I have a long-standing love/hate relationship with ALICE. I packed one for a lot of years.Is the ALICE system frame really that bad? Can some old Devil Dogs (or soldiers) from the days of ALICE tell me their thoughts and some of the pros/cons on it?
I figure if it was good enough for Chesty, it's good enough for me...(figuratively speaking).
Individual Load Bearing Equipment..sorry for being ignorant but what is a "ILBE" pack?
That's like comparing a V6 Firebird to a Mustang GT.step 1. Buy an Alice pack. Load it with 50 pounds, wear it on a 20 mile trek.
step 2. Buy a high end pack (or just one over 100 bucks and of decent quality) of the same volume, internal frame. Load it with 50 pounds, wear it on a 20 mile trek.
step 3. After your testing of the packs, proceed to throw the Alice pack in the garbage. You now know that the Alice pack is a worthless piece of crap for serious backpacking / hiking.
HOWEVER...... If you are just going to use the Alice as a walk in, walk out (less than 5 mile) camping trip, save yourself some money and stick with it. If you are planning to use the Alice pack as a BOB, go for it. Once again, save yourself some money. Do not, however, use the Alice pack as an INCH bag.
You are one of those Hellcat guys right?That's like comparing a V6 Firebird to a Mustang GT.
Drop a nice crate 350 in the Firebird then compare them.
What you're doing is apples to oranges.
Take an ALICE Pack with $80 in upgrades "then" compare them and
compare them over half a century and let's see which will be standing.
I am in no way doom & glooming new stuff just because it's new,
but to shoot down a 40 year old $20 pack while comparing it to a $100
plus 2012 pack is unfair is like comparing two sticks of wood to a lighter.
But you know what, now that you mention it, there should be some
comparison of an upgraded ALICE to a brand new $100. backpack.