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The only action businesses and individuals can take to put pressure on the
Police if they have been affected by the riots is to make and official Police
complaint.
The number and types of complaints are published and they highlight the
effective or otherwise of a particular force compared to others.

I don't think Policing has been effective and they should have asked for assistance
from the Army.
With sufficient numbers, they could block both ends of a street and arrest everyone.
 

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The Police dont need thousands of officers in riot gear forming huge lines to deal with rioters, looters and arsonists, they only need about fiver officers with shotguns, They would clear the streets and stop the rioting in seconds.Lack of political will is the reason why our communities are burning


The only action businesses and individuals can take to put pressure on the
Police if they have been affected by the riots is to make and official Police
complaint.
The number and types of complaints are published and they highlight the
effective or otherwise of a particular force compared to others.

I don't think Policing has been effective and they should have asked for assistance
from the Army.
With sufficient numbers, they could block both ends of a street and arrest everyone.
 

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The Police dont need thousands of officers in riot gear forming huge lines to deal with rioters, looters and arsonists, they only need about fiver officers with shotguns, They would clear the streets and stop the rioting in seconds.Lack of political will is the reason why our communities are burning
What I'm saying though is that people have lost their businesses and for the
Police its business as usual. They aren't accountable unless people make
official complaints. Then maybe just maybe we'll get a no bull**** Chief Constable.
Yes, rioters would be put off by more force but there is no Police will for
that to happen.
 

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Sorry Tib our cops simply dare not react forcibly , as I pointed out in another post for every black rioter there is five with cameras just waiting to supply Human Rights and anti racist campaigners with career ending footage of a cop beating onn an innocent black dude.
 

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Sorry Tib our cops simply dare not react forcibly , as I pointed out in another post for every black rioter there is five with cameras just waiting to supply Human Rights and anti racist campaigners with career ending footage of a cop beating onn an innocent black dude.
Force could be rubber bullets, water cannon is what I'm saying.
With sufficient numbers (Army help), you can encircle a mob and pull them
out for individual arrest.
 

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We need to be able to hit em with baton rounds then lock em up for days without having to do the paperwork straight away which is what pulls the cops off the streets when they make an arrest. They should just nick em all and put em, in a football stadium for days until they can prosecute them all.
 

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We need to be able to hit em with baton rounds then lock em up for days without having to do the paperwork straight away which is what pulls the cops off the streets when they make an arrest. They should just nick em all and put em, in a football stadium for days until they can prosecute them all.
I concur. Get the off the streets charge them with civil disobedience. Lock
em up till they can go to court. It may take several days.

If someone is arrested for drunk and disorderly they are in a cell until they
see the Magistrate. That can be several days especially if they are arrested
before a bank holiday weekend.
 

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The sad thing is, those of us in the UK know that nothing will change, be it conservative or labour they will talk tough on crime then take the easy way out.

(damn US spelling tries to change labour to labor!)

I am old enough to remember to brixton, toxteth, bristol st pauls and a variety of copy cat riots, there is nothing knew happening today.

Indeed I am only surprised it didn't happen sooner and more often.

The usual tack is for the politicians to blame the police for being racist and incompetent, which senior police officers (who are no better than politicians IMHO) will accept, blame the lower ranks then go off for a drink at the masons club.

The constables (not officers, America has officers, we have constables) properly led by middle ranking officers who are interested in enforcing the law, rather than furthering their own career at the expense of the lower ranks could deal with the rioters IN ONE NIGHT, but the political will is not there.

I suppose we only have ourselves to blame, we vote for these numptys.
 

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Members of Parliament should not be allowed to make careers out of politics, they should only be able to sit as MPS for two terms, that way only those with a genuine will to serve the nation would stand.

And anyone who ever voted Labour should be shot as traitors :)
 

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OK so I am a Texan. I really don't know much about your government or police. Don't yall have a national gaurd? Why don't they call in the military in some form if it is too much for the cops? I read on another thread a suggestion to put dye in a water cannon and blast them then the ones that get away would be easily identified and picked up to lock up. This seems good. I understand how the orginal riot occured like the Rodney King stuff here in the states. I'm just having a hard time understanding how it keeps going on and spreading without a government crackdown. At the very least you would think they would jam the cell signals so they could not use twitter & the like to keep it spreading.
 

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OK so I am a Texan. I really don't know much about your government or police. Don't yall have a national gaurd? Why don't they call in the military in some form if it is too much for the cops? I read on another thread a suggestion to put dye in a water cannon and blast them then the ones that get away would be easily identified and picked up to lock up. This seems good. I understand how the orginal riot occured like the Rodney King stuff here in the states. I'm just having a hard time understanding how it keeps going on and spreading without a government crackdown. At the very least you would think they would jam the cell signals so they could not use twitter & the like to keep it spreading.
Our NG is called the TA ( Teritorial army) and most of em are chasing muslims around the mountains at the moment, but also its just part of British culture that we dont deploy the troops on the streets cept in natural disaster, ( or hunting rampaging Scots asnd Irishmen):D:

Just as you wonderful Texicans tend not to shoot ******* or deploy Seal teams along the rio grande we tend not to deploy damn expensive professional troops to do police work. Though if this continues who knows.
 

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Our NG is called the TA ( Teritorial army) and most of em are chasing muslims around the mountains at the moment, but also its just part of British culture that we dont deploy the troops on the streets cept in natural disaster, ( or hunting rampaging Scots asnd Irishmen):D:

Just as you wonderful Texicans tend not to shoot ******* or deploy Seal teams along the rio grande we tend not to deploy damn expensive professional troops to do police work. Though if this continues who knows.
Belive me when I tell you that if we were truly Texicans not Americans we would deploy our troops along the boarder. In Texas we have the castle doctrine and the death penalty. The last I read (can't find my link right now) over 50% of the population is armed and over 20% have three or more guns. The last Texan boarder agents who shot (did not kill) a drug smuggler were charged by the Feds with attempted murder and sent to prison. The Feds are what keeps Texas involved in the Cartel issue. Just like you seem to feel constrained by your central government we are so with ours.
 

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If only it were so and we were Texicans again instead of belonging to the US but, that's another issue. :D:

So do yall have a national gaurd or is that only a US thing?
What you are seeing is socialism,people being told the government can no longer take care of them,a government that tried to social engineer society,this includes global warming,making energy cost so high people cannot afford it.The new government told people they could no longer afford any of it.

Another lesson in socialism,just like the USSR.
 
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