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I have included a link explaining how Procter & Gamble is marketing disposable diapers in China.

The first paragraph of the article please read the entire article and what I wrote before Replying to this post.

http://www.allvoices.com/contribute...dangku-bottoms-a-procter-gamble-chinese-story Sniped URL http://snipurl.com/vaspq

When Procter & Gamble first launched its branded diapers, Pampers in China - way back in 1998 - Chinese mothers were known to drape their babies in cloth diapers, if they used one that is. Many of them would use none as the more user-friendly kaidangkus, the colorful open-crotch pants worn front-side backwards that facilitated an as-easy-as-it-comes, just-squat-and-relieve regimen was a traditional choice for their kids right from a tender age of six months.

My thoughts on this.

Did P&G also tell those same parents that there children will grow up in a world littered with disposable diapers the will fill up the landfills with something that will never go away?

With about 20,000,000,000 disposable diapers that are used in the U.S. every year by the time a newborn to day is 30 years old there will be over 600,000,000,000 in the U.S.A. landfills. At an average weight of one half bound each there will be 150,000,000 tones of untreated human waste in the U.S.A. landfills.

China has about 1,179,196,000 people, if sales reach the level that they are in the U.S.A. in the 30 years following they will have about 10,200,000,000,000 used disposable diapers in there landfills and 2,550,000,000 tones of untreated human waste in China’s landfills. In the 500 years that it is said it takes for a disposable diaper to break down in a land fill will amount to 170,000,000,000,000 disposable diapers.

How many are going to end up being dumped in our worlds oceans?
How can this be anything but an environmental disaster waiting to happen?
Is it right that a company can sacrifice the future of our world for the sake of profits?
 

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I'll probably get numerous ugly remarks about this, but I adopted my daughter from China 2 years ago. Pampers are there, IF you know to look for them. They are not by any means "widespread" even in the large cities. We had to go to special Western Stores to find them, and this was Dec 2007. MOST Chinese people use the open crotch for small children. Just like the majority of Chinese adults use a "squatty potty" or basically, a porcelain hole in the floor. They think it's more sanitary than a seat.
What you also don't understand is that the a lot of the population of China is poor. Poor beyond a way you could possibly understand in America. Buying things like Diapers is RIDICULOUS if you only make $488 a year. My daughter's orphanage would put a couple cloths between the kids legs and like, tie it on around the waist with like a bungee cord. And a lot of time during the day all the infants that could sit up were put in these small chairs. Like a high chair, but lower to the ground. Underneath them would be a bowl to collect the ah...output. They would be all bundled up in like 6 layers of clothes, but their legs would be held apart so they could go without messing up their clothes. That is common in orphanages, but not in regular life. Orphanages are understaffed, so they use this to help. (i'm not agreeing with this method by any means, I'm just explaining what/why they do this)

What I'm trying to say is that it will be a LONG time before the cultural changes happen that make the average Chinese person go out and buy diapers on the mass scale as the do in the US. I can see that even with wealthier families, they would only buy them for night time sleeping, not all day every day the way we do here.

I also, for the record, bought Pampers while I was in China. They weren't like diapers here. They were like, pull ups but...softer. It was like putting on really thick underwear. Kinda strange, but they worked just fine.
 

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It has nothing to do with prepping. His(her?) point was that if China started using disposable diapers, they would create giant massive landfill waste, and destroy the planet: Thus a manmade disaster.

At least, that is what I took from it.
 

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It is not just diapers and not just China. How long can we keep doing this to our planet and still have a place to live? I am not a tree hugger but I believe it is not a good idea to crap in ones own nest. Reduce, reuse and recycle are good practices to day and will be more so in the PAW. What is or will be the impact of disposable diapers on the world? The U.S. uses about 20,000,000,000 a year what is the number world wide? If disposable diapers account for 2% of the world’s solid waste {it is a little over 2% in the U.S.} this has to add to accumulative effect on the world. What will the world be like in 500 years, will our oceans be filled to over flowing with trash? Will our land be so full of our castoffs that we will no longer be able to feed our selves? As a world we have to stop crapping in our nest. We have to take reduce, reuse and recycle to hart before our grandchildren are knee deep in our trash.
 

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They uped the number sold in the U.S.A. to 35,000,000,000, that comes to 300 a year for every man, woman and child in the U.S. The 35 b does not include training pants or bed wetting pants the only numbers i can find in this hints at 73,000,000,000 sold each year. If so that makes for a total of 108,000,000,000 land filled each year or about 27,000,000 tones. About 850 for each of us each year.

They are actively marking to older children with the message that it is a good thing to stay in diapers, see video that is not aimed at parents, this is targeting children.
There is the add they on tv pushing them for 6 year old's. Take not of the missing front tooth, cartwheels and language skills that is not a toddler.
 

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I'm not worried about it. We can already mine landfills and produce pure carbon and diesel fuel. Not really cost effective right now although it's done but it will be at some point. Worst case is that the land is fertile in 500 years.
 

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Here's a marvel idea. Why doesn't everybody in the world stop having babies, the Earths population has already reached max capacity and can't handle any more. How big does the population have to get before it effects the environment? I believe we have already reached if not crossed that line already!
 

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OP what do you think about incontinent disabled and seniors? They need diapers as well and any caregiver who can afford it will be buying them.

ALSO as the guy who had actually BEEN THERE said, most Chinese are far too poor to afford diapers that is a luxury item.

OP "I'm not a tree hugger" then cue 3 pages of tree-hugger ranting.
 

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11 years. This might be a record for necroing a thread.
 
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And the problem has gotten worse not better. In that 11 years about 275,000,000,000 hove gone in the landfill, they are never going away. That is 137,500,000 tons that did not need to be there.
 

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If concerned over humans murdering Gaia.....



Some see a problem, many see an opportunity. These units are starting to show up in hospitals for disposal of diapers generated in the facility.


As for China, the country generates so much massive amounts of pollution - of all kinds - used diapers are a drop in the ... well, you know.
 

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I have included a link explaining how Procter & Gamble is marketing disposable diapers in China.

The first paragraph of the article please read the entire article and what I wrote before Replying to this post.

http://www.allvoices.com/contribute...dangku-bottoms-a-procter-gamble-chinese-story Sniped URL http://snipurl.com/vaspq

When Procter & Gamble first launched its branded diapers, Pampers in China - way back in 1998 - Chinese mothers were known to drape their babies in cloth diapers, if they used one that is. Many of them would use none as the more user-friendly kaidangkus, the colorful open-crotch pants worn front-side backwards that facilitated an as-easy-as-it-comes, just-squat-and-relieve regimen was a traditional choice for their kids right from a tender age of six months.

My thoughts on this.

Did P&G also tell those same parents that there children will grow up in a world littered with disposable diapers the will fill up the landfills with something that will never go away?

With about 20,000,000,000 disposable diapers that are used in the U.S. every year by the time a newborn to day is 30 years old there will be over 600,000,000,000 in the U.S.A. landfills. At an average weight of one half bound each there will be 150,000,000 tones of untreated human waste in the U.S.A. landfills.

China has about 1,179,196,000 people, if sales reach the level that they are in the U.S.A. in the 30 years following they will have about 10,200,000,000,000 used disposable diapers in there landfills and 2,550,000,000 tones of untreated human waste in China’s landfills. In the 500 years that it is said it takes for a disposable diaper to break down in a land fill will amount to 170,000,000,000,000 disposable diapers.

How many are going to end up being dumped in our worlds oceans?
How can this be anything but an environmental disaster waiting to happen?
Is it right that a company can sacrifice the future of our world for the sake of profits?
Who ever told you life is fair and anyone cares about what they do if it's not crapping at their door. You can add till you're blue all the garbage and pollution and big corporate ripoffs....but why?
Tell me a way to stop it?
I'm not being antagonistic toward you at all. I , like you, am outraged by this but between not being even able to vote confidently, to having a socialist gvmt to all the injustice. It builds everyday.
As for me, I'm starting to plant cold crops and throw my phone away
 
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