When it comes to Communist the color of their skin is Irrelevant IMHO all of them should be hung , put up against a wall and executed or bring back the Guillotine and keep her busy!

 

The United States were founded by white men of European descent. Yes, they opened their arms to others, invited in diverse cultures, and tolerated the religious differences they brought with them, but our culture, language, law, and outlook are distinctively "white."

Some immigrants ts from other cultures, in appreciation for the opportunity afforded them here, and in desirous assimilation, have chosen to adopt our way if life. Others have not. The ones who have not often reject our culture as "white."

This presents, of course, quite a dilemma. These people are adversarial to the culture that welcomed them with open arms, yet we maintain a commitment to keep doing so. How do we, as a culture, embrace into our home those who have no desire to abide by our way if life, or to even seek to destroy our way of life? This question is made all the more urgent by the self-evident superiority of Western civilization.

Those who embraced our culture did so because it was better. They came here for a better life, and adopted the outlook and culture that affords that better life. No animosity is forthcoming. Yet for those who resent our culture, it is perfectly accurate to call it "white" culture, despite being the culture of many races and ethnicities, because it derives from the western tradition. So when we exige upon immigrants and sourjourners to our fair shores that they be compatible, at the very least, with our culture because it is so very superior (which, presumably, is why they are here), those who resent it can easily characterize it as a "white" culture claiming superiority, hence false claims of "white supremacy" and racism.

 

That's some great perspective HD. I never thought of our culture in that light before and you are right. We hear a constant drum beat of hatred of our culture, our history. If that's so true, why is the world beating on our door wanting in from all races and cultures?

Great points:thumb:

 

I want to take your post seriously and have some insight to offer, but honestly it just reads like another "white victim" thread.

Why is this so important to you?

 

Well...for one it's a fascinating subject. I have no idea how you have come to the conclusion it's "another white victim thread"

I wanted to attempt to understand why there is this massive racial divide. The root of it, the philosophies behind it etc.

As HD said above, we have many cultures and races dying to get here and seek a better life because our culture is so desirable and most embrace our culture.

If you have insights....please share them

 

I see little racism nowadays in the U.S. unless your talking reverse racism.

Notice that Asians don't run around blaming other races for anything, they simply go do. The Japanese were forced into camps during WW2 and you don't see them attempting to beat that dead horse deader. Asians also don't play victim and I was there for the Rodney King riots during which they grabbed guns and did as necessary; same thing I was doing as the young blacks saw it as a free for all.


I.Q. by race has scientific study behind it. Low IQ, play the victim and thanks to the Dems, give free crap to keep them aborted, drugged, and on the hood plantation. Sadly so many don't realize how they've been screwed. As our country goes broke and removes the free crap, well...

 

I see little racism nowadays in the U.S. unless your talking reverse racism.

Notice that Asians don't run around blaming other races for anything, they simply go do. The Japanese were forced into camps during WW2 and you don't see them attempting to beat that dead horse deader. Asians also don't play victim and I was there for the Rodney King riots during which they grabbed guns and did as necessary; same thing I was doing as the young blacks saw it as a free for all.

I've asked that question several times. The answer (what I've been told) the difference is 400 years of forced slavery and they didn't ask to be brought here but they were in chains.

 

Obama and the current leaders of the black community threw race relations back to the 60s with their blame ****** and play the victim crap. Attitudes that were encouraged as the more the black community played the victim the more free stuff they got. Their leaders only interest is in remaining the leaders and they will happily throw the entire community under the bus to do so.

Though Obama was simply doing the bidding of his master (Soros) in helping to bring about Soros's dream of a new world order where America is no longer a shining example of freedom. Almost all of the current leaders of the black community are happily filling the role of "house slave" currying the favor of their white masters to enjoy the better life of such over the brutal conditions of a "field slave".

The black community was rising in America prior to LBJ's welfare legislation (look up his famous quote on it). Prior to that black leaders were urging the black community to work twice as hard as a white to get accepted. In many parts of the country blacks had almost zero unemployment as businesses would hire a (hardworking) black versus a white who felt entitled to the job and put forth less effort.

Personally I think it's about attitude more then color and have no problem with a person of any color who assimilates into the values/ethics of America. At which point they are just as "white" as me.

 

Very true....

 

My conclusion; there simply is no such thing as "black view" or "white view".

You hit the nail on the head. I came to the same conclusion myself. People are going to have their own opinions and beliefs no matter what race they are. Despite what the media wants you to believe.

 

True...I do see an imbalance that's been in the black community for years and that's the 90% plus that vote for liberal democrats.

Some say that figure has gone down to 80% or lower. The white community is pretty evenly split between left/right thinkers with a very small minority in the middle aka: swing voters.

IMHO when blacks starting owning more homes, owning more businesses, being invested in a community they will abandon the leftist plantation in droves. It's slowly happening.

 

Just tossing some more fuel on the fire. Have you ever noticed that the term "African American" separates themselves from Americans? Why is that? Then you have another group that consider themselves 'black'. I've noticed that the former just can't seem to let slavery and racism go, to them everything is based on skin color while the latter race seems to take a back seat to other problems.

 

Seems pretty simple.

https://youtu.be/RRteokw7m80

 

If you are incliined to reading more on this issue, I would highly recommend Dr. Thomas Sowell.
Black Rednecks and White Liberals is excellent
Bottom line nothing has done more to destory blacks than white liberals and their paternalism.
There are, as a general matter, no black nuclear families with a bastard rate of at least 75%

 

The break down of the black family and lack of responsible parenting is causing a black crime wave that is hurting the nation. Sad thing is whites are starting to follow suit. I feel for the black citizens that are put into the same group as these criminal thugs. We need responsible black leadership rather than the likes of Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson. As the bumper sticker says, "Maybe we should have picked our own cotton".

The Liberal program is to make all of Black America dependent on handouts. Their situation today is far worse than being a slave. I want to see Black America rise up and be all they can be instead of being single mothers and sperm donors.

 

I'd suggest reading Taleeb Starkes books on the subject of the black mindset:

https://www.amazon.com/Taleeb-Starkes/e/B00BRVNX4G/ref=dp_byline_cont_book_1

The Un-Civil War: BLACKS vs ******S: Confronting the Subculture Within the African-American Community Paperback – May 4, 2013

fascinating read from the black mans perspective....

I tend not to care about black folks, anymore than i care about other races...

i'm all out of ****s to give...

to me, you're on a 4x6 index card with little stickers, no matter the color of your skin:

green = like minded/little threat

yellow = jury is out, to be determined..

red = threat, period.

simple grid square perspective....

ps..i forgot about this most awesome post: http://thezman.com/wordpress/?p=8635 All Blacked Out..

"Black America does not have a race problem. It ain’t ******* robbing, looting and killing in the ghetto. They don’t have a cop problem. The cops shoot fewer black offenders than white offenders. They don’t have a gun problem either. Black America has a black guy problem. They have far too many black guys robbing, looting and killing, almost always doing so at the expense of blacks. They won’t let me fix that problem, so stop demanding I feel bad about it. I’m done. I’m all blacked out."

well worth the read..

 

Certain groups - all liberal - follow the "Follow your heart, do what you want" bull**** instead of going out and earning a living.

I talked to a guy today. He was a driver. He said he "really" had a business and the driving was his side business. We told him he would make a lot more money sticking to being a driver instead of chasing after $$ in self-employment schemes. He didn't listen. He even tried to tell me some sort of bull**** about someone was going to give his dad a huge loan, and 100 vending machines, if he "signed a contract". I told him no one gives up a good vending route.

Point being it was more important to him to "Be a businessman" than it was to make a living. He will probably get in trouble with sales tax, IRS, etc. and have to be "bailed out".

Then we have the whole culture of cheapening sex, oh, it's the third date, girl, you BETTER give him some... and then when the inevitable pregnancy it's just the third baby by the third father.

I remember reading a very sad obituary one day. A man had died, and it listed his wife (same last name) and children (5, each of them had a different last name) as his survivors. Think about it - five different fathers - and those are just the ones who got her pregnant. I am certain that life insurance money was gone in a month.

So, you have a culture that values a flashy title over hard work, assuming someone's even working. You have a culture (I am talking mainly liberal, although you will have some black overlap) that cheapens sex and says it is OK to chase after anyone with a "spark". Then you have a lack of personal responsibility. People just don't feel like anything is their fault.

A perfect example today, I had a driver pick us up half an hour late. She got out and was texting (not allowed to do that) as I brought him out, and then after I put him in the car. She kept texting so long my husband asked where she was. I told him. He started yelling and only THEN did she put the phone down. She got in and had Starbucks sitting in the cup holder, with a Starbucks treat bag as well. Easy to see why she was half an hour late, texting and buying herself Starbucks. My husband asked her why she was late and she made up some BS excuse about being on the other side of town when she got the trip. THEN she took the absolute slowest route possible to get to work, driving about 40 mph on a freeway. My husband complained again about being late, when we got there, and she blamed "dispatch". No personal responsibility. I would have called in on her but they are evaluated frequently based on their "on time performance" so I don't need to "get" her, she "got" herself.

Then you have the culture. Have you ever heard those "black" morning shows? Talk about hate speech! But they are black, so all their hatred is "funny". They even make a little "boing" noise at the punchline to let you know you are supposed to laugh. It is awful and divisive. If a white person was talking like that the FCC would take them off the air. But they're just "expressing their culture". They attack anyone with conservative values while glorifying ignorance and liberalism.

I am not surprised a lot of them are confused, and not doing well in life, with that to teach them.

 

Let me put it in a nutshell for you.

The reason there is a divide is because there are a lot of stupid people out there that would rather listen to a race pimp than take responsibility for their own actions and faults.

 

I forgot to mention, kids trying to better themselves are literally beaten by their peers for "trying to act white". Apparently only white people are allowed to educate themselves. My husband was almost attacked on a couple of occasions (he grew up in a really bad neighborhood) growing up.

 

I think that's huge issue in the black community, negative peer pressure. Anything that would indicate effort, hard work, study, dependable is seen as "selling out".

 

Agreed. They don't seem to have been taught to learn a skill or trade that will get them a good job.

Most of my paratransit drivers utterly hate their jobs. But it is the only job they can do, with "only" a high school diploma. Shuttle crippled people around and carry groceries.

I love them, but they don't love us, it is a very physical job and many of them have some meat that makes it more difficult to do the job - but that's a topic for a whole other thread.

 

One of the reasons I reject the idea of "white privilege" is because it's excused based, a platform based on a loser mentality that Johnny won the race because he cheated with advantages.

Make no mistake some people have certain privileges that other don't including myself. But this whole idea goes against the very spirit of the American "can do" fighting drive that built this nation.

No where in human history is attention brought on the person who claims they could have made something of themselves but XYZ held them back. Our great history is filled with stories of over-coming and people who fought against all odds defeated disease, the great depression, built our highway system, defeated Hitler, built 100 story buildings, changed rivers, tamed the wilderness, built the high-tech world, created the internet and on and on.

People who throw it the towel and claims it's too hard and the other kids are mean to them never accomplish much other than becoming a full-time complainer.

There is no more of a powerful force in the world than a determined man with a dream who refuses to lose.

 

I think it is more nuanced than a cultural pyramid scheme.

 

During my working career, I have worked with many people that were Black and or Hispanic. Men and women. As well as working in their neighborhoods and inside of their homes. Most people work together and exhibit mutual respect and kindness overall during normal social interactions. It seems to me that the left wing policies and the media keep racial divisions stirred up and agitated, so that they have a breaking news story to tell on the evening news and to persuade people of other than white ethnicity that they need the socialist left to take care of them. To protect them from the evils of our society. If we could minimize the constant drumbeat of racial politics and division, we would all get along better and embrace just being Americans! And be happy for the opportunities that we have here that don't exist in the majority of the world. We should not forget the sacrifices that continue to take place from Americans of all ethnicities that join the military and are proud to wear the uniform and protect our great nation. We should all see ourselves as Americans first, before we identify with any stereotypical racial groups.

 

The sorry sad state of Race relations in this country fall solely on one and only one party and its , policies of slavery, segregation , Jim Crow , CPS that protect no one , not even children , Dept of Human Services which are the most inhumane i history , Dept of education that does not teach anything but the Joys of Global Communism and Democratic Socialism , transgender bathrooms and genocide and that party would be the LIBTARD DNC! I DGAF anymore about those who willingly chose to believe in the tooth fairy , they are NOT my countrymen! S/FI!

 

I am of the mind that the racial divide is vastly overblown and overstated. It is not a pandemic issue. America is not a racist nation.
I live in white Montana and Blacks are coming here in droves to get away from the ghetto mentality, we work with all people and begrudge none, that is willing to do the work, we don't give a crap what color. Jokes and jesting aside.
I truly believe that racism is a metropolitan Liberal problem.

 

Didn’t the left spin up the entire “cultural appropriation” thing? How about they get to work and start shaming all the people who culturally appropriate black culture by being non-black and supporting rap?
Bad white privileged kid, rap is a black thing!

Whites feel shamed and stop supporting it.
White finances stop supporting it.
Rap dissolves back into the black culture and eventually reverts to its less violent/criminal rots of street music.

Everyone wins.

 

Jews and Asians have the highest average I.Q.s
No big surprise
Hope Harvard loses the lawsuit for discriminating against Asians.

 

You know, as a white guy, I feel no resentment at all that Asians and Jews have higher IQs. Good for them. I learn more from people smarter than me than those dumber than me.

What gets my goat is the ppl who were never taught to speak proper English and absolutely have butchered the language and are to the point I can't understand anything they say.

It's by design. Just another way of rejecting white man's culture.

In order to effectively maintain identity and heritage while opening up further opportunities for students, educators should utilize a contrastive approach, teaching a respect for Ebonics alongside Standard English in the classroom.

To condemn Ebonics as a perversion of Standard English is to criticize an essential component of Black tradition and selfhood.

"Selfhood" :upsidedown:

Because of the importance of maintaining Ebonics as a marker of culture and identity, it is imperative that the dialect is acknowledged as more than just a perversion of Standard English.

https://www.uloop.com/news/view.php/16228/A-Brief-Look-at-Ebonics-in-the-Classroom

 

What gets my goat is the ppl who were never taught to speak proper English and absolutely have butchered the language and are to the point I can't understand anything they say.

 

I don't think there is some individual animosity between a typical black person and a typical white person. I don't think there is some personal hate there. What is statistically proven to be a big difference between the two is politics. Black people consistently survey as wanting more government, more services, more gun control, more immigration. This is backed up by their voting pattern.

When the majority of my generation and the generations after me, all races have similar ideology, then they this so-called racial divide will be solved in the United Socialist States of America.

Until then there will also be a big political divide, and it will not change. Back in the 80's fewer blacks voted for Reagan's reelection, we saw the same thing play out for Trump and the GOP. Economy improves some, and fewer vote GOP. This will never change as the Marxists will continue to control the education and media

 

Yesterday I was loading my husband into a wheelchair cab. A black guy down the street came out of the house (I think the "backup beep" alerted him) and was watching us. He was dressed like a thug, in Saints gear, which means he is from New Orleans and we have had a lot of trouble with them since Katrina.

Anyway, I'm watching him, he's watching us. Then he waves at me, I wave back, and he goes back in the house. A lot of them "present" as thugs but are not. My street is about half black, half Mexican.

My favorite cab driver is Mexican, actually. A really nice, hardworking guy.

Ohio, my husband was truly nearly beat to a pulp on a couple of occasions, for "trying to act white". He had a pretty protective older brother so they didn't. It didn't stop him from striving, it simply stopped him from doing it in public. Now he is a business owner and they are all on welfare, so he "won". But pretty scary for him.

I think that is one reason he went to college well away from Houston.

I actually dropped out of high school to marry him (long story) and he was on my back about getting my GED until I did get it. I did very well. Then he encouraged me to go to college so I did that. Got a 3.2. Majored in business (came in handy with a small business) and Accounting (good for lots of job offers).

My whole life I was told I was brain damaged and couldn't measure up to the exalted "normal" standard. It was very discouraging. My husband was one of the first people to say I could. His own experiences made him a very good cheerleader.

Back in the day.

 

I've noticed that race relations seem to be just fine as far as day to day interactions between races at work, almost better than they ever have been. BUT, the stupid media and the low info voters on BOTH sides, along with folks that don't work on both sides, seem to be the ones that race is a huge issue and think or are told that it is bad. The media is the huge pusher of everything bad in our country right now.