Good. I don't want people crapping on the anthem and then making millions of dollars because I'm watching the ads.

Nope. Easier just to skip watching (although, as far as I know, the Texans haven't had this problem).

 

Oh well, what can I say. Yes I like football, and I'm a Patriots fan, but when all is said and done, all of those players out on the field are really nothing more than entertainers.

I remember about 18 or so years ago, the base salary of a rookie player was $300k yearly. Mind that's the starting salary. If you're a high profile star like Tom Brady, Cam Newton, or Julius Peppers, it's millions per year. So, basically, so what if they take a hit.

 

hip hip hurrah!

 

That's great. I just saw a team of 3rd graders (little dudes) all kneeling on the field at the instruction of their coach. I think these ungrateful people need a yuge lesson on just how great their country is and how lucky they are to be here. I never wished for wealth in my life but this is one time I wish I was a billionaire who could buy a team and then fire every player who disrespects our flag/nation.

 

Bad thread title

First off...the NFL isn't taking that hit, the media is. Sure, it will trickle down to the NFL eventually...but not yet, and it will be a small percentage of this.


"CBS, ESPN, Fox and NBC could take a $200 million hit to their estimated $2.5 billion in NFL advertising earnings"

Secondly...that's only an 8% hit. Those guys can afford that all day long, they'll make half of it up just getting people to click on the story about losing it.

Thirdly...."despite the declines, analysts also note that the NFL is TV’s biggest draw"

So...it's still the biggest cash cow they have!

Fake news.

You want the REAL news?

Last lines of the article. "In a poll last year, 44% of fans said they would stop watching the NFL if protests against the national anthem continued. In addition, a J.D. Power survey showed fans citing the anthem protests as the main reason they stopped watching NFL games."

Boom. There it is.

 

Bad thread title

First off...the NFL isn't taking that hit, the media is. Sure, it will trickle down to the NFL eventually...but not yet, and it will be a small percentage of this.


Secondly...that's only an 8% hit. Those guys can afford that all day long, they'll make half of it up just getting people to click on the story about losing it.

Thirdly...."despite the declines, analysts also note that the NFL is TV’s biggest draw"

So...it's still the biggest cash cow they have!



Last lines of the article. "In a poll last year, 44% of fans said they would stop watching the NFL if protests against the national anthem continued. In addition, a J.D. Power survey showed fans citing the anthem protests as the main reason they stopped watching NFL games."

Boom. There it is.

The networks have seen viewership drop for the last ten years, ESPN damn sure can't afford an 8% drop, they've been laying people off for the last two years.
ESPN also has some long term contracts that are huge money losers they have to honor for the next 3 - 6 years. ESPN is losing so much money Disney just can't afford to keep carrying them.
When your cash cow drops 8% on top of everything else... Not good...

 

I don't see how it's a bad thread title. It's a $200 million dollar hit to the NFL, either through the networks and/or eventually to the teams through lost viewership, bargaining position with networks, brand hit, lost merchandise sales, lost ticket sales, etc.

If 44% of fans stop watching, that will be a huge hit. Well beyond $200 million. And it will mean empty stands on TV, dwindling ratings, and the TV corporations using it as leverage to reduce their NFL expenses. More thursday night NFL and less prime time.

Who wants to pay $50 just to park in the lot, not to mention overpriced food, booze, tickets, and merchandise. ..all for the privilege of having multimillionaires protest the country you love, or may have fought to defend.

 

Appreciate you pointing out the obvious Inomaha. You pretty much nailed it. A
loss of interest is pretty obvious, semantics aside. High School football games are my favorite outlet these days. Football is a religion here in W PA so not watching our Steelers is tough but we have to draw the line somewhere. Franco Harris was interviewed a few weeks back and he stated that Mean Joe and Lambert would have never allowed that (anthem protest)on their teams.

 

Any first year economic student realizes it takes years or decades to create brand image and a short time to destroy it. Look at gun companies like Colt, S&W (Clinton revolver lock), etc.

A 45% reduction in NFL viewership could ruin the NFL and make it hard to pressure local cities to build them expensive new stadiums. Go ahead and leave, turn it into a soccer field.

 

Oh God, please not soccer, I think there's been more people die from shear boredom while watching soccer than any other sport.

 

**** the NFL

 

Home of the Free BECAUSE of the brave!

Nowhere in that sentence did I see NFL, football or media mentioned. Many in this country need to get their priorities straight.

 

its not just the kaepernick thing id imagine, but the NFL has been pushing a lot of leftist views, multiple "athletes" getting political and acting damn near blm/antifa, with one of the few sports channels out there taking a hard left as well is making it hard for people to get into it.. when the NFL realizes that the vast majority of its viewers are white guys and in large portion "rural" types, theyd do well to not alienate them.. another contributing factor is people are giving up television subscriptions by the millions, with less and less people today actually having television service, who's watching the games?... professional sports for me went out the window the same time television did

either way, these *******s brought it on themselves, let them suffer for it

 

I haven't watched a game (besides the super bowl which is more a social event) since this anthem crap started.

I want my music to be music, my movies be movies, sports to be sports, and politics to be politics. I don't want them blended and it usually turns me off regardless of my opinion agreement/disagreement.

It's like getting stock advice from the babysitter.

 

In my opinion this political crap needs to stay out of all forms of entertainment and awards shows. In case they forgot we watch their **** to get away. What's the difference if it's in our face again. Turn that **** off too

 

AMEN!



The entertainment industry has decided that they need to pound their hard-left propaganda at us 24/7. Apparently, they refuse to believe that most Americans are NOT on board with becoming socialist slaves. It's time we let them know in no uncertain terms that this is America, not Amerika. The NFL boycott is a great first step because it's hard for most hard-core fans to do.

We hit them in the pocketbook hard enough and often enough, the pendulum will be forced to swing, because no matter what they say, they are definitely capitalists in the end!:thumb:

 

I won't watch it, but to be honest, I lost interest long ago when it became such a thugfest.

 

Yes, because a nearly bulletproof business that just put two franchises in the countries 2nd largest tv market is going to lose money when the time comes to renegotiate with the networks.

Btw, why do "booo NFL" threads outnumber "boooo NBA" threads here by about 1,000,000 to one? I mean you do realize that not only do NFL fans vote conservative at a far higher rate than NBA fans, but the more the NFL faulters the larger a place the ghetto-ass NBA will take in our culture, right? ANd that most of this lefty political bs comes from the people covering the sport rather than the sport itself? No, of course you don't. Shame on me for expecting better of people that consider shooting at cardboard targets and athletic endeavor.

 

I'm sure there's a point in there. I'm not sure who it's aimed at. If you feel the NFL won't be impacted by up to a 45% reduction in fans, well I don't know what to say.

NBA? It's an NFL thread.

The last line makes no sense, so it must be a weak attempt at an insult.

This stuff is filtering down to high school and below. And the general consensous is people are sick of it. Which is why they boo the high school teams that do it here and flood the school admin office with complaints.

I'd pull my kid out of sports if they felt this was the place to make political protests, because it's a stupid game that's less important then the principles of the country. I'm not paying for my kid to do it.

The same with the NFL, if they want to protest they have their right to protest. I'm not paying for their platform. I actually stopped watching the NFL because the games are typically low scoring junk, with yards gained between the 20s and dominated in scoring by kickers. The latest crap doesn't make me want to start watching.

I haven't watched and NBA game in 20 years because they walk and don't play defense anymore. If they got political that would give me one more reason not to care.

 

The NFL is losing far more more than they admit right now. Opening Sunday my buddy and I flipping back on forth between games were shocked that those stadiums only looked 2/3 full. That is amazing for opening day and then think of all the $8 beers they aren't selling not to mention food and souviners.

Add onto that people like me that won't spend a penny on merchandise anymore. No new hat for me or tee shirts for the kids this year. Those jerseys you see grown men walking around in with someone else's name on their back, bet you sales of those have slowed a lot too. Those things run up around $300 apiece last I looked a few years ago.

It is a sinking ship.

 

I simply don't watch them anymore. Dis you know this kneeling crap has trickled all the way down to the PeeWee football league? Pathetic. If that were my kid I'd snatch him off the team so fast his head would spin, not to mention what comes afterward..

 

I catch a lot of hell for saying it but I think the national anthem has no place at a sporting event.

For the record I don't like Kapernic and most other half retarded celebrities.

BUT......

I do support anyone who kneels during the anthem as protest because they are showing a form of peaceful non-disruptive protesting which generates WAY MORE attention then rioting does. ANTIFA and BLM should learn from these idiot sports "Stars".

The ability to protest and speak your mind (along with legal gun ownership) is what makes The USA a better country than most others.

 

I agree too. But they should realize they may need to live with the backlash from people that don't agree with their opinion.

The thing that bothers me the most is how they're saying teams won't hire Kapernic because of this issue. That's not true as evidenced by players who are still doing it. Kapernic isn't an NFL quarterback because NFL football is highly competitive with thousands and thousands of similarly skilled players vying for hundreds of spots.

He tarnished his brand with his actions, but much more importantly his play is not spectacular anymore. So if you have a choice between him and one of the hundreds of other QBs with similar talent that are able to be the non-playing backup or second backup, you pick the guy that contributes the most. His off the field stuff makes it hard to pick him over someone with similar talent without the baggage.

If he was better, he'd be playing, regardless of political or personal issues. But he has to be a better then the other stuff in order to pull ahead and be given a chance. If other players can knock out their wifes/girlfriends, shoot people, and sit through anthems, we know they'd take Kapernic if he could play better. The NFL teams cut plenty of QBs every year with better physical and mental skills who also have better character.

 

yup, people are sick of the putting politics into a sport. this is what they get for allowing this nonsense. you are part of a team. your personal preferences do not matter.

 

I think youth participation is part of it too....kids just aren't playing as much which leads to less overall fan enthusiasm...whether you want to blame concussion worries, demographic shifts or whatever. I don't think the NFL is every going to go away but I think it definitely has peaked in popularity.

I'm mainly an NBA and MMA sports fan as far as caring who wins/loses. I like college football more than the NFL but I do keep up with the NFL because i play fantasy football with friends/coworkers.

 

Good.
Maybe they should pay those players half of what they currently earn too.

 

I could care less about the NFL. Although not a part of this thread, I haven't watched the NBA in years. I haven't watched the MLB either.

Seems to me, I saw reports that when the MLB went on strike, the league took a major hit in revenue. Yeah, I know that was years back. So back to the NFL.

I'll watch the Super Bowl if the Vikings make it there. I'm not holding my breath though. But I don't spend my time watching a bunch of overpaid children throwing tantrums to play a silly game.

They make millions. They make millions because the NFL makes millions and it trickles down. The players can screw up the very cash cow they use to make money. Great! Let's see how they do making a 100k or so a year. yeah, some of them have banked a lot money but more than a few have squandered that payout and have not real cash left.

I agree with the poster that says they are simply entertainers. I'll watch hockey game once in a while. Those are entertaining. Rugby is another one I watch once in a while. Brutal sport- I still don't understand the rules of that game though and it confuses me.

 

National Felon League, not worth taking time from other good activities with family.

 

 

At least they don't take a knee ! James Harrison has said it will not be tolerated. Harrison is a big 2A supporter and makes regular appearances at one of the better LGS in our area. Loves his Barret 50 BMG.

 

Screw 'em. They are not getting a dime of my money or a second of my time. The spoiled ass players need a reset as do the clowns running major league sports. College needs it to but if major league gets slapped it will trickle down.

 

Truth be known I haven't watched pro football since the players strike way back when. I did watch the replacements play and it was a hoot, because they were playing because they wanted to play desperately and they weren't polished (kind of like college ball). When the strikers began to cross the line I stopped watching. Until that point, I was a football junkie..

Too many of the players today are nothing more than rich thugs an criminals..