I love shooting Slugs, I'll give em' a try.:thumb:
Rifled Barrel Relief...
I use a 12ga with a fully rifled barrel... it's a Mossberg model 695. I have spent an absurd amount of money fueling that gun... sabot slugs currently sell for about $3 a piece.
I decided that this gun is my designated SHTF firearm, as it is accurate, packs a punch and needs minimal maintenance... but ammo cost was a problem and I wanted to have a good pile stocked.
After a bit of research, lots of emptied shells and a bruised shoulder, I have finally found a reasonable (and affordable) solution...
Brenneke KO 2 3/4" 1oz. rifled slugs.
After learning that these rifled slugs could indeed be used in a rifled barrel, I tried the Brenneke 3" Magnums -OUCH! So, i bought several boxes of the KO's at $4.89 per box and was pleasantly surprised.
I tested them at 70yds... consistent 2-3" groups and I could shoot them all day without breaking my shoulder or bank account. I had one issue with the shell ejecting, but it seems to have gone away.
After many, many shells, there was hardly any lead fouling in the barrel... hardly anything at all, actually... very clean.
So, for all you folks with rifled barrels, who are tired of spending a fortune on sabot slugs, have no fear. You can affordably stockpile ammo for your slugger... you can, in fact, affordably just shoot it for fun!
I decided that this gun is my designated SHTF firearm, as it is accurate, packs a punch and needs minimal maintenance... but ammo cost was a problem and I wanted to have a good pile stocked.
After a bit of research, lots of emptied shells and a bruised shoulder, I have finally found a reasonable (and affordable) solution...
Brenneke KO 2 3/4" 1oz. rifled slugs.
After learning that these rifled slugs could indeed be used in a rifled barrel, I tried the Brenneke 3" Magnums -OUCH! So, i bought several boxes of the KO's at $4.89 per box and was pleasantly surprised.
I tested them at 70yds... consistent 2-3" groups and I could shoot them all day without breaking my shoulder or bank account. I had one issue with the shell ejecting, but it seems to have gone away.
After many, many shells, there was hardly any lead fouling in the barrel... hardly anything at all, actually... very clean.
So, for all you folks with rifled barrels, who are tired of spending a fortune on sabot slugs, have no fear. You can affordably stockpile ammo for your slugger... you can, in fact, affordably just shoot it for fun!
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Cool, let me know how they work out for you. They are for smooth bores as well... I have read several accounts of folks using them in smooth bores with equal results.I love shooting Slugs, I'll give em' a try.:thumb:
Nice to see people with similar results, I tried the sabots in a rifled choke but ended up having better results from cheap rifled slugs, specifically the Remington Sluggers in a smooth bore with modified choke, I am confident out to 75 yards with 3 inch groups, 100 yards is hard for me due to the use of rifle sights, my eyes are poor, I feel strongly that a scope setup on todays SG's would easily get nice groups at 100 yards with the cheap rifled slugs.
Those curious about the sabots, don't even bother with a rifled CHOKE, the sabots out of a config like that just turn into odd flyers and you will be wasting money.
Those curious about the sabots, don't even bother with a rifled CHOKE, the sabots out of a config like that just turn into odd flyers and you will be wasting money.
Captain I wanted to pipe in here, not to argue with you but I want to make sure you understand what you're talking about and more importantly spending your money on.
a regular joe "slug" AND a "rifled slug" go exclusively in regular shotguns (READ: SMOOTHBORE or NON-RIFLED-BARRELS).
A Regular slug is normal and the idea is HOPEFULLY A "rifled Slug" will pick up some spiraling and therefore stability when it proceeds along its trajectory (read: It will hopefully spin like a rifle bullet).
Rifled slugs are usually a little more than "Regular" slugs in price but nowadays its not even that bad, you can basically focus your shopping attention on Cheap RIFLED slugs and you're good.
They are NOT FOR Rifled barrels. I believe you are shooting them through your barrel and probably think you're shooting okay but you are not using either your gun, Or your ammo, properly.
SABOT Slugs are created Exclusively for Rifled Barrels. They are designed to engage the rifling in the rifled barrel and impart serious (or at least serious for a shotgun) gyroscopic stability upon firing and give maximum spin and twist during flight, like a nice QB pass 70 yards with a football. They are Very expensive.
So I understand your hesitation to spend that money, but no offense, there is no other reason really to have a rifled slug gun than to use sabot slugs for maximum accuracy. I wish not to disagree or argue publically bUt I don't want to see other people make possible mistakes. Rifled Slug Gun = Sabot Slugs, that's why you got it. "Regular" or "Rifled" Slugs may be "cheaper" but you're wasting your money that you seem to already have wasted on that gun.
a regular joe "slug" AND a "rifled slug" go exclusively in regular shotguns (READ: SMOOTHBORE or NON-RIFLED-BARRELS).
A Regular slug is normal and the idea is HOPEFULLY A "rifled Slug" will pick up some spiraling and therefore stability when it proceeds along its trajectory (read: It will hopefully spin like a rifle bullet).
Rifled slugs are usually a little more than "Regular" slugs in price but nowadays its not even that bad, you can basically focus your shopping attention on Cheap RIFLED slugs and you're good.
They are NOT FOR Rifled barrels. I believe you are shooting them through your barrel and probably think you're shooting okay but you are not using either your gun, Or your ammo, properly.
SABOT Slugs are created Exclusively for Rifled Barrels. They are designed to engage the rifling in the rifled barrel and impart serious (or at least serious for a shotgun) gyroscopic stability upon firing and give maximum spin and twist during flight, like a nice QB pass 70 yards with a football. They are Very expensive.
So I understand your hesitation to spend that money, but no offense, there is no other reason really to have a rifled slug gun than to use sabot slugs for maximum accuracy. I wish not to disagree or argue publically bUt I don't want to see other people make possible mistakes. Rifled Slug Gun = Sabot Slugs, that's why you got it. "Regular" or "Rifled" Slugs may be "cheaper" but you're wasting your money that you seem to already have wasted on that gun.
TAK: You are mostly correct. The Brenneke RIFLED slugs are, indeed for use in EITHER a rifled OR smooth bore. Some accuracy beyond 70 yds is lost, but they shoot well otherwise. Believe me, I would not risk the damage to myself or my firearm just to have cheep-o slugs to shoot... I researched it... look it up on their site and they give you all the info you will need. http://www.brennekeusa.com/cms/ko.html?&L=0
Yeah I just don't know where you're getting this as if, this particular "The Brenneke RIFLED slugs are indeed for use in EITHER" ... Of course they are, you can use any of them you want in that rifled slug barrel. There is no problem, it's just pointless, the reason you'd buy a rifled slug barrel is for shooting slugs, most likely sabot slugs which is why they invented sabot slugs. I'm not really talking about damage bud, of course you're not going to hurt it, it's just pointless and you're posting as if you discovered some secret or something, and you're advocating people do it. What you're doing is saving you money, I guess, sure, but you're not using your gun or the ammo for what either is designed for. No problems, I mean, do what you gotta do and go on with your bad self, but don't start posting like you figured out some secret deal and want to be the bearer of great news for people, you're not exactly providing sound advice here.
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TAK,
Welcome to the forums. Nice third Post.
He has discovered something. He gets acceptable results out of this WAY CHEAPER AMMO. So when he wants uber accuracy he will spend $3 a pop for sabots. When he wants to shoot more he uses cheaper ammo. Since this is a prep forum and we all might want to stock a few rounds on our shelves this becomes useful info.
Thanks Capn Bomb...
TAK,
Welcome to the forums. Nice third Post.
He has discovered something. He gets acceptable results out of this WAY CHEAPER AMMO. So when he wants uber accuracy he will spend $3 a pop for sabots. When he wants to shoot more he uses cheaper ammo. Since this is a prep forum and we all might want to stock a few rounds on our shelves this becomes useful info.
Thanks Capn Bomb...
No, not at all, common misconception. The "rifling" on the slugs is just for nice tight swage fit in barrel. The stability in flight is all about the shuttlecock shape of the slug, it doesn't spin like a bullet from a rifled barrel and is not designed to do so.... is HOPEFULLY A "rifled Slug" will pick up some spiraling and therefore stability when it proceeds along its trajectory (read: It will hopefully spin like a rifle bullet)...
I don't know what a "regular" slug is. Where can I see one for sale?Rifled slugs are usually a little more than "Regular" slugs in price
- OS
I shoot only sabot slugs in my m535.It is a rifled barrel and is only meant for sabot rounds.
What is not sound about getting the same results from a $1 slug as from a $3 slug? Yes, I understand completely that sabot slugs are designed for rifled barrels, but that does not mean that the Brenneke's I mentioned are not designed for the same rifled barrels.Yeah I just don't know where you're getting this as if, this particular "The Brenneke RIFLED slugs are indeed for use in EITHER" ... Of course they are, you can use any of them you want in that rifled slug barrel. There is no problem, it's just pointless, the reason you'd buy a rifled slug barrel is for shooting slugs, most likely sabot slugs which is why they invented sabot slugs. I'm not really talking about damage bud, of course you're not going to hurt it, it's just pointless and you're posting as if you discovered some secret or something, and you're advocating people do it. What you're doing is saving you money, I guess, sure, but you're not using your gun or the ammo for what either is designed for. No problems, I mean, do what you gotta do and go on with your bad self, but don't start posting like you figured out some secret deal and want to be the bearer of great news for people, you're not exactly providing sound advice here.
Why I mention these 'rifled slugs' is first, they ARE cheap... so stocking up on ammo for a rifled barrel slug gun need not cost you a fortune. Second, they ARE accurate to at least 70yds, which is the distance I was shooting them. Third, I wanted to shed at least a bit of light on the fact that there ARE slugs -other than sabots- designed for rifled barrels.
While it is true that sabot slugs are designed specifically for rifled barrels, doesn't mean they are the ONLY ammo. This is important because sabots -while surely more accurate over 100yds- are FLAT OUT OVERPRICED. Think about it, just 100 sabot slugs will run you $300... compare that to any other ammo out there. It is not worth blowing that kind of money to gain a few extra yards... usually.
Yes, I AM recommending that other folks try them for themselves. Why the hell NOT? Yes, you would not be using the firearm to its FULLEST potential, but that's not part of my argument here. People should, of course, do the research themselves... I am only trying to let people here know that there are options that they might not currently be aware of.
Sabot rounds are ONLY meant for rifled barrels, but there are rounds designed for rifled barrels, which are not sabots.I shoot only sabot slugs in my m535.It is a rifled barrel and is only meant for sabot rounds.
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