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The Pure-Bio Sense Hand Sanitizer is supposed to protect hands from bacteria, virus, etc for 24 hours plus, even after washing with soap and water up to 10 times. Anyone used it? It cost $10.00 per small spray bottle on the Jim Bakker website or $100.00 for 13 bottles. Amazon has the same for up to $17.00 per bottle. Plus on Jim Bakker's site, you also get a bottle of Potassium Iodide free. My question to all of you in the know: Would YOU buy this product and would YOU use the Potassium Iodide? My ordering these products will depend on what you all say about them because I don't have a clue.:confused:
 

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My question to all of you in the know: Would YOU buy this product and would YOU use the Potassium Iodide?
Nope

Kills 99.9% of germs... First of all, I don't believe the product kills everything it claims to solely on contact, if it did, it wouldn't be the best thing to have sitting on your skin and those of us in the public health and medical fields would be using that to sterilize our equipment instead of autoclaves.

There are hundreds of thousands of different bacteria, most are relatively harmless, most of those also happen to be relatively easy to kill and make up that 99.9% percent of germs. The other 0.1% are what will cause your major illnesses and nothing except strong chemicals, fire, steam under pressure or hardcore antibiotics will kill them.

I'd save your money, if you want a hand sanitizer, get purell or something that acts as a great rinsing agent and can double as a fire-starting aid.

As far as the KI, I wouldn't use it. There are enough natural sources of Iodine that it doesn't concern me.
 

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I can get my hands clean and sanitized with soap and water, if that is not available as on a hike sometime I always carry anti-bacterial wet wipe to clean up with a hell of a lot cheaper.
 

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The Pure-Bio Sense Hand Sanitizer is supposed to protect hands from bacteria, virus, etc for 24 hours plus, even after washing with soap and water up to 10 times. Anyone used it? It cost $10.00 per small spray bottle on the Jim Bakker website or $100.00 for 13 bottles. Amazon has the same for up to $17.00 per bottle. Plus on Jim Bakker's site, you also get a bottle of Potassium Iodide free. My question to all of you in the know: Would YOU buy this product and would YOU use the Potassium Iodide? My ordering these products will depend on what you all say about them because I don't have a clue.:confused:
Sanitizer is fine and all. I have nothing against it. What I have a problem with is replacing washing with sanitizer. Even if it kills 99.9% of surface bacteria and viruses, it sell leaves the grime and crud. Now remember this is SURFACE bacteria.. if you had a piece of crap on your hand or a booger, it will only sanitize the top of that stuff. Not what is inside. Same with smaller grime and crud under your nails for example. Still packed with bacteria and possible viruses.

So sanitizer is good for a quick wipe-down. But give me soap any-day.

For the Potassium Iodide... I wouldn't use it without a nuclear threat AND some instruction on how to use it properly.
 

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No. And no.

There is currently no radiological emergency and swallowing KI on speculation is BAD for you. If a nuclear reactor goes up KI might be useful until you get out of the immediate area. Since I don't live next door to the Fukashima plant, I'm not worried.

This "Pure-Bio" stuff will not keep hands sterile or anything of the sort. It may kill off the germs on the surface of your hands but as soon as you grab something you're contaminated again. And as long as you don't cut yourself, your hands do not need to be "protected" from bacteria or viruses at all. And some bacteria and viruses are GOOD for your skin. Any way you look at the "protection" claim, it is bunk.

If you were to wash your hands with soap and water 10 times a day, not only would you take off any possible coating from the stuff, you'd take off the outer layer of epidermis that any coating would lay upon. (Nurses hate it when this happens.)
 

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They have done research and shown that because of sanitizer gels and antibacterial soap, the average american population has a decreased immunity to common "bugs". Use soap and water, eat with dirty hands, eat stuff out of the couch and off the floor......

Active immunity is built through exposure...

When I first started nursing I stayed sick off and on for 2 years with some sort of bug picked up at the hospital. Now I rarely get sick. I believe my immune system has been strengthened to the point that it would attack a small water buffalo, and come out victorious.

If you get a common bug and it isn't preventing you from working, going to school, or functioning.... ride it out! It will serve you better in the long run.
 

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I wipe my hands on my pants.

Seriously, why is everyone so anti germ anymore? People are so sickly nowadays because their bodies immune system is never exposed to these bugs. Eat off the kitchen floor, and laugh away the next flu season ;) I used to get sick something fierce once a year, then I took a job flying air ambulance, and the exposure to all the sick people and new places hit me hard for a few weeks, but the following 4 years, I never got sick once. Not even a cold...
 

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In a pinch (no water available) you could always rub them in dirt and urinate on your hands to rinse them off in a sterile fashion. Survival is dirty business and germs are a part of our life. I am more concerned about sterilizing my water supply than what I get on my hands.
 

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Stay away from almost everything anti bacterial, flu shots, cold medicines, ect...There is an old saying "if it doesn't kill you, it makes you stronger." I have only taken one flu shot ever in my life and the funny thing is that it is also the only time I have ever had the flu, my girlfriend has gotten flu shots, takes medicines, uses anti bacterial this and that and is sick 5 times or so a year. After her watching me for many years she decided to do it the good old fashioned way and skip the hyped up immunity killers, now after the first year of building her immune system back up, she only took ill one the second, and zero the third.
 

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Kills 99.9% of germs... First of all, I don't believe the product kills everything it claims to solely on contact, if it did, it wouldn't be the best thing to have sitting on your skin and those of us in the public health and medical fields would be using that to sterilize our equipment instead of autoclaves.
I use Matacide at work.

I'd save your money, if you want a hand sanitizer, get purell or something that acts as a great rinsing agent and can double as a fire-starting aid.
Purell that is green, meaning it has Aloe Vera added to it, doesn't work well. Straight, clear Purell is a great firestarting aid as is a tube of Vaseline Intensive Lip Therapy. Good firestarter and keeps your lips from cracking in cold and/or windy conditions which keeps bacteria out of your lips! A two-for.

Bad thing about clear Purell is, it doesn't have the Aloe Vera in it which they started including because repeated scrubbings with alcohol-based hand sanitizers can suck the moisture out of the skin and cause it to crack. If you have cracked skin, more bacteria can enter. So, as far as survival kits are concerned, I would use straight Purell to get the two-for out of it but for daily use I would use the green Purell with Aloe in it to leave a protective coating on my hands so they don't crack. When they do crack, I have to resort to Zim's Crack Cream, funny name and stinks like sin, but it works great.
 

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Stay away from almost everything anti bacterial, flu shots, cold medicines, ect...There is an old saying "if it doesn't kill you, it makes you stronger." I have only taken one flu shot ever in my life and the funny thing is that it is also the only time I have ever had the flu, my girlfriend has gotten flu shots, takes medicines, uses anti bacterial this and that and is sick 5 times or so a year.
If they tell you that you have "mild flu-like symptoms" after your shot, it's because you have a mild case of the flu. It's so stupid and everyone with a piece of paper on the wall will tell me I'm the stupid party for saying that...but it is true. I know M.D.s who have said they would never get another flu shot because after they got it, it took them days to get over the hammered feeling.

I think people can over-do your point of view to the point of having a reverse type of OCD, a phobia of helpful things. Not that you do, but some people will debate going to the hospital when they have a finger hanging off, you know what I mean? "Debby, can't we just handle this with some duct tape and be done with it?" :D:
 

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Thank you all so much for the info! I will not be ordering that hand sanitizer. But, what is this about Vaseline being a good fire starter? I've never heard that before! I love this board. Everyone is so helpful and kind.
 

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Thank you all so much for the info! I will not be ordering that hand sanitizer. But, what is this about Vaseline being a good fire starter? I've never heard that before! I love this board. Everyone is so helpful and kind.
Yep take some cottonballs and roll them around in petroleum jelly, strike 1-3 times with a flint and you now have instant fire...try it and see.
 

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I like the little tubes of Vaseline Intensive Lip Therapy. You tear a cottonball apart or a similar sized piece of #0000 Steel Wool (available in the paint section at Wal-Mart, you get a loaf of bread size package for a couple/three bucks). Squirt a noodle of Vaseline a couple/three inches long and strike it with a ferrocerium rod and you will have a nice, hot little fire.
 

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If they tell you that you have "mild flu-like symptoms" after your shot, it's because you have a mild case of the flu. It's so stupid and everyone with a piece of paper on the wall will tell me I'm the stupid party for saying that...but it is true. I know M.D.s who have said they would never get another flu shot because after they got it, it took them days to get over the hammered feeling.

I think people can over-do your point of view to the point of having a reverse type of OCD, a phobia of helpful things. Not that you do, but some people will debate going to the hospital when they have a finger hanging off, you know what I mean? "Debby, can't we just handle this with some duct tape and be done with it?" :D:
I am strictly referring to unnecessary things, and in no way talking about duct tape for partial amputations and such, same goes for dentistry, or potentially life threatening illness. There are however things like flu shots, cold medicines and soaps that decrease your bodies ability to do what god intended so to speak, and im merely referring to those things, for colds I just tend to eat some jalepeno's with eggs for breakfast and throughout the day, it works ten times better than anything over the counter. There are literally hundreds of things you can consume that works better than medicines and also puts money in the hands of hard working americans and not in the pockets of fatcat pharmaceutical companies that tend to give you a drug for one thing that has 10 other negative side effects which can in turn make you need another medicine with 10 more side effects. No REVERSE OCD HERE, just not into becoming reliant on something to fix what don't need fixing.
 

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I am strictly referring to unnecessary things, and in no way talking about duct tape for partial amputations and such, same goes for dentistry, or potentially life threatening illness.
I know, that's why I said, "not that you do." :cool:

There are however things like flu shots, cold medicines and soaps that decrease your bodies ability to do what god intended so to speak, and im merely referring to those things, for colds I just tend to eat some jalepeno's with eggs for breakfast and throughout the day, it works ten times better than anything over the counter.
I don't think the soaps and sanitizers hurt at all. There is MRSA out there now and who knows what else around the corner and since so many people are demonstrably filthy, I think it is a good idea to wash your hands well after touching doorknobs and stuff now. Especially public restrooms and stuff. Herpes is a hell of a lot bigger than most people think and those people grab door knobs and handle things. Don't put a whole lot of faith in doctors who say it's not communicable from people using restrooms because they tell their patients to wash their hands thoroughly after using the restroom before touching their face, especially around the eyes. I'm betting that they didn't have good judgment to avoid herpes in the first place, they really don't give a damn if someone gets it from them using a restroom. Just me, I have little faith in people.

As for eggs and peppers, I keep the hot sauce around and the Cayenne, too. Same reason, make the nose run, get it out! Lunch comes around, put the black pepper to Campbell's soup, make the nose run, get it out! :D:

There are literally hundreds of things you can consume that works better than medicines and also puts money in the hands of hard working americans and not in the pockets of fatcat pharmaceutical companies that tend to give you a drug for one thing that has 10 other negative side effects which can in turn make you need another medicine with 10 more side effects. No REVERSE OCD HERE, just not into becoming reliant on something to fix what don't need fixing.
Germs keep a roof over my head. :cool:

That having been said, you are correct. All you have to do is watch regular television and you will see the dynamic. They will advertise one drug and list the side effects and then the next commercial will be a drug that addresses the side effects/issues of the first drug.
 
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