maybe in this case it's better if the public doesn't know. Actually, I wish I hadn't found out
I wish I could understand that kind of philosophy but I don't. It makes me think of someone who has cancer symptoms and things that the best course of action is not to go to the doctor and find out but rather to ignore the symptoms because "if you don't know, it's like you don't have it".

Could you explain why you wish you didn't know?
 

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I wish I could understand that kind of philosophy but I don't. It makes me think of someone who has cancer symptoms and things that the best course of action is not to go to the doctor and find out but rather to ignore the symptoms because "if you don't know, it's like you don't have it".

Could you explain why you wish you didn't know?
The world did this when Hitler was invading poland and then they continued to wish they didn't know anything when he started to commit genocide. And when it was all over they realised that they could have done something to stop it all early on but instead they all had the heads in the sand ignoring the world around them. Wake up people the world is not going to be the same anymore and what we are all preparing for is on our doorstep kicking our front door in.
 

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Our Air National Guard Unit out by Lambert Field has suddenly acquired a huge quantity of humvees and other troop transports. That lot has been completely empty for YEARS...nothing but dunnage and storage trailers...til a week ago.
what kinds of military aircraft have ramp space there? They might be there for a deployment. Overseas or otherwise
 

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i hope we hold on another year. im almost ready
i just want to finalize that house- get more ammo and food, water, and that new RPK
 

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what kinds of military aircraft have ramp space there? They might be there for a deployment. Overseas or otherwise
F-15Es are normally based there, but Lambert Field could possibly be a staging area for C-5s or C-17s.

IMHO, the situation bears watching.
 

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MSM in the US, Europe, Asia and Downunder are all seriously under-reporting on this meltdown. I believe it is for two main reasons:
1. To help prevent panic
2. To not erode investor confidence any further

I also believe that #2 above is the main reason and I'd expect it to continue like this. When the MSM starts to seriously report on these things like they should, you can be sure that we've passed the tipping point and TPTB figures why try to hide it when all folks have to do is look at the smoke out their window.

Gather info from as many non-or semi-nutjob sources as you can and try to analyse it. The local Mainstream Media is not going to tell you squat until it's too late. BBC world service is USUALLY a reliable source, but I'm not sure what's happening behind the scenes with them in the current crisis. DON'T trust the Russian news Pravda - they are a worse propaganda device than our own media.
 
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