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Try the german 7.62x51. I would avoid the commercial 308 stuff as its probably too hot. The german surplus is readily available in the range of .40 to .60 a round. I like ammoman and sgammo.
Exact opposite with a PTR. They have commercial barrels chambered in .308 Winchester not 7.62 NATO.

I have shot some NATO surp out of mine, British Radway Green, functions fine had 2 fail to ejects out of 75 rds.

For the cheap I use Silver Bear .308, it is steel cased but it is zinc coated so it won't gum up the flutes.

Stay away from SA ammo as it is tar sealed and if you have an AW serial # you will want to avoid that like the plague. I had some Aussie that gummed up the works on my old one, didn't shoot any through my new one.
 

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I have a ptr91 that shoots .308 ammo.Is there anyone out there shooting one to and what ammo are you shooting out of yours.Iam looking for some cheep stuff to shoot out of it.
I was at the range when they tested the first ptr-91 The Hartford gun club.There are real hard core on quality.They would run out to snag spent rounds and look at them.
I have been inside there factory a few times.Next time i will ask Paublo him self.Yes thats his name the two head guys are from Argentina and i think Venezuela.Mabye try to get a job with them.
 

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Exact opposite with a PTR. They have commercial barrels chambered in .308 Winchester not 7.62 NATO.

I have shot some NATO surp out of mine, British Radway Green, functions fine had 2 fail to ejects out of 75 rds.

For the cheap I use Silver Bear .308, it is steel cased but it is zinc coated so it won't gum up the flutes.

Stay away from SA ammo as it is tar sealed and if you have an AW serial # you will want to avoid that like the plague. I had some Aussie that gummed up the works on my old one, didn't shoot any through my new one.
Unlike the 5.56/223, there is no difference in the chambers for 7.62X51, and the .308 Win. The only difference in the two rounds is in the brass. Military rounds have a thicker web (the bottom third of the case), than do the commercial rounds. This results in less case capacity in the milspecs, so load data for .308 should be revised downward slightly if military cases are being used. Rounds that are intended for use in machine guns are usually considerably hotter than those used in rifles, so be careful when buying surplus.
 

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When I reload 308 for my semi autos I take the book minimum load and subtract a half grain. This seems to function fine in everything including the PTR91 without beating the actions to pieces. In addition it is asaftey margin with the brass issue.
 

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From the ptr web site, they have a list of ammo not to used.
At this time we have identified the following types of ammunition that are known to cause problems in our rifles:

* South African
* Winchester white boxes marked 7.62,
* Venezuela Cavim
* Austrian (Hirtenberger)
* Some lots of German
* British (under powered) will not cycle action
* Indian (Over powered)
 

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From the ptr web site, they have a list of ammo not to used.
At this time we have identified the following types of ammunition that are known to cause problems in our rifles:

* South African
* Winchester white boxes marked 7.62,
* Venezuela Cavim
* Austrian (Hirtenberger)
* Some lots of German
* British (under powered) will not cycle action
* Indian (Over powered)

Austrian and German have been fine, the rest suck imho. I just stick with brown and silver bear. They are the cheapest, and I have had no problems with either...Just make sure you clean the flutes real good as part of your normal cleaning routine.

Radway green has an exceedingly delayed recoil, which is very light for me. I mean, it's great on your shoulder, but not what I'd want if SHTF. Seems like it's slow motion.
 

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Is this clone in the same quality as H&k G3 or Swedish version AK4 ?
I'd have to say so. Actually, given the handguards and match bbl, I like the PTR more so. Given it's built off licensed HK tooling, not sure if we can faithfully call it a clone, in the same way we do a hesse or special weapons piece of garbo.
 

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I'd have to say so. Actually, given the handguards and match bbl, I like the PTR more so. Given it's built off licensed HK tooling, not sure if we can faithfully call it a clone, in the same way we do a hesse or special weapons piece of garbo.
Maybe, but then again it isn't to exact HK specs. The flutes in later ones are not like originally designed...

(Did I just stir a pot?:D::D::D:)
 

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I've run some Lithuanian surplus 7.62x51mm ammo through an M1A and i love it (well, both ammo and rifle). It's far more consistent than Wolf ammo and it's also reloadable.
Link:
http://www.the-armory.com/shopsite_sc/store/html/Lithuanian-308-Battlepack.html
A nice review:
http://weckuptothees.blogspot.com/2008/02/lithuanian-762x51mm-ammunition-range.html


I definitely recommend it if you want to reload, unless you're content with non-reloadable ammo which is fine too.

(Sorry but I don't have any experience with this ammo in a G3 clone though, but I've had nothing but good results with it.)
 
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