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Has anyone else noticed that your child’s school is charging you more and more every year? When I went to public school growing up my parents didn't have to pay anything. In my opinion it is getting out of control. Public schools are funded by state tax dollars not to mention they also get government money for this and that. Last year they passed a vote to increase sales tax by 1% and give it to the school. The school said over a five year period that they would profit 250 million dollars. At the beginning of the school year we get a list. Toilet paper, Kleenex, paper towels, copy paper, lined paper, folders, binders, scissors, rulers, glue sticks, construction paper, sanitation wipes, markers, crayons, pencils, and pencil sharpeners. I am sure I missed something. We pay for the school lunches. We pay for the field trips. I get a list at least once a week on a project that they school is doing were I am required to buy something or send in some money. We all pay it because we want what is best for our kids. A lot of people complain about the government mandating that we buy health care and some people complain about being forced to by car insurance. We are required to send our kids to school or Uncle Sam will come and lock us up. I just think because this involves kids that this slips under the radar. But at the rate it is going now I don't think it will be long before we will be paying the state tax for the public school and paying all the bills for the school also. This all started really nonchalant like "O by the way here is a list you have to buy all this stuff" and ever since then every year it seems like they are packing on more and more things we have to buy. Maybe I am over exaggerating? It just seems like schools got by just fine when I was a kid when we didn't have to buy anything.:confused:
 

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I went to private school in Chicago, my parents sent 6 kids through 12 years of school without asking anything (vouchers, etc.) from the gov.
 

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from another forum, with permission:


Grim reality...elementary school teachers lying socialists.
Fri Aug 05, 2011 9:24 pm



This goes for most public school teachers and a practice shows the mindset.

We get these school lists for kids and dutifully buy the stuff, year after year. It's an amazing amount of stuff and sometimes hard to find. Can't buy anything better than the list to count, and the quantities seem huge.

Well, years ago, I learned to check what my kids had available during parent teacher night. You see it's a lie, that public school, elementary student school supply list and it's socialism. The teachers tell everyone to buy more than needed. They generally pull the stuff and redistribute the items and your child often doesn't get the better pencils and such. The reason they LIE about what is needed for your child is because they know that a lot of parents won't provide the stuff and they LIE to get others to buy stuff, thinking they're taking care of their children but the stuff is being given to the children as the teacher prefers. Minor example, I bought one child licensed NBA and NFL school items one year. He didn't have a single such item in his desk. I pressed the teacher and learned she gave them to another student who loved sports. My son had cheapie yellow pencils with those hard plastic erasers in his desk. I fixed that.

This is done year after year in tens of thousands of public schools across the country...oh, and teachers get a budget to cover art and school supplies that is supposed to cover the shortfalls, instead of lying on the lists.
 

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Luckily for our county, they passed an ordinance that essentially did away with the "lists". Thats right, teachers cannot ask for any of that stuff. A child is expected to bring a pencil and a folder or notebook, thats it. No endless lists of stuff.

But funny though, each time their is a field trip guess what? Yep, it costs money!
 

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The funding is increasingly sucked up by top heavy administrations and wasteful spending. Just like nearly every part of this country with heavy govt involvement. Support the voucher system. Then YOU can put that tax money directly into the school your children attend and not have to pay for it twice.
 

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Public schools = socialism!

Get used to it, austerity measures will continue to rise!

The bankers, mega-corporations and large shareholders will make you pay for their shrinking profit margins...
 

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If you can afford it, private schools.

The public school system in this country is poor at best, and disgraceful in many cases. Political motivations aside, they reward mediocrity, stifle thinking for ones self, and breed idiots and thugs. And to top it all off, the education your child will get, assuming they are self motivated, able to stay away from the distractions, and get a teacher that's not a useless nitwit, is so incredibly sub par for a first world nation it's ridiculous.

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I guess I was lucky that I got to go to a private school. Because of where I grew up in Maine - we did not have a high school, so the town/county/state 9???) paid for us to go to an get room and board at a Private school about 65 miles away.

We did have a choice and could ride on a bus back and forth everyday but who wants their kids driving 140 miles a day in the middle of winter in Maine.
 
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It is going to contunually cost more to give a child a standard education in a world that is growing increasingly complex.

The government will not meet these needs because nobody really cares all that much about education. So parents will foot the bill.
 
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Public schools = socialism!

Get used to it, austerity measures will continue to rise!

The bankers, mega-corporations and large shareholders will make you pay for their shrinking profit margins...
No with socialism you do not need public schools. You just need to educate the child in the job that they will be doing for the rest of their life.
 

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I try to buy the items when they go on sale over the summer, but Im still spending at minimum $60 per child on the binders, folders, notebooks, etc. The start of the school is expensive and then when registration day comes, its nickel and dime time , our school actually tells parents to bring their checkbook for registration. (School sports are now $350 to participate!, cost prohibitive to single income families)

I actually got a bill in the mail over the summer for $85 for a textbook my son forgot to turn in. I thought our taxes paid for this stuff? Luckily we have it and will return it when we go to registration.
 

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I have to restrain myself when people state home school parents who are disgruntled about paying school taxes for a school they don't use should send their kids to FREE public school.

Public school is NOT free. And the education is sub par. Yes, educating the public benefits everyone and so everyone should contribute. But when the school district is allocated several thousand dollars PER STUDENT IN THE DISTRICT in addition to the budget for the school itself.... where's all the 'student allotments' being given to the school for the home school students? We aren't even allowed to take the kids to the school for the MANDATORY achievement tests or have the MANDATORY evaluations done at the school.

While the schools are SUPPOSED to provide any educational materials the child would use if they were IN the school... they do not. The usual response is only if there are extras left overs. Which means not until after the school year is underway and even then not likely. And they won't pass on the old books after they are replaced with new.
 

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When I was in school my parents taxes were enough to pay for my education, but that was back when everyone spoke English and there were no ESL classes, you speaka de english or you no go to de school until you do :thumb:. Glad my kids are out of school, and I really hope my daughter home schools the grandbaby.
 

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No with socialism you do not need public schools. You just need to educate the child in the job that they will be doing for the rest of their life.
I was referring to everybody in the community pays taxes for the common good of educating the children in the community...socialism.

Same with fire, police, roads, etc... socialism.
 

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My wife is a school teacher. With the funding cuts, it's a blessing she even has a job this year. They cut so hard, now that school is 1 week away, they are having to hire almost 250 teachers in her district!

There is huge waste in the school by some, but not all. My wife is a "prepper" and a hard core recycler and isn't above doing some dumpster diving. Each year we spend a couple of hundred $ out of our pockets because she only gets $100.00 for the entire school year to buy classroom supplies, copies, etc. They give her one ream (500 pages) of paper per semester for photocopies - any other paper is purchased - by us.

Teachers have it rough these days, too.
 
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