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Greetings,

I planted 2 pears trees and 6 apples tress with one of them beeing a pollinator.

The year I planted them, I got a few pears. No apples.

This year is the second year and only 2 apples appeared.

How long does it take to get fruits? Is it normal nothing appeared? All the trees had flowers.

Must I put some special fertilizer? I kept the trees well watered.

I am in Georgia.

Thank you
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I saw at one of the big boxes trees (Home Depot) that are Malus Apple trees. I tried to find information about those but can't find nothing. Anyone knows about those? Or Better, a place close to Augusta GA where they have Apple trees like Gala or a variety close to it?

Thank you
There are a bunch of different apple types in the Malus family like Malus Pumila, Malus Domestica, etc. Some of them are even crab apples. Without knowing which one it is, you don't know what you're getting. It should have listed it's variety. Maybe the tag was missing? You might call their garden department and ask which variety it is. Then you'll be able to look up information on it.
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Greetings,

Bees are good. But we do have problems it seems. Just talked with a guy at the local nursery and he said one of his customers lost 5 bees hive this summer on 20.
Several years ago, I got 5 apples trees, 3 varieties. They don't produce either. One thing I didn't know about was the neighbor's cedar tree was going to play havoc on my apple trees. Do you have a cedar tree close by?
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Greetings,

I called and they said it is a Malus domestic. Is it good for Georgia? Is it an Apple like McIntosh or Spartan?
Also, our polenizator are Ein Shemmer and Golden Delicious. Is it good too for Georgia?

Thank you
Well, if you have the acreage, fruit trees and bushes are a great idea. I always thougth I would like 2 early apple, 2 pear, 2 cherry, 2 apricot, and 2 late apple. In georgia, you really need a couple of peach as well. Maybe a mulberry tree or two, and of course, any nut trees that you can grow.

also, use black and red raspberries as a perimeter deterent.

Gives you food most of the year.
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Greetings,

Follow up

We already have a few gala. One Ein Shemmer and one Golden Delicious for pollination.

I found a nursery in Northern GA and they proposed me those trees:
Enterprise-2 year,
Freedom-1 year,
June Red- 1year,
Mollies Del-1 year,
Red Free-1 year.

Which one will do you think will work best for Augusta, GA?
Which one will make the best apple pies? :D:
If none works best for the pollinator I have, please let me know. I'll simply plant a crab apple tree...:thumb:

Thank you
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I planted 19 fruit trees since buying our house. They had loads of blossoms in the spring but my oldest tree was only three. I pinched blossoms on them until there were only three left on the heavy fruited trees. If I had not my little trees would have broken. Although you didn't get many blooms you shouldn't worry about fruit until the tree branches are big enough to support them.

I keep my bee hives 200 yards from my orchard. They will pollenate but they have nothing to do with how many flowers are on the tree. You need to water and feed the trees to encourage blossoms.

As for what pollenates what you can google that and maybe find an answer.
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I spent a little time looking on the internet and it seems your area may be getting close to where some apples may not get enough chill hours (depending on how warm the winter may be). Your area is 7b, 8a for winter hardiness so, in that respect most apple trees are OK.

I've included a few links on apple trees, cross pollination and the like;
http://www.sandybarnursery.com/choosing-fruit-trees.htm
http://ucce.ucdavis.edu/files/filelibrary/5764/33384.pdf
http://www.spokane-county.wsu.edu/s...Sheets/C105 Pollination of Fruit Trees 05.pdf
http://pubsadmin.caes.uga.edu/files/pdf/C 740_5.PDF
http://weather.nmsu.edu/nmcrops/trees/apples/coldhard_dorm/cold-hardiness.htm

Just a couple of questions since I have no idea about most of the varieties you listed. Did you explain to the nursery where you live? The difference between northern and central Georgia could have an effect on what grows fruit. The nursery should have a better idea of what suits your purposes then many of us here.

Besides the macro climate there also the micro climate of your area. As an example, I live on the western side of the Delaware River and the ground slopes towards the river. So with the 'hill' west of me I'm fairly well protected from the cold winter winds. Now on the other side of the river it gets much more snow, picking up those 'lake effect' snows from the air being warmer over the river. But it's actually warmer on that side of the river, picking up some heat from the warm water (compared to the cold ground). Also my land is mostly heavy clay, while the other side of the river is sandy loam. It's also noticeable during the spring and summer that the other side of the river gets more rain and thunderstorms, just because of the air mass being a different temperature on the river. So, although the distance between these two places is less then a mile, and visible to each other, the climates are distinctly different.

There's two things of concern with many fruit trees. Plant hardiness and chill hours. The tree has to be able to handle the winters without freezing to death as well as have a minimum amount of chill hours for flowering to occur.

The biggest thing about pollinators is that they flower at the same time. Some are early, others late and they may not be flowering at the same time. Even then there's no guarantee that they'll actually produce fruit every year.

I've got one multi grafted apple tree, with 5 different kinds of apples on it and I've yet to get all 5 varieties, though they all seem to be flowering. This is one of my oldest fruit trees at 8-9 years old. Most years I get two to three varieties but never all 5. Last year I thought I'd get all 5 but alas the Red Delicious still hasn't produced a single apple.

Be aware that some trees just take longer to produce. I've got several pear, peach and plum trees and they started producing fruit at a much earlier age then the apple trees.
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I think I answered this before in a similar thread- lower chill hours in Southern Georgia.

We've been on the land over a decade here. We started out with a bunch of varieties that did not produce here- Red Delicious, etc. Luckily we caught the problem early on.

A local nurseryman showed us 4 apples that will PRODUCE, not just 'grow' in this area. Ein Schmier, Golden Dorsett, Granny Smith and Anna.

We put in those 4 varieties and never had another problem.

I'm about 2 hours from Augusta (SW). Conditions aren't that different.

We have one of the orchards about 20 feet over from a big stand of pines. Everyone said "those won't grow there", "the pines will kill them", etc. That was about 9 years ago and that orchard is doing great. If anything the pines help create a micro climate effect right there.

Bees will help with your pollination, no doubts there. But they can be a PITA to work with.

www.homesteadingandsurvival.com

You'll find a bunch of free videos on both subjects as well as other homesteading and survival topics.

Lowdown3
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So did I screw up by planting only one each, of assorted fruit trees? I feel pretty stupid if I did. I have two apple trees but they are almost 2 acres apart. The rest I have only one tree each. Pretty limited non-shaded space and most of what I do have has walnut trees. I have heard these kill competing trees close by with a toxin in the soil.
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Greetings,

I called and they said it is a Malus domestic. Is it good for Georgia? Is it an Apple like McIntosh or Spartan?
Also, our polenizator are Ein Shemmer and Golden Delicious. Is it good too for Georgia?

Thank you
I'd take it to mean that it's a crab apple tree. Some are better eating then others but most are fairly tart.
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So did I screw up by planting only one each, of assorted fruit trees? I feel pretty stupid if I did. I have two apple trees but they are almost 2 acres apart. The rest I have only one tree each. Pretty limited non-shaded space and most of what I do have has walnut trees. I have heard these kill competing trees close by with a toxin in the soil.
They need to be fairly close, far apart and the chances of pollinating go way down. Some fruit trees are self pollinating, apples are not one of them, for the most part. For each fruit tree the requirements for pollination are different.

Walnut trees do have a toxin but it doesn't seem to effect all things equally. I've got them growing around mature fir, spruce and cedar and it hasn't killed them. They might be killing a couple rose bushes though.

One other thing, for apple trees is being near Cedar trees. There's something called cedar apple rust that can hurt the leaves of the apple tree.(rust spots). Nothing that can't be managed though.
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I planted an apple tree this year. Red Delicious. Fed it, watered it, kept the deer from eating the leaves off it... A month ago it just toppled over. Gophers had eaten the roots back all the way to the trunk. Next year I'm planting more trees and killing any gopher who comes within 100 yards. :mad:
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